LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's also a cloud streaming service. Some here must not be used to renting.
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PS NOW. Rentals from US$2.99 to US$19.99.
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Totes.
Also, the idea that because a game can be purchased for a similiar amount of money is not a cohesive argument. If we play by those rules then should we completely abandon all digital film/tv services? Is iTunes dying because they charge $5.00 for a movie that I can watch in 90 minutes?
yeah but one of them you are also "renting" actual hardware to play those games for you
i suppose the difference is largely hidden from the consumer, so it's sony's job to figure out how to communicate that difference
but either way, it's a very big difference
perfectsil
Member
didn't know we have to pay for games during the beta, we're paying to ... beta test PS Now?
boredofcanada
Member
Is there a list of games available?
Also there will be subscription offer.
Silvawuff
Member
Yes, but the point of my argument is not making an equation. I'm comparing the services and I'm finding Sony's criticism of EA's offerings similar. Sony is suggesting the value of their services is better than EA's lineup, at the same time showing off prices in PS Now that are ridiculous, especially for rentals.
Yes, it's in beta and it can change, but as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong), those beta prices are live. People are paying for them with real funds.
Either way I think that it's not fair for Sony to be critical of other companies, before being critical of themselves and their business model for a similar online service that allows you to essentially borrow games for online play.
Primethius
Banned
Aside from the pricing for 4 hours, I think the rest of the prices are great. I've already picked up a game for 7 days. I'm completely content with paying $4 for a game and finish it in 7 days.
Hopefully Sony brings over more RPGs and I can easily see myself renting tons of games through the service.
Hopefully Sony brings over more RPGs and I can easily see myself renting tons of games through the service.
Its been a while since I've seen people shower EA with this much love and defense.
And by a while I mean never.
Maybe instead of the 4 hour option, they should have a one time free 30 minute option per title. That way you can check out the flavor of a game without risking money. And it can't be abused by you playing over and over. Or allow a variety of demo periods because some games might take longer than 30 minutes to "start" and in others 5-10 minutes may be plenty.
The pricing definitely need work. For a comparison look at OnLive; they have a Netflix type service with around 260 games for $9.95 a month and a bring-your-own-games (through Steam) service for $7.95 a month. Even when OnLive did offer rentals years ago (they don't anymore) their prices were much more reasonable starting at $2 - $5 for a 3 day pass. Take note Sony!
Silvawuff
Member
Ew no, I can't stand EA. Believe me, I'm not defending them or their business practices at all, merely drawing a comparison between Sony's criticism of their service versus the hamfisted execution of their own.
I like Sony quite a bit; I own more Sony products than I do from the other big players in the industry, but that doesn't mean I can't be critical of them.
Hopefully it will be reasonably priced.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I will be using the 7 day rentals all the time
JetBlackPanda
Member
If this service eventually lets me play Person 5 and the tales games Im going to miss because I sold my PS3 then its done its job.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Part of what they're testing is how people respond to various pricing structures (ie will people pay $x for y days of z game.)
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Agreed, a free taster would be cool. Paying $3 for 4 hours feels like we're one step away from paying for demos.
Substandard
Member
Posted some feedback on the PS blog.
I think it's a good idea, but the fact that it's limited to PS3 games (which are almost all readily available for reasonable prices), along with the pricing structure and lack of a subscription option makes it unlikely that I'll use it much.
If I didn't have a PS3, I could see paying around $10 to play through the single player of something, but when I can buy most of the games for $10 the rental prices seem a bit steep.
I think it's a good idea, but the fact that it's limited to PS3 games (which are almost all readily available for reasonable prices), along with the pricing structure and lack of a subscription option makes it unlikely that I'll use it much.
If I didn't have a PS3, I could see paying around $10 to play through the single player of something, but when I can buy most of the games for $10 the rental prices seem a bit steep.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
I think Sony is trying to part as much cash it can away from fools, before releasing their ACTUAL pricing structure.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
No. I will decide with my wallet anyways.
I am pretty sure that they will expand their library once its up and running.
I think its a good idea. and it'll be nice to be able to give the Vita some life after it drowned with little content.
Phototropic
Neo Member
I never owned a PS3, so I would be willing to spend $8 for a month of certain games once the collection expands, but like most I would prefer to see a subscription model.
I thought they were considering the subscription model. Like Netflix. I would be all over that after looking if the game catalogue is worth it. I know i left my ps3 with unfinished titles i would like to back to.
Its confirmed to be coming.
Phototropic
Neo Member
They are. I'm just saying that would see me using it more than just once or twice as it stands now.
Canis lupus
Member
Ridicilous indeed. Renting games was declared illegal here but I remember the prices in the local gameshop. It was 5 euro for 3 days.
Lol.. just read that they have some messed up prices. F1 can be rented for 90 days for the low price of $49.99
Whats up with that?
brianmcdoogle
Member
I'm still a bit surprised they don't have one title as a "free" 4 hour rental so people can test the service during this supposed beta. The connection test says I'm good enough to stream games, but I have no idea what that means in terms of quality or performance. Instead, I'll need to pay 2 bucks and pick something to rent for 4 hours to test this thing.
And not one PS4, PS2, or PS1 game available.
And not one PS4, PS2, or PS1 game available.
Blame Codemasters.
Publishers themselves are setting the prices for their games on PS Now.
ah... so this would not be regulated by Sony? Its just a service that goes through the publisher?
duessano
Member
It is regulated by Sony but it seems the Publishers agreed to set the pricing.
Is this how Netflix works? they actually have to sign deals that expire no? This is how PS+ free games work... no?
As OP says:
You can blame Sony for PS Now price for God of War (for example) not for FIFA 10.
3rdamention
Member
I believe it was revealed before that the Devs/Publishers receive a small cut of $$$ every time a free PSPlus game is downloaded. What that price is, nobody knows, but I believe some devs were happy with being on PSPlus.
staticneuron
Member
It isn't similar at all.
Even if you want to ignore the selection, the distribution and therefore the costs are different because the services are different.
The EA agreement allows you download and play those games from the library. PSnow is a streaming service. The cost to maintain a streaming product is higher because the end user is not downloading any extra files nor are they actually processing the game content. That takes hardware on the service provider end to take care of while EA doesn't have to worry about an issue like that.
Another point in how they are "not" similar is that even in Beta PSnow works across multiple devices. EA Access currently does not. So in terms of how the services work themselves and the actual target audience, they are different and trying to compare the two is making a very large leap completely ignoring the technical differences between the two. Also if the publishers are setting the prices for specific titles then there is nothing Sony can really do about that.
Edit: Unless I am missing something but the wording on EA states downloading not streaming.
http://www.ea.com/eaaccess/faq.html
Thanks I just caught that.
IrishNinja
Member
eddfromtheriver
Banned
I agree, no matter which shitty game they use as a test, there needs to be a free test, even if it's only for 30 minutes just to see if it's viable in your area.
it's not though
TheSadRanger
Banned
If only there was an actual first party sony title on PSNow to compare prices >>
Seriously, it's baffling to me as to why they don't at least have one title out of the Resistance, Uncharted, God of War, and Gran Turismo franchises. I mean hell it would actually build some excitement for the service for people who switched 360 to PS4.
Tidus_Great
Banned
renting digital games lol
if you wait a few months you can buy most of them for like 15-20 used physical disc.
if you wait a few months you can buy most of them for like 15-20 used physical disc.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
A month doesn't sound bad, but honestly I wish Sony would just go all in like netflix and say "hey, give us $99 a year and play what ever you want for however long you want"
Not really surprising considering the prices of digital games on both console's stores. The fact that 2-3 year old games are still selling for 60$ digitally when you can get them for 15-20$ in store just show how close minded and disconnected from the real world the console manufacturers really are.
This is just an extansion of a problem that's been there since the beginning of digital stores on consoles.
This is just an extansion of a problem that's been there since the beginning of digital stores on consoles.
PseudoViper
Member
If you are avid video gamer I can see this working, for no reply value games
But $20 is just nuts
But $20 is just nuts