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Pro Sushi Chef reviews cheap sushi, doesn't like it (except SushiStop)

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Even Japanese people eat 'garbage' sushi thoughout Japan, from convenience stores etc. I don't see what the problem is.

It's like comparing McDonalds to a gourmet burger joint - the quality is obviously different but you get demand for both ends of the scale.

Whoa have you had "garbage" sushi in Japan?

It's pretty good to be honest. The quality of convenience store food, at least in Tokyo is lightyears ahead of 7-Eleven in the United States.

Also I went to a conveyor belt sushi place that charged only 120 yen per plate of 2 pieces and the quality of the rice and fish was far better than the average place here in the States where you'd spend $30-40 per person.
 
Are tattoos as accepted in Japan as they are in the USA? My mom always says tattoos are taboo because they relate it to the Yakuza, but maybe times have changed or she was wrong to begin with.

Not nearly as accepted, still heavily associated with crime. Plenty of onsen outright forbid it.

Edit: double post. Sorry
 
is it only in my country that sushi joints are mostly run by chinese staff and chefs? it's like there's this non-dit that goes: "hey, at least we're still asians!", but it still kinda bothers me somehow. there are near to none japanese immigrates here in italy, and very few sushi restaurant can be actually deemed decent.
 
is it only in my country that sushi joints are mostly run by chinese staff and chefs? it's like there's this non-dit that goes: "hey, at least we're still asians!", but it still kinda bothers me somehow. there are near to none japanese immigrates here in italy, and very few sushi restaurant can be actually deemed decent.

It's the same in Spain, but you can also find some proper sushi/Asian restaurants here. Some of the best I've visited were staffed by Japanese expats and their sons, but there a are a few Spanish run ones that are well over just "good".
 
How in the world does Walgreens even carry their own sushi? All the ones near me are tiny, and their food sections are pretty much one aisle. There's not even anywhere for them to prepare food unless they just make it in the back room or some shit.
 
The only sushi I've had came from buffets. I wonder where it ranks. Probably decent since there were guys preparing it.

I think I'm going to go get sushi tomorrow.
 
I live in Vancouver so i'm spoiled for choice.

But I use the salmon as my measure, as we have an amazing wild source here. If the salmon isn't wild sockeye, or was previously frozen (ie become mush) it's not for me.

Basically look for bright red salmon, not pale or orange, without the thick fat lines going through it (If you're lucky to have a choice that is!).

Doesn't get much better than a perfect sockeye salmon nigiri.
 
Sushi that sits on a store shelf
1.0

Is delicious sushi.

Also can't go wrong with ham and pineapple pizza.

Good stuff.
 
I looked at sushi at my local Frys grocery store. One of the ingredients was "sushi seasoning" the first 2 ingredients were high fructose corn syrup and Carmel color. Ugh

lol. "Sushi seasoning'' is a thing. It's the mixture you pour on the rice as you fluff it. And yes, sugar is involved.


Haha. That's like saying, "guys, I was eating my meatloaf sandwich and I looked at one of the ingredients and it was ketchup!. Not only that but they used bread crumbs!" Just another culinarily illiterate who couldn't get a job at McDonalds but feels like they can complain about food standards.

Call the EPA! They must know there is caramel color in your soy sauce Amon!
 
It's the same in Spain, but you can also find some proper sushi/Asian restaurants here. Some of the best I've visited were staffed by Japanese expats and their sons, but there a are a few Spanish run ones that are well over just "good".

yeah, here too. one of the best sushi restaurant at which i've eaten in my city has an all italian staff. evidently they are sushi enthusiasts who did proper research and studied the craft.
 
I get the feeling that a lot of people here and in general don't know that all of the sushi you are eating in North America was frozen. It has to be, especially with something like Salmon (Sake). The fish are caught and immediately flash frozen. The freezing temperature kills any harmful organisms that could be in the fish.

I'd actually recommend against trying raw fish in Japan if you haven't lived there. Some people here might not have had a problem, but unlike people that have lived there for decades, you don't have the immune system built to withstand the potentially dangerous organisms in raw seafood. The difference there is that you won't find the local catches of things like tuna flash frozen.
 
Tried supermarket sushi a couple of times, but it was pretty bad. Thank god there's a good sushi place near my house, gladly pay the extra money for the better stuff.
 
Whoa have you had "garbage" sushi in Japan?

It's pretty good to be honest. The quality of convenience store food, at least in Tokyo is lightyears ahead of 7-Eleven in the United States.

Also I went to a conveyor belt sushi place that charged only 120 yen per plate of 2 pieces and the quality of the rice and fish was far better than the average place here in the States where you'd spend $30-40 per person.
Yeah I have. Though I'm quite fond of the nigiri from 7-11 myself.

When I said 'garbage' I mean cheap sushi you'd find at a conbini. The lower end of the scale in Japan is probably mid-tier to what you can get in the rest of the world.
 
I've worked for Walgreens (and that's right, there is no apostrophe in the name) for over six years now and didn't know we carried sushi. Granted, there are some stores out there that are slightly more "upscale" than a standard store.
I'm not sure if it's different in other places, but every Walgreens I've been to in Chicago has had them right by the checkout area.
 
I get the feeling that a lot of people here and in general don't know that all of the sushi you are eating in North America was frozen. It has to be, especially with something like Salmon (Sake). The fish are caught and immediately flash frozen. The freezing temperature kills any harmful organisms that could be in the fish.

I'd actually recommend against trying raw fish in Japan if you haven't lived there. Some people here might not have had a problem, but unlike people that have lived there for decades, you don't have the immune system built to withstand the potentially dangerous organisms in raw seafood. The difference there is that you won't find the local catches of things like tuna flash frozen.
Cipro. Never travel internationally without a bottle.

No seriously, have one guys.
 
I get the feeling that a lot of people here and in general don't know that all of the sushi you are eating in North America was frozen. It has to be, especially with something like Salmon (Sake). The fish are caught and immediately flash frozen. The freezing temperature kills any harmful organisms that could be in the fish.

I'd actually recommend against trying raw fish in Japan if you haven't lived there. Some people here might not have had a problem, but unlike people that have lived there for decades, you don't have the immune system built to withstand the potentially dangerous organisms in raw seafood. The difference there is that you won't find the local catches of things like tuna flash frozen.

Is that a thing? The only time I had any food related issues is when I went to a Teppanyaki restaurant and ate way too much food, I didn't have any problems with fish from the many times I ate it during my 2 week stay.
 
I'd actually recommend against trying raw fish in Japan if you haven't lived there. Some people here might not have had a problem, but unlike people that have lived there for decades, you don't have the immune system built to withstand the potentially dangerous organisms in raw seafood. The difference there is that you won't find the local catches of things like tuna flash frozen.

I don't think that oneself's immunological defences can do much about parasitic contamination by, e.g. anisakis simplex, which is IIRC the most common threat when speaking about raw fish. It's either there or there isn't.
 
Sushi in Taiwan's pretty great, and so cheap it doesn't make sense to buy the 7-11 or Family Mart offerings. Pic I took at the Donggang fish market near the coast of Pingtung; cost me about $6 US for everything pictured:

 
Sushi in Taiwan's pretty great, and so cheap it doesn't make sense to buy the 7-11 or Family Mart offerings. Pic I took at the Donggang fish market near the coast of Pingtung; cost me about $6 US for everything pictured:
Damn, that looks apetizing.
 
Most cheap sushi is all fake shit and tastes awful. I can't even bother with it anymore.

Fake crab, lobster, and other false fish slobbered in cream cheese or mayo or both, is just fucking gross.
 
The biggest alarm for cheap sushi is usually the thickness of the fish meat over the rice. The quality of the rice is a close second. I know it sounds obvious but if you eat enough sushi from different places, it glows like a red spot on a end-level boss.
 
That video was great, thank you for sharing.

My personal rule of thumb with sushi is don't eat it at a buffet or from a convenience market of any kind. I know it sounds sort of snobby, but yeah...
 
Sushi in Taiwan's pretty great, and so cheap it doesn't make sense to buy the 7-11 or Family Mart offerings. Pic I took at the Donggang fish market near the coast of Pingtung; cost me about $6 US for everything pictured:

Isn't that Sashimi?
 
I was actually wondering about cheap sushi in Japan. They have conveyer belt sushi which is relatively cheap, yeah? Is the quality still good for the price or do most people just go for convenience?

I wonder if that could ever pick up steam here
 
The cheapest I'll go is Mac's in the mall. Not sure if this is a Canadian chain but there's definitely a few of them in the food courts.

They at least use fresh ingredients and semi-know what they're doing. Anything from a supermarket - or actually any sushi from a place that isn't a sushi restaurant of some kind - is almost guaranteed to be poor.
 
Most cheap sushi is all fake shit and tastes awful. I can't even bother with it anymore.

Fake crab, lobster, and other false fish slobbered in cream cheese or mayo or both, is just fucking gross.


When I learned what American sushi looked like I threw up a little.

It looks so fucking disgusting. What the hell is up with all the mayonnaise and sauce, it's fucking fish and rice you idiots.

Deep fry that sushi while you're at it, you can't make it worse than it is already.
 
When I learned what American sushi looked like I threw up a little.

It looks so fucking disgusting. What the hell is up with all the mayonnaise and sauce, it's fucking fish and rice you idiots.

The sauce serves the purpose of most sauces, to fatten/flavor otherwise bad or lower quality food. It masks the lack of flavor in the fish, and the lack of attention to the rice.

Deep fry that sushi while you're at it, you can't make it worse than it is already.

It already exists.
 
When I learned what American sushi looked like I threw up a little.

It looks so fucking disgusting. What the hell is up with all the mayonnaise and sauce, it's fucking fish and rice you idiots.

Deep fry that sushi while you're at it, you can't make it worse than it is already.
Never had a tempura roll?

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I remember when I avoided sushi like the plague after getting sick from sea food as a kid. Gf made me actually try some and now I love the stuff.

Will always avoid cheap sushi to avoid a repeat of eating bad fish
 
When I learned what American sushi looked like I threw up a little.

It looks so fucking disgusting. What the hell is up with all the mayonnaise and sauce, it's fucking fish and rice you idiots.

Deep fry that sushi while you're at it, you can't make it worse than it is already.

To be fair, I've been to a variety of kaitenzushi places in Japan and I've seen mayo slathered on items (eww), hamburg sushi, nama ham sushi, kalbi sushi, and all sorts of stuff that truly stretches the definition of sushi.
 
When I learned what American sushi looked like I threw up a little.

It looks so fucking disgusting. What the hell is up with all the mayonnaise and sauce, it's fucking fish and rice you idiots.

Deep fry that sushi while you're at it, you can't make it worse than it is already.

Wow dude, take a deep breath...
 
I live in Vancouver so i'm spoiled for choice.

But I use the salmon as my measure, as we have an amazing wild source here. If the salmon isn't wild sockeye, or was previously frozen (ie become mush) it's not for me.

Basically look for bright red salmon, not pale or orange, without the thick fat lines going through it (If you're lucky to have a choice that is!).

Doesn't get much better than a perfect sockeye salmon nigiri.
In Canada (and I suspect all other countries as well), there is no such thing as sushi that hasn't been frozen first; all fish used for sushi has to be flash frozen.

I'm not sure of the laws pertaining to wild sockeye, but there is definitely a significant risk of exposing yourself to tapeworm by eating raw wild salmon that is not present when eating farm salmon. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the reason that salmon was not a common sushi fish in Japan until rather recently is because it was recognized as a fish that was unsafe to eat raw.

If you eat cheap sushi, be mindful of keriorrhea

Keriorrhea isn't necessarily caused by cheap sushi. It's a consequence of eating a particular kind of fish called escolar, which is often simply called "white tuna" or "butterfish" on sushi menus. It's actually quite tasty and is pretty ubiquitous here in Toronto, and even some of the higher price range restaurants serve it. But all of the best places that I've been to don't, because once you pass a certain threshold there's really no way to avoid getting sick from eating them for most people.

For what it's worth, I avoid it like the plague -- it gives me very bad cramps -- but my girlfriend eats it without any problems.

The biggest alarm for cheap sushi is usually the thickness of the fish meat over the rice. The quality of the rice is a close second. I know it sounds obvious but if you eat enough sushi from different places, it glows like a red spot on a end-level boss.
I think in Jiro, he mentions at some point that rice is by far the most important part of sushi. I used to think that was BS since it's the fish you really want to eat, but it's the bad rice of low-grade sushi that makes it inedible.
 
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