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Price me up a CRYSIS capable PC UK

casmaksen

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Consider me a PC casual. I haven't built a Power Rig since the late 90's so i'm completly out of the loop. All i want is Rig that'll run CRYSIS at it's highest settings.
Have the developers made the game for any particular setup they have recommended. Or are they linked to any particular card manufacturer?

I'm in the uk but if you can find me one in $ or whatever i can do the rest.

Thanks for anyone who can help. I'm sure there are many others like me who just keep up with whats what it comes to gaming hardware.

Oh and the TV i'll be running it on is 1080i native and only has dvi, composite and vga inputs.
:)
 
From InCrysis

-You will need a SM2.0 (or higher) compatible graphics card.
-The official system requirements/minimum specs have not yet been released. Anything you find is pure non-official speculation.
-What framerate is acceptable depends a lot on what you've gotten used to. Some people can play with around 20 FPS and others will not go below 50. Obviously those who can't stand "low" framerates need better hardware or they'll have to lower the settings.
-The only DX10 cards available now are the GeForce 8800s. There will be many more before Crysis is released. Vista ready is simply a clever marketing trick used on the previous generation cards.
-We do not know how much processor horsepower is needed. Dual/Multi -core processors are supported, though.
-You do NOT need a DX10 card or Vista to run Crysis.
-You CANNOT run DX10 on XP. However, a DX10 card does work on XP, but only in DX9 mode.
-DX10 effects cannot be enabled with a DX9 card.
-Almost everything you've seen so far has been DX9, which means that Crysis will look absolutely awesome in DX9 as well.
-Crysis takes advantage of 64 bit processors, but to do that you need a 64 bit OS.

Q: Will Crysis run on my computer?
A: If your computer is under two years old at the time of the game's release (Q1 '07), it should run Crysis.

Q: How well does Crysis run on my computer?
A: You should be able to get about the same performance/graphics out of Crysis as you get from any other new game. Your graphics card/processor doesn't magically improve when you play Crysis, so your computer will still be able to produce about the same quality than in other games with roughly the same framerate. When the demo comes out, test it and you'll see.

Q: What do I need to run Crysis on MAX?
A: It depends on what you mean by max. For starters, you will need a DX10 graphics card (see here) and Windows Vista (a DX10 compatible OS). After that, it depends a lot on what resolution you want to play at. 2560x1600 requires a lot more horsepower than the native LCD resolution of 1280x1024. What you need also depends heavily on if you want to use AA and AF.
Update: Apparently there will be enough settings to put on in Crysis that you will not be running it on absolutely maxed settings when it's released, no matter what consumer PC you have.

Q: Will I be able to play Crysis with a rig like this at this resolution with these settings enabled with a decent framerate?
A: No one can answer a question like that. See question number two and compare the settings to other games to get an idea.

Q: They're running the game on super fast machines at E3 and GC and they still have performance issues! The game will need an über PC to run!
A: That wasn't a question. tongue However, the builds shown at E3 and GC were not optimized yet. They had not removed unneccessary debug code. That is why it was stuttering at points, but the final release you're going to buy at a store will run a lot better, so there won't be a need for an 'über PC'.

Q: My PC has this, this, this and this. Do I need to upgrade?
A: Wait for the demo(s) and see how it plays on your computer. Then decide if you want better performance and more eye candy.

Q: Does Crysis support the Ageia PhysX card?
A: No, it doesn't. That means you won't get any benefit from a PhysX card when you're playing Crysis.

Q: OMFG it's so freaking annoying and unfair that you need Vista AND a DX10 graphics card to have DX10 effects in Crysis!
A: There's a good reason that DX10 exclusive stuff is just that - exclusive to DX10. The reason you aren't seeing the things in DX9 is not that they couldn't be done. Probably anything that can be done in DX10 can be done in DX9 as well, but the performance difference can be absolutely huge. That means even the best DX9 cards would only be able to produce a slideshow with the DX10 effects applied. DX10 being Vista only is - according to Microsoft - neccessary, don't blame Crytek for that. tongue

Discuss the specs/etc in this thread only. All other topics about the same thing will be locked to keep the discussion here and prevent confusion. smile Please direct the new people asking these questions to this thread. wink
Ideas are very much welcome! I might've missed a question or an important point. smile
 
Bah easy.

Quad Core Processor ( the fastest Dual Core with some sweet OC'ing )
DX10 Compatible Videocard in SLI ( GeForce 8800 or better, SLI = 2 cards working together )
4 Gigs of Ram ( More = better )
Fastest Sata Drive you can find
Vista (Why not ^^ If you're bying a computer this good it may as well look good when using it for other things that Crysis )

And then perhaps you can run Crysis like it looks in the screenshots :D
 
this is THE game i will be just going crazy with an upgrade to my already pretty fcking powerful pc. its embarrasing to say i really dont care if the game is good :( it just looks way too awesome visually!
 
jakershaker said:
Bah easy.

Quad Core Processor ( the fastest Dual Core with some sweet OC'ing )
DX10 Compatible Videocard in SLI ( GeForce 8800 or better, SLI = 2 cards working together )
4 Gigs of Ram ( More = better )
Fastest Sata Drive you can find
Vista (Why not ^^ If you're bying a computer this good it may as well look good when using it for other things that Crysis )

And then perhaps you can run Crysis like it looks in the screenshots :D

Right :lol
Of course it doesn't matter that the PC's used for demonstrations are infinitely cheaper than what you just listed. Noooo, let's just spread more FUD.
 
if you build yourself you should be able to get one for around 600 quid. I know because I'm building one at the moment, the only thing mine will have missing is a dx10 graphics card.

If you shop around you should be able to get prices (shipped) like below:

Case & PSU ~ 70 - 80
Motherboard ~ 80 - 90
2 Gig of Ram (PC6400) ~ 90 - 100
CPU (E6600) ~ 140 - 170
DVDRW ~ 20
Vista Home Premium ~ 60
Graphics is a wild card, you should be able to get a very decent one for around 100 to 120 pounds (7800GT, X1950GT), or a decent enough one (7600GT) for around 60 to 80.

I wonder what ATI is going to charge for their mid-range DX10 cards when they're out.
 
Kabouter said:
Right :lol
Of course it doesn't matter that the PC's used for demonstrations are infinitely cheaper than what you just listed. Noooo, let's just spread more FUD.

Post link and specs to the machine used then?

You really think you can get by with a singlecore processor and a dx9 card? And for Vista and gaming 4gb of ram is damn nice to have.

Tbh the only bit thats slightly over the top is a quadcore as you will probably be fine with a good dualcore but the quadcores are coming so why not go for it. Not like it will be a bad investment.

NOTICE: He said the HIGHEST setting. No 7900 or 1950xt will do that. 1-2gb or ram probably won't do that. A chep dualcore will not do that.

From the interview:

Apparently there will be enough settings to put on in Crysis that you will not be running it on absolutely maxed settings when it's released, no matter what consumer PC you have.

So my guess is probably even to low.
 
jakershaker said:
Post link and specs to the machine used then?

You really think you can get by with a singlecore processor and a dx9 card? And for Vista and gaming 4gb of ram is damn nice to have.

Tbh the only bit thats slightly over the top is a quadcore as you will probably be fine with a good dualcore but the quadcores are coming so why not go for it. Not like it will be a bad investment.

The machines they use have a single 8800 card, a core 2 duo CPU and 2GB of RAM and are running Vista obviously.
 
jakershaker said:
Bah easy.

Quad Core Processor ( the fastest Dual Core with some sweet OC'ing )
DX10 Compatible Videocard in SLI ( GeForce 8800 or better, SLI = 2 cards working together )
4 Gigs of Ram ( More = better )
Fastest Sata Drive you can find
Vista (Why not ^^ If you're bying a computer this good it may as well look good when using it for other things that Crysis )

And then perhaps you can run Crysis like it looks in the screenshots :D

Actually unless you run a 64-bit OS, 4GB of RAM is useless, 2GB is about fine.

Plus SLI isn't really needed if you wanna run the game at 1920x1080, if you wanna run it at some crazy resolution like 2560x1600 then yeah SLI is needed, but a single 8800GTX or R600 (when it comes out) should be fine, especially if you overclock it a little.

Quadcore is also overkill, since no game uses four cores, not even crysis.
 
Teknopathetic should get in here. He doesn't know how to use the quote button properly, but he usually knows what he's talking about (PC-wise).
 
Xavien said:
Actually unless you run a 64-bit OS, 4GB of RAM is useless, 2GB is about fine.

Plus SLI isn't really needed if you wanna run the game at 1920x1080, if you wanna run it at some crazy resolution like 2560x1600 then yeah SLI is needed, but a single 8800GTX or R600 (when it comes out) should be fine, especially if you overclock it a little.

Quadcore is also overkill, since no game uses four cores, not even crysis.

Ah perhaps quadcore is aq little bit of overkill but as both Alan Wake and Unreal Tournament 2007(do they call it UT3 now?) are both confirmed to support quadcore it's not way off to suspect Crysis will have some kind of support for this too(perhaps withs some patching). Farcry got HDR and SM3.0 support by patching so Crytek likes to be at the frontlines of tech.

But Dualcores are still the best bang for the buck and you can always upgrade to a quad if the devs start to support it more in the future, still waiting for all games to have good dual core support XD

For Vista 4gb ram is not useless at all as it fills up the availible RAM as much as it can, more ram = better.
 
rod said:
this is THE game i will be just going crazy with an upgrade to my already pretty fcking powerful pc. its embarrasing to say i really dont care if the game is good :( it just looks way too awesome visually!

The game will be fine! Far Cry was fun until the muties. IMAGINE however THE MODS!

Imagine something like Garry's mod in Crysis.

:O
 
jakershaker said:
Ah perhaps quadcore is aq little bit of overkill but as both Alan Wake and Unreal Tournament 2007(do they call it UT3 now?) are both confirmed to support quadcore it's not way off to suspect Crysis will have some kind of support for this too(perhaps withs some patching). Farcry got HDR and SM3.0 support by patching so Crytek likes to be at the frontlines of tech.

But Dualcores are still the best bang for the buck and you can always upgrade to a quad if the devs start to support it more in the future, still waiting for all games to have good dual core support XD

For Vista 4gb ram is not useless at all as it fills up the availible RAM as much as it can, more ram = better.

Support does not equal better performance, Quake 4 supported dual-core, but there is 1FPS improvement when you run Quake 4 with a Dual Core.

For Vista, as long as its 32-Bit it will not use 4GB of RAM for games or any application. Why? because 32-Bit Operating Systems in general are inherently limited to 2GB Max per application. Only 64-Bit overcomes this limitation.

Link: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/profwin/pw0801.mspx

I mentioned earlier that 32-bit processes can't load 64-bit DLLs and 64-bit processes can't load 32-bit DLLs. You might be wondering why? Well, one of the reasons has to do with "thunking". By default, 64-bit applications can use 8 TB of user mode address space. You have the option to specify that all memory below 2 GB be allocated to the application. Because 32-bit DLL can't address memory space above 2GB, the thunk layer would have to copy all data into the low 2GB of the 64-bit application. Obviously, this won't work if the 64-bit application tries to pass a pointer to data that is larger than 2GB.

For a single application a 32-bit OS will not use more than 2GB, be it Vista, XP, Linux or OSX. You need a 64-bit OS for that to work, and if you have a 32-bit OS, only 3.5GB of that 4GB will even be recognised by the OS, its all to do with binary and the lack of numbers required to name memory spaces above 2^32.

If you are gonna get a Quad Core, i would advise waiting until theres competition from AMD that lowers the price, however Dual Core is gonna be enough for many PC games to come.
 
Borys said:
The game will be fine! Far Cry was fun until the muties. IMAGINE however THE MODS!

Imagine something like Garry's mod in Crysis.

:O

In my mind, the game ended with the climax. The post climax chapters don't exist. Because of this, I've got fond memories of Far Cry.

To the OP: If Crysis is your main objective, wait till it's released. There's a lot of new hardware coming out in the next 6 months that should be worth the wait for Crysis.
 
Xavien said:
Support does not equal better performance, Quake 4 supported dual-core, but there is 1FPS improvement when you run Quake 4 with a Dual Core.

For Vista, as long as its 32-Bit it will not use 4GB of RAM for games or any application. Why? because 32-Bit Operating Systems in general are inherently limited to 2GB Max per application. Only 64-Bit overcomes this limitation.

Link: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/profwin/pw0801.mspx



For a single application a 32-bit OS will not use more than 2GB, be it Vista, XP, Linux or OSX. You need a 64-bit OS for that to work, and if you have a 32-bit OS, only 3.5GB of that 4GB will even be recognised by the OS, its all to do with binary and the lack of numbers required to name memory spaces above 2^32.

If you are gonna get a Quad Core, i would advise waiting until theres competition from AMD that lowers the price, however Dual Core is gonna be enough for many PC games to come.

Is 2GB really the practical cap? Vista has a pretty large footprint. Would having more than 2GB give Crysis a full 2GB and the OS whatever it wanted (say 500MB). Or is the OS number part of the application it's running? I'm buidling this year, and if more than 2GB is pointless, I'm not wasting the money.
 
1-D_FTW said:
Is 2GB really the practical cap? Vista has a pretty large footprint. Would having more than 2GB give Crysis a full 2GB and the OS whatever it wanted (say 500MB). Or is the OS number part of the application it's running? I'm buidling this year, and if more than 2GB is pointless, I'm not wasting the money.

2GB is the 'per application cap', the Operating System itself can use up to 3.5GB. 3.5GB is the hard cap for the OS, as a limitation for 32-bit means it cannot be seen by the OS beyond that point, so you could put 4GB in your PC and look at the system properties in Vista and it'll only show 3.5GB or a little higher.

Just to clarify, for each process or application, the limit is 2GB of addressable memory, for the Operating System in general, its 3.5GB.
 
jakershaker said:
Bah easy.

Quad Core Processor ( the fastest Dual Core with some sweet OC'ing )
DX10 Compatible Videocard in SLI ( GeForce 8800 or better, SLI = 2 cards working together )
4 Gigs of Ram ( More = better )
Fastest Sata Drive you can find
Vista (Why not ^^ If you're bying a computer this good it may as well look good when using it for other things that Crysis )

And then perhaps you can run Crysis like it looks in the screenshots :D

I seriously doubt the screens we've seen are on quad core processors. Lets also remember that these screens we've recently seen are running at an insane resolution for a trade show how do you even know the OP has a monitor that can handle that high of a resolution. For the game to run at 1280x1024 or so it doesnt require as much power.
 
Teknopathetic said:

but it looks great on a G80, Geforce 8800 GTX, Core 2 duo

Looks great? I bet Crysis looks great on low/medium too.

If full specs on what computer was used and which settings then it would be a viable quote, as of now it's not.

But thats not really the point. The OP asked for a computer that could run Crysis at MAX settings and thats pretty much the most expensive rig you can buy now, even thats not guranteed to be able to do that.

For us mere mortals I'm sure Crysis will run well on most machines if you're ready to lower some setting.

For me Im going to run it on a CoreDuo with a 1950xt @ 1280x1024 and I don't think the performance/graphics are going to be bad in any way.

*Edit*

The Inquirer :lol :lol :lol
 
If you buy it the day Crysis is released, $1000, give or take. That will net you a fast dual core, a fast dx10 card, 2g of RAM, a mobo, HDD, case, PSU and the other assorted odds and ends that go into a PC.

IMO, this is a bad question to ask around here, because there's a lot of butt hurt console fans that can only reconcile Crysis' absolute gut stomping of their favorite console title with the old, "but it needs a $10,000 pc lololololol."
 
Draft said:
If you buy it the day Crysis is released, $1000, give or take. That will net you a fast dual core, a fast dx10 card, 2g of RAM, a mobo, HDD, case, PSU and the other assorted odds and ends that go into a PC.

Pretty much the truth.
 
Teknopathetic said:
"Looks great? I bet Crysis looks great on low/medium too."

"Pretty much the truth."


1000$ when Crysis is released would net you a machine with the same specs mentioned in the article you just slagged. C2D, 8800GTX, etc. etc. Make up your mind.


http://www.techspot.com/article/37-ces-2007-in-pictures-partone/page2.html

Yep. So you can run Crysis and have a damn good time plying it.

NOT playing it in the highest setting ^^

So my mind is pretty much the same as it was.
 
You could build that system NOW for ~$1,000.

C2D 6400~ 200
8800 GTS~ 300
2g RAM- ~200
Case~ 40
PSU~ 60
HDD~ 100
Sound Card~ 100
 
Wow, just reading this thread made me realize how my 3 year old PC just can't cut it for games anymore. Looks like I'll hold out and upgrade next year. :(
 
http://www.techspot.com/article/37-ces-2007-in-pictures-partone/page2.html

To whoever said it couldn't run on a single core.

Now, what we did love about paying a visit to Microsoft booth was giving DX10-powered Crysis a try. We have to admit we continue to be huge fans of Far Cry, and having Crytek developers working on an innovative PC title again makes us drool. We were able to talk with Jack Mamais, Crysis’ Lead Designer, who wouldn’t confirm a release date but he said they are hoping to have it done by the first half of this year. He mentioned they are about to reach alpha development stage, meaning the one playable level they were showing was still non-optimized code. Running on a fast (single core) Intel CPU and a single Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX board, the game ran smooth for the most part on an impressive 2048x1536 resolution, with some choppiness noticed when things got really busy on the screen. We couldn’t help being impressed by Crysis graphics and gameplay versatility, so we put our word down on it, this should be on your top 5 game watch list for 2007.
 
jakershaker said:
Yep. So you can run Crysis and have a damn good time plying it.

NOT playing it in the highest setting ^^

So my mind is pretty much the same as it was.
Yes playing it at the highest settings. Or do you think Crytek would show off Crysis on less than maximum settings?
 
Kabouter said:
Yes playing it at the highest settings. Or do you think Crytek would show off Crysis on less than maximum settings?

Publishers do it all the time. Show how it supposed to look in a laggy mess then lowerng the settings saying it's unfinished code.

*Edit*

I'm really getting tired of this discussion tbh. If someone really think they can max out Crysis with a Core2Duo and a single 8800 I just want to say good luck.

Please post again this fall when you're maxing out Crysis :lol :lol
 
McBacon said:
From InCrysis

Q: What do I need to run Crysis on MAX?
A: It depends on what you mean by max. For starters, you will need a DX10 graphics card (see here) and Windows Vista (a DX10 compatible OS). After that, it depends a lot on what resolution you want to play at. 2560x1600 requires a lot more horsepower than the native LCD resolution of 1280x1024. What you need also depends heavily on if you want to use AA and AF.
Update: Apparently there will be enough settings to put on in Crysis that you will not be running it on absolutely maxed settings when it's released, no matter what consumer PC you have.


What does that mean?
 
That doesn't necessarily mean anything, you could say the same thing about Gothic 2 or Oblivion. Since it's PC, all it usually takes to make a game unplayable on top end rigs is some ini editing.
 
Crysis won't be out for a while yet so wait at least until AMD and ATI bring out there range which undoubtedly will drive prices down for far better architecture.
 
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