Legend of the Galactic Heroes showed everyone how to have a coup in a democratic society.
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Legend of the Galactic Heroes showed everyone how to have a coup in a democratic society.
Surely it could! Unless.......
Ah, didn't realize it said median. I just assumed mean.
e; well the OP does say average which can definitely be skewed depending on the sample. I can't see the full article at work though.
We've gone from a working class society that is able to work harder, show initial and be rewarded for it to a working class society that are forced to work with a "just happy to be here mentality".
And you can't fight a system when almost half of the lower and middle class embraces that mentality out of sheer ignorance and a misguided belief that one day they'll be the ones to rise above it all.
And you can't fight a system when almost half of the lower and middle class embraces that mentality out of sheer ignorance and a misguided belief that one day they'll be the ones to rise above it all.
Slayer-33
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Well that de-escalated quickly
My parents to a tee.
Funny thing is they make me feel like a loser because my brother makes ton, and I make nothing just like them.
[citation needed]
People do these things. It's obvious there's outrage out there. The issue is that those politicians that stand up for workers' rights don't even get on the ballot, usually. In order to survive a primary, you need dollars, and that means selling out. The problem with our democracy is multi faceted, but it starts with our primary selection system that favors money.
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You can be a corporation. Or a corporation can be you. I forget how that stuff works.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
It doesn't help that the country still goes all-in to market itself, to itself, as the world leader in everything. Best society on earth, incomparable standard of living, and literally blessed by God with the American lifestyle.
At this point it's so bad that I suspect for many it's not even that they think they personally are going to get rich. Many folks have accepted their lot, and simply don't believe it's possible for anything to be different. This is as good as it's going to get.
The growing desperation of the lower classes has been leveraged to make them terrified of someone taking away what little they've got left.
Well, when you're being falsely equivalent, no.
shadowsdarknes
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Eventually we'll have to rebel
Join the libertarian movement today and get this ball rolling!
Sure. Let's let corporations act without rules. I'm sure we will be fine.
The Koch brothers are the ultimate libertarians. And they are worth 40+ billion dollars and actively seek deregulatory policies.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Shocker.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The issue is that the middle class has been pitted against the lower class. Never underestimate people's willingness to undermine their own self-interest.
When I talk to people, all I hear about are how much people rely on welfare, how teachers make too much, how doctors make too much, etc. I rarely ever hear from them about bankers or executives, and when I do mention it, they look at me with this dumbfounded look like they never thought of that.
When I talk to people, all I hear about are how much people rely on welfare, how teachers make too much, how doctors make too much, etc. I rarely ever hear from them about bankers or executives, and when I do mention it, they look at me with this dumbfounded look like they never thought of that.
I'm going to point out an obvious argument to your chain of thought: I think a lot of companies would rather kick older, more expensive workers to the curb and employ younger, cheaper workers.
I would, but I'm afraid I'd get separation anxiety once I get split into subsidiaries ;_;
Also who wants to live in Delaware?
CornBurrito
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The wealthy simply work that much harder*
*harder defined in such a way to make my argument sound, but not in the way a normal human would define it
Also no sympathy. We wouldn't have poor people if everyone became an engineer or computer scientist.
*harder defined in such a way to make my argument sound, but not in the way a normal human would define it
Also no sympathy. We wouldn't have poor people if everyone became an engineer or computer scientist.
I just LOOOVVEEE how welfare and food stamps are the 2 most popular billet points when bringing up wasteful government spending. As if eliminating fraud in those 2 areas would balance the budget and give every citizen a $600 tax rebate.
Sub_Level
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We all gotta pay our dividends sometimes. Man up.
Punchy4486
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=862960
The exact number might be a bit skewed, but we had a thread on it recently.
JJDinomite
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No no no you got it all wrong you are either dumpster diving for McDonald's crumbs or living in a multi-billion dollar house on Guam. Don't you know anything about the 99% and 1%?
And these layoffs happen, but unless those positions don't need to be refilled it can be more expensive to bring in new folks. Lots of training will need to occur, and then these guys can potentially hop to a more lucrative position as their training finishes and they're more employable by other companies. Hence, there's no harm in holding on to the older guys w/ specialized knowledge; if their position is easily replaceable, well, they better hope they're in some sort of government-run institution or they're gonna be on the chopping block sooner or later.
This is funny, where do some of you get that idea? He hasn't even showed the least aspect of a true socialist leader...
But if that is say in a sarcastic manner, my bad.
I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic. Obama is a capitalist, clearly.
Hah yep, just some internet sarcasm. The Obama=worst socialist has been a running joke since he first stepped into office amid all the cries from the right that he was Marx reincarnated.
Uncle_Classy
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Huh, wonder if they'll still feel the same way when they have 80k in student debt and are working 40+ hours a week at McDonald's.
Jason's Ultimatum
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You're on GAF. You're already rich.
Firstly, rebel against the bourgeoisie.
Secondly, America is not a democratic society.
Randolph Freelander
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Allow me to translate from internet to english
"If this guy is a socialist, as a loud portion of the right claims he is, he's pretty bad at it."
The way they feel has nothing to do with reality. It's nonsense that they've been indoctrinated into by both sides of the political spectrum in this country.
gutter_trash
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the socialist moniker is thrown too loosely.
Obama the Democrat is more Right Wing than Canada's Conservative Prime Minister; Stephen Harper.
Obama the Democrat is more Right Wing than Canada's Conservative Prime Minister; Stephen Harper.
Rhomega Beta
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But these aren't supposed to be forever jobs!
Angelus Errare
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It's going to trickle down any moment now guys, just wait for it!
Im not sure about that, but he's definitely more right wing than Harper thinks he can get away with being, anyways.
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Porn retail doesn't pay well?
PEACE.This market of employable skills is only going to get smaller, because while this is happening, we are at great risk for our age of technology to evolve to significant levels of automation, and in turn technological unemployment. All of those people upset about outsourced jobs seldom realized that was step one. The next is to replace those types of jobs with machines. This type of practice risks many, many industries, as well it being something that has happened now and will continue to happen in the future.
Besides that looming tsunami, we have replaced many, many types of jobs with service jobs. It's not that one can simply choose to do something else, but that there may not be any other option but to take these sorts of jobs, which of course pay less for various reasons. The high end and the low end are in for a rude thrashing with what we have here.
It is hard for one to have a job that requires employable skills when automation, a very large population, overqualification due to those things, and an influx of low-end jobs replacing many in the middle are all creating a funky sort of muck. We've made a mess, and if it continues as it very likely will continue, it will lead to significant economic boo boos, perhaps a depression or full on collapse.
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