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Predict the Wii U's 2015 (2nd) Best Seller

Oh I'm going to buy it. Looks great!
But do you know how much money it takes to launch a new Ip at a #1 position? Do you really think Nintendo of all companies is going to spend that kind of cash, particularly at this environment? That's just too risky for an ROI driven company.

Also it doesn't have Mario in the title! Cmon.
You know better :)

When Donkey Kong is struggling to hit 400k in a year, you know their budget is going Zelda and mario.

Wait, leaks, this isn't the NPD thread. ;)
Man, that's bad.


To answer my own question, maybe Mario Party. Wii U Party may have dented that though.
 
Mario Party 10. If not that one, then Splatoon

Good lord, I am getting almost every single one of these games. My wallet!
 
I expect Zelda to be one of the definitive Wii U titles in 2015, but I certainly don't expect it to sell the best.

As a rabid fan that's been voraciously hungering for a new StarFox game, I hope StarFox U gets its due!
 
I'm pretty sure Mario Party 10 will sell better than Zelda.

Yoshi's Wooly World also has the potentialto sell better than Zelda.

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And MP10 would have to get extremely lucky. I really don't see a lot of these games breaking 1 million, which Zelda will do.
 
Oh I'm going to buy it. Looks great!
But do you know how much money it takes to launch a new Ip at a #1 position? Do you really think Nintendo of all companies is going to spend that kind of cash, particularly at this environment? That's just too risky for an ROI driven company.

Also it doesn't have Mario in the title! Cmon.
You know better :)

When Donkey Kong is struggling to hit 400k in a year, you know their budget is going Zelda and mario.

Donkey Kong's almost at 800k.
 
what's up with the "Zelda isn't that big outside of message boards, that's why I'm picking Splatoon" posts

I don't expect Mario Party 10 to do better than the Gamecube ones, though it might break a million (then again who knows, it could pull a DK and just flop)

Source?
And both are you are talking WW right?

John Harker is definitely talking about US only
 
3. Zelda
2. Splatoon
1. Mario Party 10 bundle

Splatoon opens up way more younger marketing potential than Zelda could hope for. It's practically screaming for round the clock Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network commercials.
 
Isn't Mario vs Donkey Kong just going to be another eShop title with NST's tired artstyle again? I don't see that getting any attention whatsoever.

I hope Splatoon really takes off, it looks insanely fun.
 
Not sure if it's thread worthy, but there's been a fair amount of Prediction threads lately, so why not.

Outside of Zelda, there's been a lot of speculation about the performance of Wii U titles next year. A lot people think some games will bomb, and some people think those same games will do great. There's no real precedent (considering the U's situation) to by on some of these titles.

Unless something crazy happens, Zelda will be first. But after that, it gets murky...


-Notable Candidates (Let me know if I missed anything significant)
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Yoshi's Woolly World
Mario Party 10
Mario Maker
Mario vs DK
Star Fox
Splatoon

Project Cars lol
Zelda U
(EDIT: Since Zelda isn't guaranteed, it's an option too.)
So, what do you think? Provide an explanation if you'd like.
(You can list them in the order you think they'll sell too)
I want it to be Xenoblade but it's going to be Mario Party 10 or Mario Maker
 
I'm surprised people seem so confident about Splatoon. Game seems like it could easily end up bombing.

-New IP with no name/franchise recognition
-Size of market for family-friendly cartoon multiplayer FPS on WiiU is unknown
-Online multiplayer experience on a Nintendo console doesn't inspire great confidence
-Name and character design will make it look like a licensed Nickelodeon shovelware game to Joe Sixpack looking at the box at Walmart

Nintendo is going to have to market the hell out of it.
 
3. Zelda
2. Splatoon
1. Mario Party 10 bundle

Splatoon opens up way more younger marketing potential than Zelda could hope for. It's practically screaming for round the clock Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network commercials.

Would Nintendo spend that in the West on a new and unproven IP?
 
Star Fox will sell poorly, but it may be a small-scale title so the sales may be in line with what Nintendo expected.

Mario Party 10 seems like the least interesting Wii U title for 2015, but it may end up being the 2nd best seller. That ,or possibly Animal Crossing, but it depends on how supportive Japan is of it.

Splatoon will probably have decent sales but it won't be the hit Nintendo and gamers hope it will be.

Xenoblade X will under perform. I think people are overestimating its appeal and Japan will likely not show much support to it just as it did with the original Xenoblade.

Kirby's Rainbow Curse may not be a good seller at first , but it will probably do alright in the long run, especially if Japan ends up supporting it as much as they did with the original Canvas Curse game.

Mario Maker will probably sell better than expected due to the interest in its level editor mode and various art styles. If it were just another New SMB, then I think there wouldn't be much interest in it due to franchise fatigue.

Yoshi's Yarn, I think will outsell Kirby's Rainbow Curse.
 
Heart: Splatoon

Head: Pokken Tournament


This is a bit premature because it most likely still relies on Tekken mechanics and that game didn't sell well.

With that out of the way Smash came out so any hold out fighting game players have the system. In addition Pokemon as a franchise is more popular than any of these other games including Mario Party. Namco would have to fuck up real world in execution to not print money with this.

That said for the sake of Nintendo not getting stuck in a rut and sell this console beyond people interested in their staple games I hope Splatoon convinces a lot of people the rest of the Wii U library is good enough to not ignore it.
 
Source?
And both are you are talking WW right?

I hope we both are talking worldwide :D

DKC:TF sold 130 k during launch week in USA (wikipedia) and 36 k in Japan (mediacreate). Combined with Europe (where it was no. 1 in France and charted everywhere), sales were definitely over 200k and closer to 250k. Beyond that, VGC is the only good estimate- they generally undertack nintendo games slightly, with SM3DW and MK8 both being under how much they've already sold. VGC currently has it at 760k, so it's fair to assume the game's close to that. It's certainly far above 400k.

EDIT: I see that we're not supposed to use VGC on GAF. Also, I simply used it to give a more reasonable estimate than what 400k speculation provides. I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to.
 
I hope we both are talking worldwide :D

DKC:TF sold 130 k during launch week in USA (wikipedia) and 36 k in Japan (mediacreate). Combined with Europe (where it was no. 1 in France and charted everywhere), sales were definitely over 200k and closer to 250k. Beyond that, VGC is the only good estimate- they generally undertack nintendo games slightly, with SM3DW and MK8 both being under how much they've already sold. VGC currently has it at 760k, so it's fair to assume the game's close to that. It's certainly far above 400k.

Erase this before Aqua sees youuuuuuuuuuuuu

She gun kill you in your sleep child.
 
Heart: Splatoon

Head: Pokken Tournament


This is a bit premature because it most likely still relies on Tekken mechanics and that game didn't sell well.

With that out of the way Smash came out so any hold out fighting game players have the system. In addition Pokemon as a franchise is more popular than any of these other games including Mario Party. Namco would have to fuck up real world in execution to not print money with this.

That said for the sake of Nintendo not getting stuck in a rut and sell this console beyond people interested in their staple games I hope Splatoon convinces a lot of people the rest of the Wii U library is good enough to not ignore it.

There's no confirmation that a wii u port for pokken is coming in 2015.
 
I hope we both are talking worldwide :D

DKC:TF sold 130 k during launch week in USA (wikipedia) and 36 k in Japan (mediacreate). Combined with Europe (where it was no. 1 in France and charted everywhere), sales were definitely over 200k and closer to 250k. Beyond that, VGC is the only good estimate- they generally undertack nintendo games slightly, with SM3DW and MK8 both being under how much they've already sold. VGC currently has it at 760k, so it's fair to assume the game's close to that. It's certainly far above 400k.

John was talking US actually. So it's over 400K

And don't use chartzzz...
 
Heart: Splatoon

Head: Pokken Tournament

Pokkén is a 2016 game for the Wii U I'm pretty sure.


I hope we both are talking worldwide :D

DKC:TF sold 130 k during launch week in USA (wikipedia) and 36 k in Japan (mediacreate). Combined with Europe (where it was no. 1 in France and charted everywhere), sales were definitely over 200k and closer to 250k. Beyond that, VGC is the only good estimate- they generally undertack nintendo games slightly, with SM3DW and MK8 both being under how much they've already sold. VGC currently has it at 760k, so it's fair to assume the game's close to that. It's certainly far above 400k.

you've committed grave errors, sir
 
Mario Party 10 won't outsell Zelda. This isn't the Wii. The Wii U primarily consists of Nintendo fans who are far more likely to buy Zelda.
 
I hope we both are talking worldwide :D

DKC:TF sold 130 k during launch week in USA (wikipedia) and 36 k in Japan (mediacreate). Combined with Europe (where it was no. 1 in France and charted everywhere), sales were definitely over 200k and closer to 250k. Beyond that, VGC is the only good estimate- they generally undertack nintendo games slightly, with SM3DW and MK8 both being under how much they've already sold. VGC currently has it at 760k, so it's fair to assume the game's close to that. It's certainly far above 400k.
Did you just use VGC data on neogaf?

RIP

The Aquamarine is coming.....
 
3. Zelda
2. Splatoon
1. Mario Party 10 bundle

Splatoon opens up way more younger marketing potential than Zelda could hope for. It's practically screaming for round the clock Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network commercials.
I don't think the people who watch Nickelodeon have Wii Us tbh.


Star Fox is gonna flop harder than DK guys.
 
look up the best selling games on any nintendo console, buddy

EDIT: he quoted the wrong person initially so disregard this

Zelda games are 3-6 million sellers.

That's Final Fantasy/ Tomb raider levels

I don't think the people who watch Nickelodeon have Wii Us tbh.


Star Fox is gonna flop harder than DK guys.

How could starfox flop? People watched Guardians of the Galaxy they're willing to do anything lol

Star Fox will sell poorly, but it may be a small-scale title so the sales may be in line with what Nintendo expected.

Mario Party 10 seems like the least interesting Wii U title for 2015, but it may end up being the 2nd best seller. That ,or possibly Animal Crossing, but it depends on how supportive Japan is of it.

Splatoon will probably have decent sales but it won't be the hit Nintendo and gamers hope it will be.

Xenoblade X will under perform. I think people are overestimating its appeal and Japan will likely not show much support to it just as it did with the original Xenoblade.

Kirby's Rainbow Curse may not be a good seller at first , but it will probably do alright in the long run, especially if Japan ends up supporting it as much as they did with the original Canvas Curse game.

Mario Maker will probably sell better than expected due to the interest in its level editor mode and various art styles. If it were just another New SMB, then I think there wouldn't be much interest in it due to franchise fatigue.

Yoshi's Yarn, I think will outsell Kirby's Rainbow Curse.

Kirby games sell like 800k alone in japan.

Star Fox will sell poorly, but it may be a small-scale title so the sales may be in line with what Nintendo expected.

Mario Party 10 seems like the least interesting Wii U title for 2015, but it may end up being the 2nd best seller. That ,or possibly Animal Crossing, but it depends on how supportive Japan is of it.

Splatoon will probably have decent sales but it won't be the hit Nintendo and gamers hope it will be.

Xenoblade X will under perform. I think people are overestimating its appeal and Japan will likely not show much support to it just as it did with the original Xenoblade.

Kirby's Rainbow Curse may not be a good seller at first , but it will probably do alright in the long run, especially if Japan ends up supporting it as much as they did with the original Canvas Curse game.

Mario Maker will probably sell better than expected due to the interest in its level editor mode and various art styles. If it were just another New SMB, then I think there wouldn't be much interest in it due to franchise fatigue.

Yoshi's Yarn, I think will outsell Kirby's Rainbow Curse.

The fist xenoblade sold over 160k first week. And lol at a yoshi game outselling kirby.

I suggest you look up sales for older starfox games btw.
 
Did you just use VGC data on neogaf?

RIP

The Aquamarine is coming.....

Who's Aquamarine? And what did I do that's so wrong, and how can I fix it? Help :(

I also used data from more trusted sources, and simply used that site to show that 400k wasn't reasonable. It can't be worse than simply stating that the game has sold 400k without any evidence at all, can it?
 
Who's Aquamarine? And what did I do that's so wrong, and how can I fix it? Help :(

It can't be worse than simply stating that the game has sold 400k without any evidence at all, can it?
She's someone who has access to sales data and knows VGC is full of shit and hates it when people use their info to prove a point when it's false info.
 
Did you just use VGC data on neogaf?

RIP

The Aquamarine is coming.....

Nah I'll be nice.

Who's Aquamarine? And what did I do that's so wrong, and how can I fix it? Help :(

I also used data from more trusted sources, and simply used that site to show that 400k wasn't reasonable. It can't be worse than simply stating that the game has sold 400k without any evidence at all, can it?

Hello. Welcome to GAF.

Sourcing VG Chartz for anything (even indirectly) is banned on GAF.
 
Harker is an insider.
And Vg Chartz basically makes their numbers up.
The banned site makes their numbers up about as much as pachter says something incorrect.

John Harker is also not an insider. He works in marketing so he knows some things but not really.


Triple Deluxe hasn't even reached 700k yet, how the hell is a Wii U game gonna reach 800k

Go back to the media create threads padowan. Triple deluxe is past 700k already.

Star Fox will sell poorly, but it may be a small-scale title so the sales may be in line with what Nintendo expected.

Mario Party 10 seems like the least interesting Wii U title for 2015, but it may end up being the 2nd best seller. That ,or possibly Animal Crossing, but it depends on how supportive Japan is of it.

Splatoon will probably have decent sales but it won't be the hit Nintendo and gamers hope it will be.

Xenoblade X will under perform. I think people are overestimating its appeal and Japan will likely not show much support to it just as it did with the original Xenoblade.

Kirby's Rainbow Curse may not be a good seller at first , but it will probably do alright in the long run, especially if Japan ends up supporting it as much as they did with the original Canvas Curse game.

Mario Maker will probably sell better than expected due to the interest in its level editor mode and various art styles. If it were just another New SMB, then I think there wouldn't be much interest in it due to franchise fatigue.

Yoshi's Yarn, I think will outsell Kirby's Rainbow Curse.

The fist xenoblade sold over 160k first week. And lol at a yoshi game outselling kirby.

I suggest you look up sales for older starfox games btw.
 
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;143095774 said:
The banned site makes their numbers up about as much as pachter says something incorrect.
The difference is that Pachter is openly just guessing for fun (it's not his job as GAF seems to think). VGChartzzz gives the impression of factual numbers.
 
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;143095774 said:
The banned site makes their numbers up about as much as pachter says something incorrect.

John Harker is also not an insider. He works in marketing so he knows some things but not really.

Everything John Harker has ever said about NPD sales is 100% accurate.
 
I hope we both are talking worldwide :D

DKC:TF sold 130 k during launch week in USA (wikipedia) and 36 k in Japan (mediacreate). Combined with Europe (where it was no. 1 in France and charted everywhere), sales were definitely over 200k and closer to 250k. Beyond that, VGC is the only good estimate- they generally undertack nintendo games slightly, with SM3DW and MK8 both being under how much they've already sold. VGC currently has it at 760k, so it's fair to assume the game's close to that. It's certainly far above 400k.

EDIT: I see that we're not supposed to use VGC on GAF. Also, I simply used it to give a more reasonable estimate than what 400k speculation provides. I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to.

VGC doesn't track anything
 
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;143095774 said:
Go back to the media create threads padowan. Triple deluxe is past 700k already.

YOU should go back and check, here's the most recent number from any tracker (thank goodness for Dengeki showing top 50)

Dengeki Sales: Week 48, 2014 (Nov 24 - Nov 30)
48./41. [3DS] Kirby: Triple Deluxe (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} - 1.650 / 619.082 (+41%)
 
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