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[wsippel]

But at what scale?, I've rarely ever seen them.

I'm not into this shit, so I just had to google for a few minutes, but finding new releases seems to be very, very easy. And I'm talking about public webservers - no obscure registration/ invitation only/ Usenet/ IRC stuff. It's almost scary.

 

[Yoritomo]

piracy has always hindered the console or the handheld that is behind the market leader. Like the dreamcast and the psp. I remember during the dreamcast days when my mate would go 'oh man i have seen this awesome game commercial. I am going to download it right now' He must have had truckloads of dreamcast games that were all pirates. And the sad thing was he could afford to buy them all. It was guys like him that ultimately crippled SEGA.

The dreamcast didn't require any hacks at all to run pirated games. I'd also be tempted to point out that EA's abandonment of Sega and sega's history regarding other systems had more to do with their failure than the security mistakes on the Dreamcast.

 

[Vennt]

Funny that, it was Doom_Bringer, now gone... sorry

 

[KAL2006]

MAME, Dreamcast and N64 emulators

with online play would make me get one

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

Funny that, it was Doom_Bringer, now gone... sorry

:lol :lol :lol

Resume business as usual

 

[lowrider007]

I'm not into this shit, so I just had to google for a few minutes, but finding new releases seems to be very, very easy. And I'm talking about public webservers - no obscure registration/ invitation only/ Usenet/ IRC stuff. It's almost scary.

Well I've had a good look around, they don't seem that popular.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

his blog and some of the comments here.

Be careful with your accusations. Many who have done what you just did were banned.

 

[jett]

I knew this would happpen. Doom_Bringer, you so stupid!

 

[wsippel]

Well I've had a good look around, they don't seem that popular.

My Google Fu is better than yours then...

 

[panda21]

by repeated data i just meant i read that they sometimes repeat the data multiple times across the blu-ray disc in clever ways to minimise the seek times for streaming since the drive is very slow compared to a dvd drive.

 

[jett]

HOLY SHIT, Darksiders is 20GB on PS3? I sense a lot of high bitrate FMV's.

Hmm nice on the devs for that. Most 3rd party devs take the lazy-as-fuck route and use the same highly compreseed and macroblocked to hell videos from the 360 versions.

 

[jett]

but on the other hand the majority of ps3 games are probably more like 4/8gb, either because they are multiplatform or to help streaming from the disc, and for the very few that are 25gb its because they have lots of uncompressed data on the disc, or they repeat the data to stream better.

This is not true. For instance, FFXIII, a dual-layered BD game, has 32 GB of FMV. We can see tree structures, you know.

And games don't have uncompressed data, like uncompressed audio. That's ridiculous. Games that fill the blu-ray do it because they need the space for one reason or another.

 

[lowrider007]

My Google Fu is better than yours then...

Maybe it is, anyway it's scary talking about this shit on here (not that I take part in piracy), I think I'm going to back out slowly now

 

[panda21]

This is not true. For instance, FFXIII, a dual-layered BD game, has 32 GB of FMV. We can see tree structures, you know.

And games don't have uncompressed data, like uncompressed audio. That's ridiculous. Games that fill the blu-ray do it because they need the space for one reason or another.

so because FFXIII doesn't do it no other game can? i'm absolutely certain i've seen devs specifically saying they do that to speed up streaming. of course not all of them, but some of them do.

and i'm also pretty certain a number of big ps3 exclusives have had uncompressed 5.1 audio or something stupid like that to 'take advantage' of the disc space. fairly sure heavenly sword and mgs 4 had this.

 

[lowrider007]

so because FFXIII doesn't do it no other game can? i'm absolutely certain i've seen devs specifically saying they do that to speed up streaming. of course not all of them, but some of them do.

and i'm also pretty certain a number of big ps3 exclusives have had uncompressed 5.1 audio or something stupid like that to 'take advantage' of the disc space. fairly sure heavenly sword and mgs 4 had this.

And Resistance Fall of Man if I remember rightly.

 

[dark_chris]

3 years? Does this guy have no life?

 

[jett]

so because FFXIII doesn't do it no other game can? i'm absolutely certain i've seen devs specifically saying they do that to speed up streaming. of course not all of them, but some of them do.

and i'm also pretty certain a number of big ps3 exclusives have had uncompressed 5.1 audio or something stupid like that to 'take advantage' of the disc space. fairly sure heavenly sword and mgs 4 had this.

This is a terrible misconception. MGS4 uses your good 'ol Dolby Digital 5.1 codec.

Some games like the Uncharted ones support PCM for 7.1 channels, but that does not mean that the sound files themselves on the BD are uncompressed.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

3 years? Does this guy have no life?

Yes because that means 24 hours a day .

 

[red shoe paul]

3 years? Does this guy have no life?

Took him all Summer to hack the iPhone and now this. Outside life or not, his name is huge and his rep is going to get bigger. He loves what he does and I can't disagree with him.

 

[avaya]

Be careful with your accusations. Many who have done what you just did were banned.

Anyone hoping for MKV is likely a pirate in my book, don't think I'm too far off from that little assumption. Everything else has a legit basis for it and region free movies are the biggest reason of all. However, let's not kid ourselves, the legit hombrew crowd are completely overshadowed by the legions of "i want it fee and i want it now crowd". If I get banned for saying that then so be it.

 

[nodish2]

So it took 3 years to crack the genius of Ken Kutaragi?

 

[falconzss]

A region free BluRay/DVD/PS1/PS2/PS3 playing console?

I'd die happy.

yeah, that's basically the only thing i'd really really want to see!

 

[Eiji]

Ultimately I hope this allows the Other OS feature to be patched back in to the PS3 Slim or atleast have the hack work on PS3 Slim with Linux access in some form.

I'm having LOTS of fun with my JTAG'd 360 with a nuked hypervisor! :lol

 

[Mr. Luchador]

There's no real benefit to hacking the PS3

Yeah right.

Free PS2 emulation!

 

[Alec]

3 years? Does this guy have no life?

He hasn't been actively working on it for that long...he only really started a little under a month ago.

 

[H_Prestige]

Yeah right.

Free PS2 emulation!

Not even Sony can get an emulator working on the ps3.

 

[SolidusDave]

Yeah right.

Free PS2 emulation!

Yeah right.

Without PS2 hardware available!




Seriously, this gets mention so often here.
People must think Sony just doesn't want to update Slims with the PS2 emulator of the launch models Oo

 

[manzo]

Funny that, it was Doom_Bringer, now gone... sorry

Hahahah, I knew it! :lol

 

[Lethal Jelly]

Anyone hoping for MKV is likely a pirate in my book, don't think I'm too far off from that little assumption. Everything else has a legit basis for it and region free movies are the biggest reason of all. However, let's not kid ourselves, the legit hombrew crowd are completely overshadowed by the legions of "i want it fee and i want it now crowd". If I get banned for saying that then so be it.

I rip my DVD's to MKV...

 

[OldJadedGamer]

And to 'OldJadedGamer', who ever downloaded a full CD ? people are mostly downloading MP3's, that isn't the same thing as downloading a full uncompressed audio CD, I doubt we're going to start seeing compressed PS3 games to download, I honestly don't see piracy becoming a big concern on the PS3 if it ever becomes possible.

My point was that when people were on dial up back in 1999... the thought of downloading an entire CD was unbelievable, let alone a DVD which was unthinkable. It's all stupid thinking and narrow way of thinking and living in just the now.

And lets not be forgetting about bandwidth caps, most people I know around here are capped between 40-100gb, I can't even download all my purchased steam games until next month :-(

Comcast gives 250 gigs... That's about 10 games a month even at full disc size. Then there is the option of removing sound files and movies where a game like MGS4 could lose half it's size and probably more.

Most broadband ISPs in the US don't have bandwidth limits...to my knowledge. I for certain know that I do not have a monthly bandwidth cap.

Comcast has 250gig limit and even on my best downloading months I've never got 225gigs away from that.

 

[SolidusDave]

and i'm also pretty certain a number of big ps3 exclusives have had uncompressed 5.1 audio or something stupid like that to 'take advantage' of the disc space. fairly sure heavenly sword and mgs 4 had this.

uhm so it would be better to not use the space at all?

All (first party, too) developers who don't max out the space of a singlelayer blu-ray fail in my book.
I can understand multiplatform-devs don't want to put(=work on) any extra content in the PS3 version (though making-ofs etc. would be nice, no?), but is it really so hard to use as big(/less compressed) as possible video and audio data??
Of course it could collide with streaming speed but I have mostly CGI and other cutscene stuff in mind.



But this is OT anyway, there is no need for a discussion if BD games would get pirated. Blu-ray movie discs are mostly (?) double-layers and people already download them. Though as with them, this would not be something for the masses (who can easily download the relatively very downsized versions of the raw movie with no need for a high bandwidth, BD burner or large HDDs. It's not so easy for games of course, if only because the PS3 would certainly need something like a modchip)

 

[Yoritomo]

I rip my DVD's to MKV...

Same. Anyone who has a home theater network with a central server does the same.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

Yeah right.

Without PS2 hardware available!




Seriously, this gets mention so often here.
People must think Sony just doesn't want to update Slims with the PS2 emulator of the launch models Oo

I'm sure there'll be a way to install a PS2 emulator like you do on a PC, if the PS3 has finally been 'cracked'.

 

[JADS]

Anyone hoping for MKV is likely a pirate in my book, don't think I'm too far off from that little assumption. Everything else has a legit basis for it and region free movies are the biggest reason of all. However, let's not kid ourselves, the legit hombrew crowd are completely overshadowed by the legions of "i want it fee and i want it now crowd". If I get banned for saying that then so be it.

Believe it or not but some of us live in countries where the downloading of copyrighted material is allowed. Under Dutch law I am allowed to download or copy for personal use:

• Music
• Video
• Books

Computer software and video games are an exception to this law, so is distributing any copyrighted material without permission.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

Believe it or not but some of us live in countries where the downloading of copyrighted material is allowed. Under Dutch law I am allowed to download or copy for personal use:

• Music
• Video
• Books

Computer software and video games are an exception to this law, so is distributing any copyrighted material without permission.

Most Countries allow backups of physically owned goods, its the distribution of them that is forbidden.

 

[Yoritomo]

Most Countries allow backups of physically owned goods, its the distribution of them that is forbidden.

The US is pretty draconian in that regard. According to the DMCA it's illegal for me to rip a DVD I own and convert the file to play on my iPod, since by doing so I'm circumventing a copy protection. No one pays attention to that though.

 

[H_Prestige]

I'm sure there'll be a way to install a PS2 emulator like you do on a PC, if the PS3 has finally been 'cracked'.

PS3 =/= PC

 

[itxaka]

so because FFXIII doesn't do it no other game can? i'm absolutely certain i've seen devs specifically saying they do that to speed up streaming. of course not all of them, but some of them do.

and i'm also pretty certain a number of big ps3 exclusives have had uncompressed 5.1 audio or something stupid like that to 'take advantage' of the disc space. fairly sure heavenly sword and mgs 4 had this.

We will get to the old pc ways of ripping games. No other languajes, speech or fmv. I still cant understand how anybody could play the game like that.

Also the ps2 had cdrips, games originally on DVD that were stripped to fit on a cd. So if anybody thinks that people aré gonna be downloading 25gb games they aré wrong.

 

[SolidusDave]

I'm sure there'll be a way to install a PS2 emulator like you do on a PC, if the PS3 has finally been 'cracked'.

well, do you know the specs of a PC you need for PS2 emulation (well playable & upscaled in high resolutions), in comparison to the PS3s (to make it worse quite different to PCs and PS2s) raw hardware? They are quite high, I will be really surprised if someone could manage this on the PS3 EVER (including Sony themelves).

 

[RavenFox]

Great news, I hope this makes my PS3 play PS2games,region free DVD/BLU RAY player.


SONY NEXT TIME YOU MAKE A CONSOLE TRY AND MAKE IT RIGHT!

WHY have region restrictions, fuck that shit!

Your an idiot if you think that's Sony's fault. Also don't run any company it's doomed to fail.

 

[C.T.]

3 years? Does this guy have no life?

You fail at reading. He got this ps3 1.5 years ago. The hacking took about 5 weeks.

 

[spwolf]

Believe it or not but some of us live in countries where the downloading of copyrighted material is allowed. Under Dutch law I am allowed to download or copy for personal use:

• Music
• Video
• Books

Computer software and video games are an exception to this law, so is distributing any copyrighted material without permission.

You are allowed to copy and download only if you own the product right? It does not stop most ISP's in Netherlands having their own servers where you can get 0 day stuff.

Even here in Eastern Europe, despite laws against it, my cable ISP has ftp server for their users, where they have TB's worth of latest movies, series and games.

Downloading 5-25 GB ISO's is really not an issue these days anymore, regardless of where you live. It will always be cheaper than buying $60/70 Euro game.

Sony will hopefully be at breakeven by the time this comes out in south and eastern europe, because people here sure love their warez. You get chipped PS2's from official Sony retailers ;-)

 

[carlosp]

all i want is windows XP running on my PS3 :lol

But if they manage to do this, would it mean i can play crysis on PS3?

 

[Marty Chinn]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

at all the people who think the PS3 media interface is great and that transcoding is a great solution to everything. Also at the people who think leaving a PC on 24/7 to transcode is a great solution too. Here's one thing that PS3mediaserver can't do. It can't take a DVD ISO and play on the PS3 with full menu support. That's just one of hundreds of things that XBMC can do that the PS3 can't even with PS3mediaserver. You guys really need to see a proper XBMC setup to see how vastly superior it is over the PS3.

 

[SolidusDave]

all i want is windows XP running on my PS3 :lol

But if they manage to do this, would it mean i can play crysis on PS3?

thanks to Sony (for releasing the most out-of-the-box open recent console), that's already possible w/o any hacking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeBtgPeul3Y

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@ Marty Chinn: changing the container format of mkvs as well as burning isos to a DVDR take not much time
Also, no one is saying you should not have these (quite unimportant because easy to bypass) missing features, but are they really worth opening the PS3 for pirates and worse? imo not, it's not like you couldn't download/rip your stuff in a PS3 compatible format from the beginning or buy a HTPC...

 

[neptunes]

thanks to Sony (for releasing the most out-of-the-box open recent console), that's already possible w/o any hacking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeBtgPeul3Y

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@ Marty Chinn: changing the container format of mkvs as well as burning isos to a DVDR take not much time
Also, no one is saying you should not have these features, but are they really worth opening the PS3 for pirates and worse? imo not, it's not like you couldn't download/rip your stuff in a PS3 compatible format from the beginning or buy a HTPC...

Doesn't make much sense for a product that prides itself on doing everything, aside from not being able to wipe between your ass cheeks. Its the way sony positioned their product, they should still be taking steps to improve its multimedia functionality.

 

[JADS]

You are allowed to copy and download only if you own the product right? It does not stop most ISP's in Netherlands having their own servers where you can get 0 day stuff.

Even here in Eastern Europe, despite laws against it, my cable ISP has ftp server for their users, where they have TB's worth of latest movies, series and games.

Downloading 5-25 GB ISO's is really not an issue these days anymore, regardless of where you live. It will always be cheaper than buying $60/70 Euro game.

Sony will hopefully be at breakeven by the time this comes out in south and eastern europe, because people here sure love their warez. You get chipped PS2's from official Sony retailers ;-)

No, ownership is not required except in the case of computer software. You are free to make a single or several copies as long as they are used for your own.

 

[SolidusDave]

Doesn't make much sense for a product that prides itself on doing everything, aside from not being able to wipe between your ass cheeks. Its the way sony positioned their product, they should still be taking steps to improve its multimedia functionality.

Yeah, they surely had people in mind who insist on only using mkv containers and DVDisos when they made that (btw American) slogan as well as people really expecting it to do all that because of the commercials :lol

(and actually fat PS3 can play mkvs etc. under Linux, so... slogan redeemed! ^^)

 

[Marty Chinn]

thanks to Sony (for releasing the most out-of-the-box open recent console), that's already possible w/o any hacking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeBtgPeul3Y

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@ Marty Chinn: changing the container format of mkvs as well as burning isos to a DVDR take not much time
Also, no one is saying you should not have these (quite unimportant because easy to bypass) missing features, but are they really worth opening the PS3 for pirates and worse? imo not, it's not like you couldn't download/rip your stuff in a PS3 compatible format from the beginning or buy a HTPC...

Wait, why would I take my DVDs, rip them but then to only burn them back to a DVDR? The whole point is to rip my DVDs that I bought and store them on my network storage so that they are available to access in multiple rooms without having to go to a specific room to grab the DVD. It's my DVD collection on the network accessable in any room with full DVD menu support. A PS3 does not support that in its current state while any number of flavors of XBMC does including a soft modded Xbox which you can pick up for less than $40 now. Plus, tell me, how do I rip my DVDs with full menu support into a PS3 compatible format?

And how can you say they are unimportant features? How about the simple idea of content scraping for full details of what you're watching? I'd hardly say that's a useless feature or unimportant. How about a nice visual interface of covers for movies? While not something that prevents you from watching, it's a nice way to browse and find what you want instead of having to read every title listed.