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vic2020 said:
Doesn't homebrew basically turn a console into a PC? In that case why wouldn't you just use a good PC instead??

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If this leads to decent homebrew, then I'm all for it. Piracy is a very possible downside, but really, it won't be as bad as with something like the PSP or DS, where the games are so much smaller.

I'm fine with downloading episodes of Dexter and 24, 350mb each - but a 25 gig ISO? No. Never.

I just want to see what kind of possibilities this exploit might open up for homebrewers. An XBMC-esque suite would be awesome.
 
mooooose said:
No one wants that.

We want homebrew.

A port of XBMC (somehow, it's a X86 only software, even under Linux).

Piracy would just give Sony an even greater incentive to fix this hack.



I've been dying to play Beats of Rage on my PS3

richisawesome said:
If this leads to decent homebrew, then I'm all for it. Piracy is a very possible downside, but really, it won't be as bad as with something like the PSP or DS, where the games are so much smaller.

I'm fine with downloading episodes of Dexter and 24, 350mb each - but a 25 gig ISO? No. Never.

I just want to see what kind of possibilities this exploit might open up for homebrewers. An XBMC-esque suite would be awesome.


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grap3fruitman said:
Transcode everything? That's a great fix and not a shitty band aid you found on the ground.
You don't really need to transcode anything, other than RealMedia and some other crappy formats. MKV can be remuxed quickly, and the resulting file is playable on PS3 and any PC player. PS3 Media Center also remuxes them on the fly, it doesn't transcode them.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Hopefully we get the best elements of PSP custom firmware. I'm talking homebrew, emulators, PS1 EBOOT creation, registry hacks, and more video format support. Except this time, minimal piracy due to large Blu-ray downloads. Cautiously optimistic about this.

i think it would be more along the lines of the birth of 360 modding when they performed manual dumps of games instead of downloading. It would probably be more efficient (i.e 5$ for a 2 day game rental)

i guess blockbuster and gamefly might get a boost out of this
 
MasterTeacher said:
There's no real benefit to hacking the PS3

Well, you have to own one first to see why.


edit: Man, just adding simple emulator support would be awesome as a start. Having the end goal be something along the lines of XMBC; a dream come true.
 
Hotz wrote: "I have read/write access to the entire system memory, and HV level access to the processor."

Having this is one thing, but he still needs the key and I think that is still located inside the cpu itself. And there is no way to access that.

I'm guessing in a few days from now, he'll post another blog saying he's at a dead end.
 
richisawesome said:
Piracy is a very possible downside, but really, it won't be as bad as with something like the PSP or DS, where the games are so much smaller.
I love how you've somehow justified piracy based on size of file with an assumption that size matters when people who pirate are just interested in getting free shit even if it takes a week to download...as shown over and over again through the years.
 
Look, lets get fully blunt here. Homebrew on a console at this point is bullshit. You had the original Xbox, you have the Wii, you can have a PC. The media centre shit is just really weaksauce as if you wanted something like that so badly you'd have a mini-PC in your living room or whatever.

If homebrew found a perfect PS2 emulator already in there, thats something maybe 'worth it', but there are really so few advantages here to hacking your PS3 (not even a region excuse here either) beyond piracy that the dude would be a straight up cunt to release the exploit. It must really suck as a developer exclusive to a system to hear this rumble in the clouds.
 
MightyHedgehog said:
I love how you've somehow justified piracy based on size of file with an assumption that size matters when people who pirate are just interested in getting free shit even if it takes a week to download...as shown over and over again through the years.

Ah, maybe so. But the amount of people (usually mothers and older people) who come into the store where I work asking if we sell R4 cards is just staggering.
 
richisawesome said:
I wouldn't pirate regardless.

SNES roms are my limit, thanks - and that's only because my trusty Super Famicom has imploded on itself.
But you can buy SNES games a number of services now. Or you could have even bought a new SNES. That's still not much better.
 
badcrumble said:
All the more incentive for Sony to get around to adding .mkv playback, by the way.
They would never do it though, not if they want to kill some of their Blu-ray market. Like, 90% of rips on the internet are MKV pirate copies. :lol
 
Geohot is a fucking god. Seriously, the guy is like the new TMBinc, he started with the ps3 like one month ago and already got some advance on it. Next step, a company hires him for security.
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
Look, lets get fully blunt here. Homebrew on a console at this point is bullshit. You had the original Xbox, you have the Wii, you can have a PC. The media centre shit is just really weaksauce as if you wanted something like that so badly you'd have a mini-PC in your living room or whatever.

If homebrew found a perfect PS2 emulator already in there, thats something maybe 'worth it', but there are really so few advantages here to hacking your PS3 (not even a region excuse here either) beyond piracy that the dude would be a straight up cunt to release the exploit. It must really suck as a developer exclusive to a system to hear this rumble in the clouds.


Can't agree.

While the PC is infinitely more capable as a HT system, an XMBC decked PS3 system is much more convenient, much cheaper, probably less wattage, and just an overall more accessible solution.

I'm sure brain_stew will come in here and tell me I'm a bad person, while linking to a shuttle based HTC pc built for like 300 bucks :lol

He'd still be wrong.



badcrumble said:
Bingo. And I bet at least half the people in here saying no reeeeeally they want homebrew/XBMC out if it i SWEAR would use it for precisely that. The PS3 is already incredible as a media player, especially with PS3 Media Server. The only possibly defensible thing I could think piracy might add to it would be an SNES emulator or something.


No it's not, really. The PC serving the content however, is. The small, quiet, much more energy friendly PS3 however, should be able to do an admirable job once "unlocked" from restrictions.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
They would never do it though, not if they want to kill some of their Blu-ray market. Like, 90% of rips on the internet are MKV pirate copies. :lol

I'd really like to know what content do these gaffers watch on their MKV files. :P
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
Look, lets get fully blunt here. Homebrew on a console at this point is bullshit. You had the original Xbox, you have the Wii, you can have a PC. The media centre shit is just really weaksauce as if you wanted something like that so badly you'd have a mini-PC in your living room or whatever.

If homebrew found a perfect PS2 emulator already in there, thats something maybe 'worth it', but there are really so few advantages here to hacking your PS3 (not even a region excuse here either) beyond piracy that the dude would be a straight up cunt to release the exploit. It must really suck as a developer exclusive to a system to hear this rumble in the clouds.
Bingo. And I bet at least half the people in here saying no reeeeeally they want homebrew/XBMC out if it i SWEAR would use it for precisely that. The PS3 is already incredible as a media player, especially with PS3 Media Server. The only possibly defensible thing I could think piracy might add to it would be an SNES emulator or something.
 
kinggroin said:
Can't agree.

While the PC is infinitely more capable as a HT system, an XMBC decked PS3 system is much more convenient, much cheaper, probably less wattage, and just an overall more accessible solution.

I'm sure brain_stew will come in here and tell me I'm a bad person, while linking to a shuttle based HTC pc built for like 300 bucks :lol

He'd still be wrong.
Here's a pretty good solution: an unhacked PS3.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
They would never do it though, not if they want to kill some of their Blu-ray market. Like, 90% of rips on the internet are MKV pirate copies. :lol

if they want to remain divx certified, it will be in.

I welcome our homebrew overlords. XBMC on PS3 would be heavenly, but I probably wouldn't put it on as I'd like to connect to PSN.
 
badcrumble said:
Bingo. And I bet at least half the people in here saying no reeeeeally they want homebrew/XBMC out if it i SWEAR would use it for precisely that. The PS3 is already incredible as a media player, especially with PS3 Media Server. The only possibly defensible thing I could think piracy might add to it would be an SNES emulator or something.
I stream to my Xbox with XBMC using an external HDD and a hacked router. I don't want to have to leave my PC on to get my media. I don't even want to have to set up DLNA.

A real media center solution would fix that. As it stands, using a PS3 as a media solution is impractical. Yes, I could buy another Xbox, but there shouldn't be a need for that just because I want to watch my videos in my den and in my bedroom.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Hopefully we get the best elements of PSP custom firmware. I'm talking homebrew, emulators, PS1 EBOOT creation, registry hacks, and more video format support. Except this time, minimal piracy due to large Blu-ray downloads. Cautiously optimistic about this.

I'd like to follow this up before people start taking it the wrong way - at the end of the day this is all a perfect world scenario. Yes, it could be cool to install ISOs, yes it might explode your head if we were able to swap around the X and O buttons in the XMB, and i'd jump for joy if I could get some video files playing on the console correctly (some serious issues playing WMA audio, and decodes WMV yet has no ASF support??). But as people have said there are already other devices that can do just this. My drift is this - it's not needed, but could be nice to have; perhaps not if piracy has a chance to take hold.
 
Can't believe all of the idiocy in this thread.

1. Can't believe geohotz announces he's going to work with the ps3 after 3 years of some other people hacking and he hacks it in less than a month. He's fucking legend.

2. He has no reason to lie. He isn't looking for attention and this is the guy that originally hacked the iphone. He's fucking legend.

3. Homebrew isn't just LOL PIRACY HURR DERP (go try that in the wii homebrew thread, see how much your account lasts). Yeah it's truth that homebrew could bring piracy to small psn games (instead of 20gb bluray isos in trackers) but that's just a side effect.

4. Can't wait for the REAL benefits of this: Region-free ps2/ps1 games. Maybe custom firmware (fucking ticker can die in a fire, etc.).

5. Geohotz is fucking legend = fact.

jett said:
No, you can't play your pirated movies on your PS3 yet.

"Moving" your average pirated movie from MKV to AVI (which ps3 supports) would probably take less than 5 minutes so it's not like the MKV support problem is stopping him from pirating. Just because he wants MKV doesn't instantly mean he's a pirate. Maybe he's one of those psycho dvd rippers that rip their entire (genuine) dvd/bluray collections and put them in an external hard drive for easiness and chose mkv because that's the best free/open container out there. Can you stop with this piracy thing already? FFS please.
 
badcrumble said:
The only possibly defensible thing I could think piracy might add to it would be an SNES emulator or something.

Which is also possible on fat-PS3s out of the box (Linux), along with emulation of NES etc.




btw. was the ps3-no-games-post for real? If this joke is still going on, people might need to take a look in the GAF GOTY threads:

AniHawk said:
Top 20s by year:

2007:
Wii: 3
DS: 2
PS2: 2
PS3: 3
360: 4
Multiplatform: 6

2008:
Wii: 2
DS: 1
PS2: 1
PS3: 5
360: 2
Multiplatform: 9

2009 (there was a tie for 20th place again):
Wii: 1
DS: 1
PS3: 6
360: 4
PC: 1
Multiplatform: 8

(sorry for OT)
 
Personally I'd love to see something similar to PS2's HD Loader, if something like that were available I would probably finally break down and buy a ps3. Even with the size of BDs you could still fit the most frequently used games on a 500GB hard drive and it's only a matter of time before larger drives are available at a reasonable price. My PS2, Wii, DS, PSP and PC all have my current working set of games ready to play without having to worry about swapping the disc/cartridge and no worries about damaged discs or stolen cartridges.
 
i can't believe people saying that transcoding "works great" and is a "great solution" when it's just a shitty solution that barely does the job with crappy 1 pass low quality realtime mpeg2 encodes and is entirely dependent on another device (a good enough PC).

a real solution is something like a WDTV Live or ASUS O!Play.
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
The media centre shit is just really weaksauce as if you wanted something like that so badly you'd have a mini-PC in your living room or whatever.
If XMBC was to hit the PS3 I'd buy another one tomorrow. Far cheaper and far less hassle than purchasing a comparable HTPC.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
I'd like to follow this up before people start taking it the wrong way - at the end of the day this is all a perfect world scenario. Yes, it could be cool to install ISOs, yes it might explode your head if we were able to swap around the X and O buttons in the XMB, and i'd jump for joy if I could get some video files playing on the console correctly (some serious issues playing WMA audio, and decodes WMV yet has no ASF support??). But as people have said there are already other devices that can do just this. My drift is this - it's not needed, but could be nice to have; perhaps not if piracy has a chance to take hold.

I can understand the worry about piracy though, especially on Sony's platform after seeing what it's done on the PSP.

If there was a way, like (bootmii on the Wii), to create a custom XMB without the exploits to allow unsigned games to be played; basically a strictly media based hack, then great.

I'd love to move my popcorn hour to a different tv, and have the PS3 as my new media center piece.
 
badcrumble said:
I have. Some of you should really get randomly nailed with MPAA lawsuits.
I really don't understand how you could equate using XBMC to piracy but then justify PS3 streaming at the same time. It's just a difference in means of streaming.
 
The Faceless Master said:
i can't believe people saying that transcoding "works great" and is a "great solution" when it's just a shitty solution that barely does the job with crappy 1 pass low quality realtime mpeg2 encodes and is entirely dependent on another device (a good enough PC).

a real solution is something like a WDTV Live or ASUS O!Play.

Pretty much, makes me wonder if these people know what's happening when somethings being transcoded. Just a bullet point for bitches White Knightin' Sony.
 
MightyHedgehog said:
I love how you've somehow justified piracy based on size of file with an assumption that size matters when people who pirate are just interested in getting free shit even if it takes a week to download...as shown over and over again through the years.
yeah, this is silly, people pirated PS1/DC games on dialup, and 700MB would take all day, while typical speeds nowadays would get 25GB in 6 hours.
 
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