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[SecretBonusPoint]

Personally I'd love to see something similar to PS2's HD Loader, if something like that were available I would probably finally break down and buy a ps3. Even with the size of BDs you could still fit the most frequently used games on a 500GB hard drive and it's only a matter of time before larger drives are available at a reasonable price. My PS2, Wii, DS, PSP and PC all have my current working set of games ready to play without having to worry about swapping the disc/cartridge and no worries about damaged discs or stolen cartridges.

Oh come on now. Thats what would make you buy a PS3? Really? Not the games themselves or the fact Blu-Rays are incredibly resilient discs. I call pure bullshit there.

And listing the Wii is a completely different scenario. The Wii is region locked and other annoying shit to it where hacking it gives you access to what a 2008- console should. The PS3 is region free, you can have any PSN shop account on there, its got a great media center (imagine if Sony added support for MKV's or youre just lazy to use the Media Center!!). The only benefits here are piracy and MAYBE a PS2 emulator if it exists on there.

 

[mooooose]

Pretty much, makes me wonder if these people know what's happening when somethings being transcoded. Just a bullet point for bitches White Knightin' Sony.

They're the same idiots who hook up their PS3 with composite cables.

 

[UltimateIke]

The SNES is a spectacular system and all, but how many platforms do you guys really need it emulated on? People keep mentioning it, but I don't see how it's a useful application of the PS3...

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

No, you can't play your pirated movies on your PS3 yet.

At least my ASF complaint is legit. Lots of porn paysites offer downloadable HD porn in this container. It's almost impossible to remux it yet remain playable on PS3.

Also, i've noticed the PS3 doesn't support the WMA audio used in some Gamersyde videos. But maybe we should notify Blim (he posts here doesn't he?) before we start hacking the thing.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Look, lets get fully blunt here. Homebrew on a console at this point is bullshit. You had the original Xbox, you have the Wii, you can have a PC. The media centre shit is just really weaksauce as if you wanted something like that so badly you'd have a mini-PC in your living room or whatever.

If homebrew found a perfect PS2 emulator already in there, thats something maybe 'worth it', but there are really so few advantages here to hacking your PS3 (not even a region excuse here either) beyond piracy that the dude would be a straight up cunt to release the exploit. It must really suck as a developer exclusive to a system to hear this rumble in the clouds.

Homebrew on the PS3 is bullshit because the Xbox and Wii have it?

wait.. what???

 

[Speevy]

The SNES is a spectacular system and all, but how many platforms do you guys really need it emulated on? People keep mentioning it, but I don't see how it's a useful application of the PS3...

It's also represented pretty well on the Virtual console, which I'm sure everyone buys from.

 

[racerx]

1. Can't believe geohotz announces he's going to work with the ps3 after 3 years of some other people hacking and he hacks it in less than a month. He's fucking legend.

Well, first off, you're giving Hotz credit for something he hasn't really done yet. All he can do as of now is write and read from the system's memory. He still needs to get the hardware key. Without this, a software exploit(custom firmware) will be impossible. I bet there have been many people, like Hotz, who have been able to read and write to the systems memory.

This, I assume, has never been the hard part. The hard thing is extracting the root decryption key. And the one thing the cell(and MS's Xenon) cpu do well, is protecting this key.

 

[yencid]

There's no real benefit to hacking the PS3

Homebrews are a benefit in my eyes

 

[MikeE21286]

while typical speeds nowadays would get 25GB in 6 hours.

no way

 

[SolidusDave]

4. Can't wait for the REAL benefits of this: Region-free ps2/ps1 games.

The minority of PS3 owners have/will have PS2 hardware in their PS3, so no emulation and homebrew can't magically fix that.


again, no benefit or at least not one even slightly worth opening the console to pirates.

 

[Ultimo hombre]

2TB HDD with Home brew running my BR collection. OH GoD YES!

 

[The Faceless Master]

At least my ASF complaint is legit. Lots of porn paysites offer downloadable HD porn in this container. It's almost impossible to remux it yet remain playable on PS3.

Also, i've noticed the PS3 doesn't support the WMA audio used in some Gamersyde videos. But maybe we should notify Blim (he posts here doesn't he?) before we start hacking the thing.

all the GOOD porn sites use WMV, MP4 or MPG that play on PS3 (and 360)

play the MP4 from Gamersyde, not the WMV

 

[jett]

Also, i've noticed the PS3 doesn't support the WMA audio used in some Gamersyde videos. But maybe we should notify Blim (he posts here doesn't he?) before we start hacking the thing.

Huh, Gamersyde offers a ps3-friendly mp4 file of all their videos, although I've found that their wmv files play fine too.

 

[Alts]

For those concerned about the hacker's feelings towards piracy, from the blog's comments:

I'm less opposed to piracy on the PS3 as I am on the iPhone. Obviously, it must not hurt the game manufacturers that bad, or they wouldn't continue to release PC versions of games. And if a modchip is required, that will eliminate a huge chunk of would be pirates. If you are willing to open up your system, learn some electronics, and solder, perhaps you deserve free games. I hate the tools who download blackra1n then ask me where their free apps are, and wish Apple had better DRM, which none of the top guys in the iPhone scene would touch.

 

[SecretBonusPoint]

Homebrew on the PS3 is bullshit because the Xbox and Wii have it?

wait.. what???

Its more to the point of how many systems do you need a SNES emulator on really? Anyone that wanted an emu box would already have one set up by now.

I'm less opposed to piracy on the PS3 as I am on the iPhone. Obviously, it must not hurt the game manufacturers that bad, or they wouldn't continue to release PC versions of games.

Awesome reasoning here. Looks like its coming out, whatever!

 

[-PXG-]

Does this mean Dragona can play her Blu-Ray movies now?

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Pretty much, makes me wonder if these people know what's happening when somethings being transcoded. Just a bullet point for bitches White Knightin' Sony.

Yes, because I sure need to "transcode" a lot of things that the PS3 supports natively, even a lot of those unsupported MKV files are just an encoder change away.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Oh come on now. Thats what would make you buy a PS3? Really? Not the games themselves or the fact Blu-Rays are incredibly resilient discs. I call pure bullshit there.

And listing the Wii is a completely different scenario. The Wii is region locked and other annoying shit to it where hacking it gives you access to what a 2008- console should. The PS3 is region free, you can have any PSN shop account on there, its got a great media center (imagine if Sony added support for MKV's or youre just lazy to use the Media Center!!). The only benefits here are piracy and MAYBE a PS2 emulator if it exists on there.

Installing a full game to the HDD is a bonus considering how many PS3 drives are going bad. If they ran from the harddrive, it would extend the life of the unit.

 

[jett]

The SNES is a spectacular system and all, but how many platforms do you guys really need it emulated on? People keep mentioning it, but I don't see how it's a useful application of the PS3...

And if for some reason you really want to play SNES games on your PS3, you can just get a phat ps3 and install linux on that bitch.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Oh come on now. Thats what would make you buy a PS3? Really? Not the games themselves or the fact Blu-Rays are incredibly resilient discs. I call pure bullshit there.

And listing the Wii is a completely different scenario. The Wii is region locked and other annoying shit to it where hacking it gives you access to what a 2008- console should. The PS3 is region free, you can have any PSN shop account on there, its got a great media center (imagine if Sony added support for MKV's or youre just lazy to use the Media Center!!). The only benefits here are piracy and MAYBE a PS2 emulator if it exists on there.

i can't play my japanese PS2 games on my PS3, i would LOOOVE to play the JP version of DOA2: HARD*CORE on it...

 

[Psychotext]

no way

He's right. With a 10mb connection at full speeds you'd be looking at less than 6 hours. Start it before you go to bed, done by morning.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

i can't play my japanese PS2 games on my PS3, i would LOOOVE to play the JP version of DOA2: HARD*CORE on it...

Yes, PS3 is not region free. Also, Blu-rays and DVD movies are region locked along with PS1 and PS2 games. Out of all the discs the system reads, only one of them is not region locked come to think of it.

 

[kinggroin]

For those concerned about the hacker's feelings towards piracy, from the blog's comments:

.....



I'm with SecretBonusPoint. There's no good reason to have this thing hacked.

 

[badcrumble]

For those concerned about the hacker's feelings towards piracy, from the blog's comments:

What a tool.

 

[MikeE21286]

He's right. With a 10mb connection at full speeds you'd be looking at less than 6 hours. Start it before you go to bed, done by morning.

that doesn't mean you'll connect at 10mb/s over torrents and what-not

 

[Speevy]

If you are willing to open up your system, learn some electronics, and solder, perhaps you deserve free games.

Uh...WHAT?

 

[Psychotext]

that doesn't mean you'll connect at 10mb/s over torrents and what-not

I get 100% of my connection speed when downloading from newsgroups. Same story on decent private torrents.

But besides that, you could make the very same argument against 700mb downloads in the old days (internet speeds weren't exactly reliable then). That's ignoring the fact that most games would be no-where near 25gb.

 

[Noshino]

Can't believe all of the idiocy in this thread.

3. Homebrew isn't just LOL PIRACY HURR DERP (go try that in the wii homebrew thread, see how much your account lasts). Yeah it's truth that homebrew could bring piracy to small psn games (instead of 20gb bluray isos in trackers) but that's just a side effect.

Could? if (or when if geohot gets to it) the ps3 is hacked, then it will bring piracy with it. Its funny how people that love homebrew often not give a flying fuck about piracy, and they are often times the first ones that belittle the effects of piracy. (Im not against homebrew, but its sideeffects are often more harmful than their actual benefit)

And you make it sound simple and not harmful whatsoever, I would love to see how long you would last unharmed in a room full of devs :lol

 

[Cruzader]

The good news is that as a hypervisor attack it'll have utility beyond simple piracy. The bad news is, of course, that piracy will probably be enabled anyway.

I'm betting that it'll require a modchip, and be an amazing pain to install (solder points have shrunk a lot since the PS2...).


Oh, and four months after Sony officially crapped on the linux community by removing support for the Slim. I suspect there will be some "I told you so" emails floating around...

No, thats just an excuse pirates will use to justify hacking ps3. Hackers trying to hack the ps3 has nothing to do with the slim. It didnt magically take 4 months to hack if it took 3 years for one guy to find an exploit.

Anyways this saddens me. I hope Sony fights Piracy like MS by banning these ppls and doesnt let PSP's fate into the PS3.

 

[SuperSpy]

awesome

 

[Proc]

shit just got real

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

all the GOOD porn sites use WMV, MP4 or MPG that play on PS3 (and 360)

play the MP4 from Gamersyde, not the WMV

A couple of movies I downloaded off "the world's best porn site" (hint ) were in ASF and didn't play right on PS3. The PS3 said one was corrupt, while the other worked but didn't have audio.. both playback fine in Windows Media Player.

Huh, Gamersyde offers a ps3-friendly mp4 file of all their videos, although I've found that their wmv files play fine too.

I know, but I always think MP4 has too much macroblocking compared to WMV. The most recent example is the Red Dead Redemption trailer on XBLM versus the PSN's MP4 version - the XBLM version wins. But maybe i'm just being picky.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I hope Sony fights Piracy like MS by banning these ppls and doesnt let PSP's fate into the PS3.

This is what needs to happen. They need to come down hard on this shit.

 

[Lonely1]

So, there's no SNES emulator for Ps3's Linux?

 

[Psychotext]

This is what needs to happen. They need to come down hard on this shit.

They already have the mechanisms to ban consoles... so there's really no reason why they wouldn't.

 

[Solid Moustache]

Well, first off, you're giving Hotz credit for something he hasn't really done yet. All he can do as of now is write and read from the system's memory. He still needs to get the hardware key. Without this, a software exploit(custom firmware) will be impossible. I bet there have been many people, like Hotz, who have been able to read and write to the systems memory.

This, I assume, has never been the hard part. The hard thing is extracting the root decryption key. And the one thing the cell(and MS's Xenon) cpu do well, is protecting this key.

I trust him, he will get that key, he's fucking GeoHotz, if he has to break into Sony's HQs and steal some secret papers Solid Snake-style to get that key, he will do it.

The minority of PS3 owners have/will have PS2 hardware in their PS3, so no emulation and homebrew can't magically fix that.


again, no benefit or at least not one even slightly worth opening the console to pirates.

Well, every ps3 has ps1 software emulation, and just because the minority have ps2-playing PS3s doesn't mean this is worthless. the majority of the people won't be the ones modifying their consoles anyway...

And not the piracy bullshit again jeez -_- *vomits*

 

[Speevy]

And not the piracy bullshit again jeez -_- *vomits*

He says he wants the machine to be used for piracy.

Screw him.

 

[Elan tedronai]

And not the piracy bullshit again jeez -_- *vomits*

didnt you read his comments about piracy? this guy does not care about homebrew

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Oh come on now. Thats what would make you buy a PS3? Really? Not the games themselves or the fact Blu-Rays are incredibly resilient discs. I call pure bullshit there.

And listing the Wii is a completely different scenario. The Wii is region locked and other annoying shit to it where hacking it gives you access to what a 2008- console should. The PS3 is region free, you can have any PSN shop account on there, its got a great media center (imagine if Sony added support for MKV's or youre just lazy to use the Media Center!!). The only benefits here are piracy and MAYBE a PS2 emulator if it exists on there.

PS3 may be region free, but PS2 and PS1 aren't. That's one benefit right there. Living in the UK, I would've loved to have easily imported Devil Summoner 2. Instead I had to buy a £50 PS2 slimline which I modded with a piece of tissue, some sticky tape and a cut up drinking straw. And of course I will have to order the frowned up Swap Magic 3 disc. Frankly, I haven't gotten round to this step yet because of dwindling interest. Region locking does suck.

 

[red shoe paul]

My best news I've heard all day. Thank god and Boston represent!

 

[Alts]

He says he wants the machine to be used for piracy.

Screw him.

Well, that is also a mischaracterization. Rather, he has no problem with his work being used for that goal. He mentioned the desire to ban people from his blog who only are interested in piracy.

 

[Brobzoid]

Are we still on that 'no one is going to download 25GB iso files' gimmick? Go look at the compiled torrents for tv shows. How about long running artists entire discography in FLAC?

Of course people won't be hassled by file size.


And I agree that there is little reason to hack the thing. MKV files doesn't need much in the way of transcoding to run on PS3 and the media center solution is adequate enough. buy a shuttle if you need better.

 

[shuri]

XBMC would be nice.. I'm in the process of converting my entire dvd collection to mkv.. yeee olde xbox is starting to screw up

 

[Beowulf28]

And not the piracy bullshit again jeez -_- *vomits*

So you don't think people would start pirating PS3 games? Yeah maybe some people will use homebrew but piracy will be the biggest thing to come out of this.

 

[Speevy]

Well, that is also a mischaracterization. Rather, he has no problem with his work being used for that goal. He mentioned the desire to ban people from his blog who only are interested in piracy.

If anyone believes modding consoles entitles them to free games, they deserve to have their console bricked.

 

[YoungHav]

For their lack of fixing the YLOD problem, and giving only a 90month warranty for $150, fuck Sony and I'm glad they are being hacked.

 

[Slightly Live]

SNES roms are my limit, thanks - and that's only because my trusty Super Famicom has imploded on itself.

Which is it, TV shows or SNES roms that you're admitting to pirating? Both of which you can purchase on download services on the 3 consoles.

 

[Proc]

Impressive setup he has, too.

Geohot's the real deal.

That makes me want to take apart mine...

I hope something cool comes out of this, I'd rip mine apart on a rainy sunday.

 

[devilhawk]

I hope he does it just to spite the whiners in this thread. And for XBMC.

 

[Cruzader]

So, there's no SNES emulator for Ps3's Linux?

yes there is and wait for it....PCs!!! Install Linux on PS3 and bam!

Some of the ppls celebrating this shit need to get real. Oh you wanna play your MKVs? Use PS3MediaCenter on your PC. Runs flawless. PS3 PSN titles will be hacked too if this goes through. Indie/small/PSN devs will be hit hard if this shit happens. As a gamer this fucking sucks. Dont you all agree?

Yes it would be cool to store your games on the console via some hacking but I will always give up some of those features for better software developers support and great games. Fuck the idea that every console needs to get hacked so you can play your roms and run XBMC.

Edit: ok just to remind a few set of ppls, Im not saying all "hackers" are pirates. Such as those with CFW or custom Firmware on PSP or DS owners. Yes hacking can be good to customize XMB and such and speed up the processor etc. but saying you cant play your MKVs or that you need to play old emulated consoles is getting a little stale since PS3 can pretty much do that without hacking such as installing Linux/PS3Mediaserver.