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Preventing Cable Company Fuckery a.k.a Net Nuetrality

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As usual, when it comes time for real action, no one cares. Once this all goes through, the voices will appear.
 
John Oliver is really on point with what he's talking about...but man, he really couldn't be less funny.
 
John Oliver is really on point with what he's talking about...but man, he really couldn't be less funny.
Couldn't disagree more. Some of his segments have really had me rolling.




.....I was skeptical about his show but only having to focus on one show a week, and being on HBO has really opened up him and his staff's ability to get in-depth on topics and laser focus on particular issues.

And with only one show a week the discussion sticks to the topic of that one show and isn't as easily forgotten. Whereas the daily show has 4 shows a week and countless topics(love the daily show don't get me wrong) that can overshadow, drown each other out or be missed entirely if you aren't an everyday viewer.
 
Yeah I don't get why people aren't angry about this.

Because people don't understand it. The fact that it often takes a 10 minute video in order to fully understand what it all means is why people aren't really paying attention to it. I asked my team last week if they were concerned and no one in the room knew what I was talking about. This was 10 people. Not one person had a clue what I was talking about.

I think the message needs to be simplified and made less vague. Every video I've seen had the general tone of "this is what COULD happen" which no one really cares about these days. We're too distracted for hypotheticals.

This video actually helped me understand all of this better even though it still falls into the same pitfalls I just mentioned.
 
Thanks for bumping this. Just tried to submit my comment, but comment submission seems to be broken. Saving it for later in a text doc.
 
Good to see that John Oliver has some of the same influence and public support that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have... crashing the FCC's website? Amazing!

https://twitter.com/FCC/status/473565753463959552
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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/03/john-oliver-fcc-website-net-neutrality

“We’re still experiencing technical difficulties with our comment system,” the FCC said on Twitter. “Thanks for your patience as we work to resolve the issues.”

The FCC told Variety that it was “unclear if the high volume was directly related to the John Oliver segment.”

More than 47,000 public comments have been filed on the proposal in the past thirty days. One comment published on Tuesday blasted "cable company fuckery," using Oliver's line. Another user cited a claim made by Oliver on the show: "It is embarrassing that Estonia has higher download speeds at lower prices than the USA."

One profanity-ridden post concluded with: "John Oliver told me to do this."
 
It's effectiveness is in the comments not the views since that was his call to action. They need to be pushing that more.

Baby steps. Hopefully the majority of those actually watched the whole video. I was originally going to link the video at the 10 minute mark so its directly to his call to action but since the FCC site has been a bitch these past couple of days i'd rather people become aware of this fuckery.

Thread title needs more eye catching language like "Cable Companies plan to cock-slap everyone while the government gives them the reach around!"

Something I thought about too. I figured 'Preventing Cable Company Fuckery' was good enough but I for one welcome this thread title change. lol
 
Baby steps. Hopefully the majority of those actually watched the whole video. I was originally going to link the video at the 10 minute mark so its directly to his call to action but since the FCC site has been a bitch these past couple of days i'd rather people become aware of this fuckery.



Something I thought about too. I figured 'Preventing Cable Company Fuckery' was good enough but I for one welcome this thread title change. lol

I can only assume most did because he didn't even flash the link until near the end of the 10 minute video.
 
SO glad this is being presented front and center to many people. I hope many more people watch John's segment. I'm trying to be as proactive as possible. If the FCC fails to change course and allow their "fast lane" BS to become law I will personally create a Super PAC focused on bribing local politicians for undoing the local monopoly laws and building out municipal broadband.

F***.THE.TELCOS.
 
If I remember the netflix comcast thread correctly, his explanation in this video of the reduced speeds is disingenuous. The speeds were lower because netflix was basically killing some company's connection to comcast's network. Other than that, it's good and cool to see it get attention.
 
Even on gaf it seems like people don't care. These net neutrality only ever seem to get 1 or 2 pages
Excellent doublespeak by Wheeler and Co has made it basically impossible for the layman to know what net neutrality even is. They see those words, get a one-second headache and dismiss the topic.
 
Excellent doublespeak by Wheeler and Co has made it basically impossible for the layman to know what net neutrality even is. They see those words, get a one-second headache and dismiss the topic.

Pretty much. I'm only now starting to understand what the hell people are talking about. And even now I only sort of care. It's all hypotheticals at this point. Even when I try and talk about it with people I get kind of bored.

It's not "real" enough yet. Unfortunately, most won't wake up until it's too late.
 
Pretty much. I'm only now starting to understand what the hell people are talking about. And even now I only sort of care. It's all hypotheticals at this point. Even when I try and talk about it with people I get kind of bored.

It's not "real" enough yet. Unfortunately, most won't wake up until it's too late.

The thing is it basically boils down to the telecoms want the ability to dictate what you get access to through controlling the speed at which you receive it.

It's legalized extortion being executed by a cartel-like oligarchy.

It's really not a difficult topic but somehow the most important current events topic on the internet is the one topic that hasnt been successfully broken down into more easily digestible talking points.
 
Read on reddit that is because, proxy and back end companies are slowing down all FCC related websites to show the people who work for the FCC what its like when net neutrality is no longer a thing.
Pretty smart.

what a stupid thing to do. The FCC won't give a shit their site is slow and it creates a frustration for people trying to leave their comments.
 
So the more I think about how much of a losing cause is the comments activism?

Basically how stacked is the deck right now at the FCC with lobbyist and telecom sympathizers? Clearly the head is of that I'll but is it across the board?

And frankly this may be one of the most infuriating things Obama has done domestically.
 
It's kinda sad that even though the John Oliver video has 900k views on YouTube, there are only 40k comments on the FCC site. I know that not everyone who watched the video lives in the U.S., but the number of comments should still be a lot higher than that.
 
It's kinda sad that even though the John Oliver video has 900k views on YouTube, there are only 40k comments on the FCC site. I know that not everyone who watched the video lives in the U.S., but the number of comments should still be a lot higher than that.

People probably see they need to put a name and address and decide not to.
 
People probably see they need to put a name and address and decide not to.

For a while, I couldn't even load up their website. And then about half an hour later, the website was going really really slow. I believe that's part of the problem

Of course, that didn't stop me
 
Change title to:

"GAF, we need YOUR help to preserve the internet"

and keep bumping. Or ask a mod/Evilore to sticky. Considering GAF wouldn't be on the winning side of NN, I think its worth a shot.
 
John Oliver is really on point with what he's talking about...but man, he really couldn't be less funny.

The clip in the OP had me laughing hard at times, especially the end when he says that he is sending his internet troll minions out to do actual good.
 
Watched the segment last night. Will try to put my comment in today. What I don't get is how politicians are not concerned by this.

What's stopping a red super PAC to get its websites on the fast lanes on blue states, while putting the blue sites on the slow lane?

Basically the internet would belong to those with money and cable companies get rich without competing with each other.

Is disgusting.
 
Watched the segment last night. Will try to put my comment in today. What I don't get is how politicians are not concerned by this.

What's stopping a red super PAC to get its websites on the fast lanes on blue states, while putting the blue sites on the slow lane?

Basically the internet would belong to those with money and cable companies get rich without competing with each other.

Is disgusting.

Probably because most of them are paid, err lobbied (my bad), by the cable companies.
 
With regards to the monopoly angle, didn't the phone companies do basically the same thing all through the 20th century? This shit is tradition.
 
I'm bumping this because I believe this deserves a lot more attention than it's currently getting.

Here's one reason: Comcast has bought every single lobbying firm in DC. Every single one of the top 40 firms are hired by Comcast (for this and the TWC merger)

In the NC Senate race- both candidates are getting a large amount of Comcast cash. The NC State legislature was bribed a couple years ago into passing a law banning municipal broadband in the state.

Obama has to golf with Comcast's CEO.

Both parties are petrified of Comcast- they've grown that powerful, and companies like Google and Netflix pale in comparison in terms of politcal muscle.

It's going to take some insurgency candidates. I'm actually thinking of a 2016 State Legislature protest campaign over this.
 
I heard a guy explaining this segment to an "average Joe" fm radio host and after explaining it in the most simple way possible, the host says "I don't get it. It sounds like Verizon is doing a good thing."
 
Just did a comment. This is definitely one of the pivotal moments of our future as a nation. It would be unconscionable for the internet as we know it to be separated into winners and losers based on money.

It would just be one more blow to us as a country to essentially decide to fall behind other nations as the future comes.
 
I heard a guy explaining this segment to an "average Joe" fm radio host and after explaining it in the most simple way possible, the host says "I don't get it. It sounds like Verizon is doing a good thing."

this is confusing by design. it's going to take corporations fighting other corporations to stop it.

you can't rely on oblivious morons to raise their voice about a complex issue that affects their lives like this. Maybe Duck Dynasty needs to do an episode about it.
 
Is this going to have any consequenceds for countries othe rthan the US? I like my 75 MBps Internet Connection for 25€ and would really keep using it at full speed for all sites I want to access.
 
Is this going to have any consequenceds for countries othe rthan the US? I like my 75 MBps Internet Connection for 25€ and would really keep using it at full speed for all sites I want to access.

Possibly not but I am worried about there being some sort of international knock on effect. Seems like some of these corporations take for granted just how global the internet is.
 
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