The Silver
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Do some of you really say "cross button"?
you people should be tried and executed
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LiquidMetal14
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It's never intended to be cross. X is a letter and X was on the PS1 pax. It didn't take long to adjust to that.
I do remember being quite quickly acclimated to the controls of the 1st gen PS1 rather quick. Good ole days.
I do remember being quite quickly acclimated to the controls of the 1st gen PS1 rather quick. Good ole days.
That's odd. I think most people from the west have the opposite problem due to the Xbox button configuration being intuitively designed for them in the left-to-right layout vs Nintendo's Asian styled, right-to-left layout.
Even growing up with the ninty style, going back to my 3DS or Wii U after using the intuitive design of the Xbox layout I fuck up CONSTANTLY. My latest playthrough of OoT3D had my brother laughing his ass off because I kept fucking up the skull kid jam-session heart-piece due to me hitting the wrong face buttons >_<
Also, Ecks for life. I remember thinking the SFxT name was fucking bonkers for the longest time until I heard it pronounced correctly by someone.
Crucifixion would be more appropo. PEACE.
Then people would call it 'plus'.
I say "Marvel X Tekken", admittedly.
Anyway i've always said X and i'm not gonna change now.
Cameron122
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When I rule, people who say cross like they're in some kinda anime or JRPG will be imprisoned
It was easy to learn for me. I'm a visual learner, and position of shapes is easier to remember than 2 dimensional orientation of letters, since we're used to them being seennin a linear manner. I think it's one of those things people often overlook, but I assume it was part of the reason of avoiding abxy. PEACE.
Exactly. What people don't realize is that the letter "x" is a colloquial shorthand that has become a misnomer. It is not a letter because the Latin alphabet doesn't exist in the Japanese language. For consistency a cross naturally fits along with the other symbols. I also see people bringing up Goto's article from 1up. What they fail to mention is that it was an interview. He was speaking, so of course he would say the letter like everyone else, including myself. That doesn't mean it is any more correct than thinking "y'all" is a more correct term than "you all." There's also everyone who's using terms like Xbox to make their case. Last time I checked, it was a product created by Americans using the Latin alphabet, so the pronunciation should be "x" instead of cross since they deemed it so. Playstation is a Japanese product made by a group of people who generally think more on a conceptual level instead of literal, as we can see by the interview that was linked multiple times. People are thinking literal here, which is why it's wrong. You can say whatever you want out of convenience; that doesn't necessarily make it so.
I remember how I switched Final Fantasy VII's "x" and "o" controls and it messed me up when I couldn't feed my chocobo greens since the controls didn't register. I thought it was broken and had to switch it back for it to work. As for why I think the east and west are flipped, I think it's something psychological. We read left to right. It matches up with positive and negative, respectively. A confirmation is usually seen as positive while a cancellation is negative. Therefore, we put "x" as confirm and "o" as cancel. Another way of looking at it is that since we read left to right, "x" comes first and circle is second. We instinctively match it as an order of superiority in the vein of first place/second place. Confirm is a positive, which is a good thing, so we label it as whatever comes first when we're reading from left to right. For Japan, it's the exact opposite because they read from right to left. Everything naturally falls into place that way.
blame space
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Since we're kind of doing a moratorium here please please stop saying "ninty", "the big N", and "Shiggy".
Please.
Please.
Back then? I still barely get it right without looking at the controller. Doesn't help that X is OK and O is Cancel on Western systems. :|
Sorry, PSX always has and always will be the PS1.
"Shiggy" sounds boombastic though.
PSX was a DVR/PS2.
harrypmgaga
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I'll allow "Ninty" because that's more of a geographical colloquialism, but FUCK "Shiggy" and "the big N" (what the fuck does that even mean?)
mickcenary
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Pfft. It's 100% "ecks".
I'm so cross with you cross guys. I Xpected more.
I'm so cross with you cross guys. I Xpected more.
that1dude24
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train ecksing
TheGreyHulk
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I've never heard anyone say "press the cross button"
I hate the colors they use for the buttons. I never remember which button is which color. For Xbox, its a diff story. I can recall which button to press faster via color than symbol. I used this to my advantage during the knife game in red dead redemption
I hate the colors they use for the buttons. I never remember which button is which color. For Xbox, its a diff story. I can recall which button to press faster via color than symbol. I used this to my advantage during the knife game in red dead redemption
I always thought Shiggy was both trashy looking and lazy considering how easy to remember and spell Miyamoto is.
The big N was a marketing thing back in the N64 days, iirc, and that's probably why it caught on to some extent with people.
Don't mind ninty at all and often use it. Think it's because repeatedly typing out "Nintendo" several times in a long post gets annoying.
I'm well aware they released a product called that, but the PS1 was called PSX (unofficially) long before that existed. I don't really recall the PlayStation ever being abbreviated "PS".
molnizzle
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#truthfact
RMS Gigantic
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That sign is known as a crossbuck, actually.
Also,
Wikipedia has spoken! Debate over!
fredrancour
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It's still bizarre to me that sf x tekken used the x to mean "cross," and nintendo compounded the insanity with xenoblade x. It looks like a redundant x, not a "cross."
I know an x in math with vectors is a cross product but vide game titles aren't math.
You people who called the x button the "cross" button are completely insane.
I know an x in math with vectors is a cross product but vide game titles aren't math.
You people who called the x button the "cross" button are completely insane.
RMS Gigantic
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Sam Bishop
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When some of these folks realize that z = zed in the rest of the world, the fabric of reality will be torn asunder.
JJDinomite
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There are people on this planet - as we speak - who have called the X button "cross" their whole lives.
I am speechless.
I am speechless.
A cross is symbolic of two lines or sides clashing with each other. Swords are more popular when we think of Japan because of their samurai heritage just like the west and guns. Think of the two lines as two swords clashing.
And no, most people don't say the word "cross." That's just what it technically is. I don't see harm in either one.
Also, kendo. Spot the x:
It wouldn't of improved the 2D games though , they still would of suffered from that limited PS1 RAM.
I'm generally OK flipping between B/A and A/B, probably because of NES through to GBA/GC experience.
X/Y and Y/X trip me up though because that WASN'T as consistently there for Nintendo. Came in with SNES, put on a bus until DS and Wii Pro Controller, with the GC SORT OF counting but just being weird in general.
Cynn
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That's right. The PS1 was the PSX before the PSX was the PSX.
If you want to be super technical there's no such thing as a "PS1". The PSX was the original PlayStation code name and the slim version was called PSone. STARTING with the PS2 did Sony use the three character names as trademarks.
PSOne - PS2 - PS3 - PS4
I think Sony wants everyone to forget the PS2 DVR Set Top Box "PSX".
I do have the habit of saying "cross" though. In Japan they circle correct things and cross out incorrect ones. That's the nature of the design of X and Circle.
Basketball
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dreamstation
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I've always called it X and I was right.
trick question, these are both the same.
eyeball_kid
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Honestly, I still switch up the circle and square buttons a lot when I'm learning new game controls. Always thought the button iconography was bad UX and still do because the symbols have no relation to their placement.
Uh, so just because Microsoft changed things, Nintendo should too?
Nintendo's layout was used 1990-1998 with the SNES (and even longer in Japan), 2003 announcement - today on the DS line and 2006-today in the Wii Line.
So, that's about 25 years worth of consistency. What's wrong about that?
EmCeeGramr
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People who say "cross" are probably the same backwards hillbillies or reefer smoking hippies who think that NES and SNES are pronounced as monosyllabic words.