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[Pug]

Gofreak, that not quite true if Bill Gates is to be believed that MS will have 4.5 million units on the market by the summer. Remember production is going to be an issue for Sony also, if it wants to make sure its units arn't in the short supply the 360 was/is they better start prodcution before March and thats just to make sure they have enough units for Japan.

 

[Prine]

There were E3 renders - everyone went "whoa!", "eat shit & die 360!", cool, and after E3 a desert of nothingness.

yep, and i was playing that e3 render last night on my X360

CAnt get over how amazing FN03 looks.

 

[monkeymagic]

yeah, sort of. People are talking about the current 360 state as in there are tons of games out for it and all you have to do is go down to the store and pick one up with some games. The truth of the matter is that you CAN'T typically buy one anywhere, have to call around to stores practically everyday to find out when shipments come in, and then when a shipment comes in have to get to the store by later afternoon or so to get a non-tard pack. then after all is said and done, you still have a launch lineup that leaves a ton of glaring holes for most (the only game I could pick up was COD2.. everything else was beyond apathy).

So yea, the 360 is launched... but let's stop acting like it's some sort of slap in the face of sony. the launch was far from great, many people who pre-ordered the system are STILL without it, and frankly with only ~8 months to go(?) for PS3 if I was a pre-order screwee, I wouldn't even give it half a thought to transfer my paid-in-full 3360 pre-order to the PS3 at this point.

Just giving a counterpoint. I love my 360 for COD2 and the FN3 demo, but it is hardly all roses and the PS3 might be just 8 months or so away.

I agree completely.

Every month that X360 shipments continue to be ludicrously low is another month Sony can delay PS3 by whilst at the same time stock piling units for staggered launches.

MS' global launch, yield, and shipment problems are all working in their favour.

I would suspect that if X360 sales hit NDS levels then Sony would be concerned about delays right now.

 

[borghe]

"1st half 2006" and "Spring 2006" arent exactly the same . But still, assumptions are all we're working with on both accounts. Works both ways.

actually you are partialy incorrect. 1H 2006 ends only 8-9 days after spring 2006 does. conceivably the only way to launch in 1H 2006 and no tmake spring 2006 is to either launch before March 22nd or between June 21st and June 30th.

 

[PhatSaqs]

actually you are partialy incorrect. 1H 2006 ends only 8-9 days after spring 2006 does. conceivably the only way to launch in 1H 2006 and no tmake spring 2006 is to either launch before March 22nd or between June 21st and June 30th.

You forgot to point out where my statement is partially incorrect.

 

[borghe]

in the odds/percentages. while what you are saying is factually true, what you are implying is probably false. unless they release the PS3 in those 9 days, it will be released in Spring 2006.

 

[kaching]

"1st half 2006" and "Spring 2006" arent exactly the same .

They're the same in fact that they both take us to the midpoint of 2006. Its the line drawn in the sand between die hard Sony breeds like myself and everyone else.

But still, assumptions are all we're working with on both accounts. Works both ways.

Uh, yeah, but not all of us are making lazy, knee-jerk assumptions, which was my original point.

 

[gofreak]

Gofreak, that not quite true if Bill Gates is to be believed that MS will have 4.5 million units on the market by the summer.

My point remains. I don't think those kind of numbers would be of massive concern to Sony. And I'm talking about to date - supply has been very restricted. If we're talking about Sony building up the PR to deter X360 purchases, by the summer, you'll know all about PS3 (and so will the prospective purchasers of those remaining 3.2m X360s, or however many are left to go by the time Sony cranks things up).

My point is that IF Sony were particularly worried by what they were seeing on the X360 side, they'd have been louder and prouder about PS3 over the holidays etc.

 

[Ben Sones]

You forgot to point out where my statement is partially incorrect.

Your implication was that changing from "spring 2006" to "first half of 2006" represents a significant pushback of the release date. It doesn't, because spring of 2006 ends in June, which is halfway through the year.

 

[Arsynic]

NO

FUCKING

SHIT.

Who the fuck didn't see that coming? Wow, PS3 won't be released in the slowest selling period of the year???? Wow, PS3 won't be launched in the US BEFORE E3??? Holy fucking shit, I never would've guessed!!!!...bleh.

Japan's could still get theirs in June, and probably will...but the idea of Sony releasing PS3 in North America anytime before September '06 was ALWAYS nothing but fantasy. Big fucking deal I say.

PS3 is basically following PS2's schedule...Sony's game has been pretty clear all along.

Fuck that. Last week I posted that PS3 wouldn't launch in March and got swarmed for being a "troll". So many fuckers jumped on me and called me anti-Sony that it led to me being banned for trolling.

So some are pretending like this shit is common sense when in all actuality when someone outside of Sony said this, they were "anti-Sony". I know for a fact that some GAFFERS actually believed that this thing was going to drop in March.

Sometimes frenzied cronie-ism can trump logical thinking and the mob mentality is the rule of the day.

 

[Vibri]

As usual, a total bullshit fluff story from Spunk. Last time I heard, June = 'later this year'.

As is December. As is August. In other words, they took a deliberately vague statement and made something up for the cheap headline.

 

[Amir0x]

Fuck that. Last week I posted that PS3 wouldn't launch in March and got swarmed for being a "troll". So many fuckers jumped on me and called me anti-Sony that it led to me being banned for trolling.

So some are pretending like this shit is common sense when in all actuality when someone outside of Sony said this, they were "anti-Sony". I know for a fact that some GAFFERS actually believed that this thing was going to drop in March.

Sometimes frenzied cronie-ism can trump logical thinking and the mob mentality is the rule of the day.

Link to this event so I can evaluate this so-called wrongdoing.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Uh, yeah, but not all of us are making lazy, knee-jerk assumptions, which was my original point.

Lazy, knee-jerk assumptions = Heart of GAF. And again, I hardly consider you in the die-hard Sony breed.

Your implication was that changing from "spring 2006" to "first half of 2006" represents a significant pushback of the release date. It doesn't, because spring of 2006 ends in June, which is halfway through the year.

Regardless of the exactness of it all, it was a play on preciseness with kachings words (did you all note the word "EXACTLY" or my tongue sticking out?). Yall are touchy as hell on this subject....

Anyway, the fact remains we still have no clear idea when the PS3 is launching. Some assume Spring 2006 cuz Sony said so. Others assume not from rumors and lack of press.
Pick your side and engage :lol.

 

[kaching]

Last week I posted that PS3 wouldn't launch in March and got swarmed for being a "troll". So many fuckers jumped on me and called me anti-Sony that it led to me being banned for trolling.

:lol Last week you tied your position that it wouldn't launch in March to a snarky rendition of Sony fanboys rife with generalization. You were called out for your generalizations, NOT the fact that you believed the PS3 wouldn't launch by March. You were in denial about making the generalization and in rare form across a number of threads, which is what got you banned, NOT because of your position on when the PS3 is likely to launch.

 

[Arsynic]

Link to this event so I can evaluate this so-called wrongdoing.

Dude, you were in the thread too. But I'll let it go.

My point is that if anyone said that the PS3 won't launch in March and that it was just a Sony scare tactic, they would be derided as a troll. There are even false dichotomies in this thread as well. One poster basically said: If you didn't think the PS3 would be coming out in March then you didn't want it to and therefore you're an Xbox fanboy.

Let's not pretend like this was common sense...it wasn't. There were people who WANTED to believe that this console would launch in March even though it hasn't had a proper showing. I'm not accusing everyone here of that, because there are a few level-headed posters here, but there are those who would respond to logic with vitriol.

To change the pace a little, Sony has been kinda quiet lately. This isn't the same company that we saw at E3. I don't see how they could unleash a huge PR machine to counter the Xbox 360 unveiling which was basically underwhelming, but they remained silent during the overwhelming launch. I literally couldn't do anything without hearing "Xbox 360" in the later part of last year. It was damn near mass hysteria, yet Sony remains quiet while they came out in full force after Wall Guy, Frodo and friends unvielded the Xbox 360. If Sony had something to show, they would show it, that's my thinking. But since, we're expecting a PS3 blowout next month, I'll mute my concerns a bit.

At any rate, I'll want to witness history in the making on these very boards when the PS Conference lands. Anyway you put it, there will be rejoicing and laughter, weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[DarienA]

Dude, you were in the thread too. But I'll let it go.

Can you please post a link to the thread? I'd like to read it.

...and unlike MS, Sony has to thread a balancing line of not hurting sales of their cash cow PS2 and continuing to promote the PSP as well as figure out how to ease in the PS3 hype.

 

[SolidSnakex]

To change the pace a little, Sony has been kinda quiet lately. This isn't the same company that we saw at E3.

It isn't? You mean the same company that came out of nowhere at E3 to show much more than anyone expected? Go back and check the stories questioning whether or not the PS3 would even appear at E3. There were many of them so it won't be hard to find. This is Sony, anyone that's followed them knows that this is what they do. They go silent and let the hype build on its own and then unleash whatever they have. It's not anything strange.

 

[kaching]

Lazy, knee-jerk assumptions = Heart of GAF.

You plead the lemming defense all too often, Phat

I can't say it any clearer than this - I choose not to conform.

Yall are touchy as hell on this subject....

Not really, its just that your punchline was lame.

Anyway, the fact remains we still have no clear idea when the PS3 is launching. Some assume Spring 2006 cuz Sony said so. Others assume not from rumors and lack of press. Pick your side and engage :lol.

My assumptions are not that Spring 2006 is a lock but I give it at least even odds, and not just "cuz Sony said so". There *have* been indications that they've been hewing fairly closely to their announced schedule, there's the fact that the last time they officially delayed a piece of hardware from the originally announced release timeframe (PSP) they gave about 9-10 months notice and there's the fact that PS3 is tied in no small part to the rollout of Blu-ray, which is beginning in the first half of this year against an aggressive format competitor in the form of HD-DVD.

 

[Arsynic]

It isn't? You mean the same company that came out of nowhere at E3 to show much more than anyone expected? Go back and check the stories questioning whether or not the PS3 would even appear at E3. There were many of them so it won't be hard to find. This is Sony, anyone that's followed them knows that this is what they do. They go silent and let the hype build on its own and then unleash whatever they have. It's not anything strange.

Did the PS2 or the PSP have this kind of media black-out? The fact that Sony's still showing the same tired demos from E3 irks me a bit. But like I said, I'll really reserve my judgement until next month's Playstation Conference.

 

[marc^o^]

It isn't? You mean the same company that came out of nowhere at E3 to show much more than anyone expected? Go back and check the stories questioning whether or not the PS3 would even appear at E3. There were many of them so it won't be hard to find. This is Sony, anyone that's followed them knows that this is what they do. They go silent and let the hype build on its own and then unleash whatever they have. It's not anything strange.

QFT. Plus the more they would talk about the PS3, the more it would put focus on next gen consoles, x360 being the only one available (well, sort of). That would be a bad business decision.

 

[DCharlie]

"It isn't? You mean the same company that came out of nowhere at E3 to show much more than anyone expected? Go back and check the stories questioning whether or not the PS3 would even appear at E3. There were many of them so it won't be hard to find. This is Sony, anyone that's followed them knows that this is what they do. They go silent and let the hype build on its own and then unleash whatever they have. It's not anything strange."

agreed - although in some cases , they unleash what they DON'T have (E3) and let their fanboys go crazy!

 

[SolidSnakex]

Did the PS2 or the PSP have this kind of media black-out? The fact that Sony's still showing the same tired demos from E3 irks me a bit. But like I said, I'll really reserve my judgement until next month's Playstation Conference.

Yes, its a common practice for Sony. They more than any other company like to take advantage of the media's hype by sitting back and letting them give free marketing to whatever system Sony has. It's not a big deal really, i'd be more worried if they were shooting out info left and right because that'd mean they were trying a different tactic than what's worked for them for years.

 

[Gattsu25]

Can you please post a link to the thread? I'd like to read it.

...and unlike MS, Sony has to thread a balancing line of not hurting sales of their cash cow PS2 and continuing to promote the PSP as well as figure out how to ease in the PS3 hype.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=2493043#post2493043
That might be the thread or it could be
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=2492039#post2492039

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Just wait until Feb. to see if Sony shat the bed with the PS3. 'Tis all.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Flash back to this time last year, when people were saying the same damn thing about the PSP. Yeah you know...my ass. No one knows jack nor shit about when the machine will launch. Saying that NA in the Spring isn't gonna happen is based on absolutely nothing. Sony's launched a few systems in this same exact manner, leaving launch announcements until late in the day. They have two platforms that are still contending right now. The PS2 is still supposed to move some 14M units globally this year. Sony isn't exactly going to shoot themselves in the foot to fight a battle that honestly doesn't matter right now. The 360 isn't available in any significant quantities to make a difference at present, and is a non-issue in Japan (the territory everyone seems convinced will be the only Spring launch).

Q3 earnings have to be announed soon. If Sony provides earnings projections for the following fiscal year (and I think they give preliminary projections before giving firm projections with the annual report in early-April), we can then decipher what's likely, and what's not.

Prior to the PS2 launch, there was tons of scuttlebutt about bugs in the hw, and productions/yield problems. To this day, the 980,000 units shipped in March 00 is still the biggest console launch on record. The launch lineup didn't matter a whole hell of a lot then, and it's not like the NA launch lineup was drastically different from that of the JP one 7 months prior. So what's really different now? Spring goes top June, technically. So even if you want to pull the tired line argument about playable game demos, they are still sitting nicely in the window to make the launch. There was about 6 months from TGS '99 to the PS2 launch in March. From the Feb show to the end of Spring is still only 4-5 months, depending on the week it is scheduled. It will also be a full year from the PS3 unveiling at E3 to the launch, exactly the same as the PS2.

I'm not saying it's conclusive or that I believe one way or another, but trying to pass off this random guesstimation as fact or even common sense, when the supporting evidence is non-existent is just plain stupid. PEACE.

 

[Amir0x]

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=2493043#post2493043
That might be the thread or it could be
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=2492039#post2492039

Oh, now I remember. That's the day Arsynic went to like 3 threads and just made the most ridiculous, illogical statements and said if you thought "X" you were a fanboy, a sort of failed case of "Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider
the rafter in your own eye?"

 

[Pimpwerx]

Dude, you were in the thread too. But I'll let it go.

My point is that if anyone said that the PS3 won't launch in March and that it was just a Sony scare tactic, they would be derided as a troll. There are even false dichotomies in this thread as well. One poster basically said: If you didn't think the PS3 would be coming out in March then you didn't want it to and therefore you're an Xbox fanboy.

Let's not pretend like this was common sense...it wasn't. There were people who WANTED to believe that this console would launch in March even though it hasn't had a proper showing. I'm not accusing everyone here of that, because there are a few level-headed posters here, but there are those who would respond to logic with vitriol.

To change the pace a little, Sony has been kinda quiet lately. This isn't the same company that we saw at E3. I don't see how they could unleash a huge PR machine to counter the Xbox 360 unveiling which was basically underwhelming, but they remained silent during the overwhelming launch. I literally couldn't do anything without hearing "Xbox 360" in the later part of last year. It was damn near mass hysteria, yet Sony remains quiet while they came out in full force after Wall Guy, Frodo and friends unvielded the Xbox 360. If Sony had something to show, they would show it, that's my thinking. But since, we're expecting a PS3 blowout next month, I'll mute my concerns a bit.

At any rate, I'll want to witness history in the making on these very boards when the PS Conference lands. Anyway you put it, there will be rejoicing and laughter, weeping and gnashing of teeth.

This is a terrible strawman for the following reason: anyone with a shred of common sense knows that in order to make it out in March, the PS3 revenue would have to be provided in earnings projections. The fiscal year ends on thr 31st of March, and thus we would already know shipping quantities and would be able to extrapolate potential revenue based on PSP and PS2 totals. PEACE.

 

[RidgeCityFM]

in all honesty i dont even think the ps3 will be playable as in on the floor at e3. Behind the scenes and by appointment only for media and thats it. MAYBE a couple kiosk running demos of 1 game like say tekken or GT5 (kinda like how the psp was revealed at e3 with 2 games on the floor). There was a report in the paper today about how BR players wont be on shelves until september. If ps3 happens to not be on the floor at e3 with a MAJOR playable presence for all attendees that will leave a negative impression.

Sony made a big mistake with this one IMO. With stuff like Fight Night 3 proving that the 360 does indeed have some muscle so early in the game, by the time ps3 hits it may really be too late. 360 games will look amazing, By Christmas this year/ps3 launch period the 360 wont have a bunch of ports and leftovers but a robust library of games made to take advantage of the hardware. Not to mention consumer mindshare and support.

This part probably doesnt belong in this topic but with the whole BR/HD DVD war doing on that may just hurt the ps3 more than help. If BR players do indeed hit stores before the ps3 and are seen as a worthless jump in tech, no ones gonna wanna jump on a ps3 just because it features BR. ps2 had a positive with DVD. ps3 may not have that luxury. Hell even in the name HD DVD just may sound like more of a successor to DVD that Blu Ray in the consumer mind. Average joe will be all WTF is a blue ray? I like my new HD set and i liked my DVDs lets go HD DVD. silly but hey.

 

[monkeyrun]

If they released this spring with BR tech they would take a HUGE loss.... they need to wait until costs come down. I think pricing is the main point for the delay of THE MONSTER. :lol 360 = BEAST PS3 = MONSTER.

in order for blu-ray drive cost to come down, it has to be popular first, due to the fact that a majority of the cost is in R&D.

You do not wait a few months for something to be popular, you wait for years. by your logic, PS3 will be released in 2007-2008 .

 

[Amir0x]

in all honesty i dont even think the ps3 will be playable as in on the floor at e3. Behind the scenes and by appointment only for media and thats it. MAYBE a couple kiosk running demos of 1 game like say tekken or GT5 (kinda like how the psp was revealed at e3 with 2 games on the floor). There was a report in the paper today about how BR players wont be on shelves until september. If ps3 happens to not be on the floor at e3 with a MAJOR playable presence for all attendees that will leave a negative impression.

Sony made a big mistake with this one IMO. With stuff like Fight Night 3 proving that the 360 does indeed have some muscle so early in the game, by the time ps3 hits it may really be too late. 360 games will look amazing, By Christmas this year/ps3 launch period the 360 wont have a bunch of ports and leftovers but a robust library of games made to take advantage of the hardware. Not to mention consumer mindshare and support.

This part probably doesnt belong in this topic but with the whole BR/HD DVD war doing on that may just hurt the ps3 more than help. If BR players do indeed hit stores before the ps3 and are seen as a worthless jump in tech, no ones gonna wanna jump on a ps3 just because it features BR. ps2 had a positive with DVD. ps3 may not have that luxury. Hell even in the name HD DVD just may sound like more of a successor to DVD that Blu Ray in the consumer mind. Average joe will be all WTF is a blue ray? I like my new HD set and i liked my DVDs lets go HD DVD. silly but hey.

uh huh. and you gained that PS3 is barely even gonna have a playable presence at E3 because, uh, it didn't have a big showing at CES which Sony said from day one was gonna happen? Even though it had a fucking towering presentation at even E3 2005? So, two E3s without major playable showing? Do you want to bet on this or something? So where are you gaining your knowledge from, besides the whole 'god damn i wish this shit would happen' part?

 

[xaosslug]

"1st half 2006" and "Spring 2006" arent exactly the same . But still, assumptions are all we're working with on both accounts. Works both ways.

actually, i think it is, because Spring ends in June... the sixth month of the year. there are twelve months in a year.

 

[Koshiro]

NO

FUCKING

SHIT.

Speaking as a former Sega-zealot, this quote is completely true. You are an idiot if you are still fooled by Sony's games, of this variety especially.

 

[bishoptl]

Here come the owls!!!!

Where are my owls??

You won't be getting any games to play on PS3 at the very least until AFTER SUMMER. And if they launch THIS YEAR it'll be like N64 launch, two or three games tops.

Um...

 

[teiresias]

in all honesty i dont even think the ps3 will be playable as in on the floor at e3. Behind the scenes and by appointment only for media and thats it. MAYBE a couple kiosk running demos of 1 game like say tekken or GT5 (kinda like how the psp was revealed at e3 with 2 games on the floor). There was a report in the paper today about how BR players wont be on shelves until september. If ps3 happens to not be on the floor at e3 with a MAJOR playable presence for all attendees that will leave a negative impression.

Sony made a big mistake with this one IMO. With stuff like Fight Night 3 proving that the 360 does indeed have some muscle so early in the game, by the time ps3 hits it may really be too late. 360 games will look amazing, By Christmas this year/ps3 launch period the 360 wont have a bunch of ports and leftovers but a robust library of games made to take advantage of the hardware. Not to mention consumer mindshare and support.

This part probably doesnt belong in this topic but with the whole BR/HD DVD war doing on that may just hurt the ps3 more than help. If BR players do indeed hit stores before the ps3 and are seen as a worthless jump in tech, no ones gonna wanna jump on a ps3 just because it features BR. ps2 had a positive with DVD. ps3 may not have that luxury. Hell even in the name HD DVD just may sound like more of a successor to DVD that Blu Ray in the consumer mind. Average joe will be all WTF is a blue ray? I like my new HD set and i liked my DVDs lets go HD DVD. silly but hey.

This post has literally leeched brain-cells out of my skull since its in such dire need of some intelligence - and trust me, if its leeching off of me for intelligence you KNOW it's desperate!

 

[RidgeCityFM]

uh huh. and you gained that PS3 is barely even gonna have a presence at E3 because, uh, it didn't have a big showing at CES which Sony said from day one was gonna happen? Even though it had a fucking towering presentation at even E3 2004? So, two E3s without major playable showing? Do you want to bet on this or something? So where are you gaining your knowledge from, besides the whole 'god damn i wish this shit would happen' part?

i didnt say not have a presence. I said the actual playable stuff wont be on the floor for the mass attendees. Look at how both the PSP and 360 launched at e3 as an example. Sony had a HUGE PSP booth but it was all walk thru with non playable systems all over running video and then the hotshots and tales playable demos. Huge presence, not much as far as playable. Look at 360. again huge presence but not much playable. Most of the stuff was being played by staff or demo'd on huge screens. Look back at halo 2 and e3. nothing on the floor for the masses but appointments for media.

I'm not going just by CES but just how e3 has been changing and it seeming like the ps3 is off schedule. We'll just have to see how the playstation event in february plays out.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I'm not going just by CES but just how e3 has been changing and it seeming like the ps3 is off schedule. We'll just have to see how the playstation event in february plays out.

How is it off schedule? Look at that timeline that's been posted in several threads. From the looks of it, they're on schedule. As far as playables go, we aready know that UT2007 is already very playable.

In a classic segue into "the really cool stuff," Polge quickly talked about the weapons being familiar, but enhanced, then got down to one of the major elements that could make UT2007 the PS3's online killer app: its vehicles. 'We're really innovating most with the vehicles," explained Polge. "We think it's something that will really translate well to teh console. It's actually one case where console controller is actually better suited for gameplay." (No, Epic Games doesn't have a PS3 boomerang controller - no one does - we controlled the dev kit with a stock dual shock 2).

Yes, the game is targeted to run at 1280x720, a.k.a. 720p resolution if you have a high-definition display. We asked Epic Games vice president Mark Rein, who was also present at the demo, about the target frame rate. “It’s simply too early to say, but we’re aiming for it to be as high as possible,” he responded. For the record, the 720p, totally un-optimized build running on hardware less powerful than the final PS3 spec was clipping along at 49fps.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=74992&highlight=psm

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Stringer simply said that Sony's new machine will debut 'later this year', leading many to believe that SCE has abandoned its original launch plans. Indeed, there is the belief emerging that Sony never intended to launch in spring, merely offering the period to consumers in an attempt to distract them from Microsoft's frenzied Xbox 360 launch.

"...leading many to believe..."
"...there is a belief emerging..."


way to be vague as fuck, Sponge.

 

[Wollan]

Where are my owls??

The owls are not what they seem.

And now, a secret from Special Agent Dale Cooper:

Every day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait on it but just let it happen.
For example, a coffee at a diner or a nap in your office chair.

 

[Amir0x]

I'm not going just by CES but just how e3 has been changing and it seeming like the ps3 is off schedule. We'll just have to see how the playstation event in february plays out.

Actually everything we've seen leads us to believe it IS on schedule, besides some trickling rumours about certain dev kits not being sent out exactly on time from ONE developer, and nobody willing to commit to a release date at CES.

But, no no... feel free to make up shit as we go along. It's better to go off of rumours rather than the actual factual info we have anyway.

 

[Mrbob]

PS3 is directly on schedule, or near it, according to the Sony guidelines.

Playstation Festival will be to show off the launch Japan titles when the system comes out between April/June 2006.

E3 will be for the western launch titles when the PS3 comes out around September/October 2006.

 

[xaosslug]

what is wrong with them Sony? they shoulda just ww launched in Nov. and then again in Dec., killed off the PS2 early and up-ported all their PS2 stuff. nextgen am mediocrity and settling! why wait for BR? it's just for movies anyway. why not release an add hoc BR player later 2006. then those that want one can buy one. people like choices.

but then...

 

[RidgeCityFM]

Actually everything we've seen leads us to believe it IS on schedule, besides some trickling rumours about certain dev kits not being sent out exactly on time from ONE developer, and nobody willing to commit to a release date at CES.

But, no no... feel free to make up shit as we go along. It's better to go off of rumours rather than the actual factual info we have anyway.

still seems off to me. Just as an example take the 360s timeline which was rushed. e3 05 had the final system, the final controller, specs iirc and some "playable" games and demos. 6 months before the actual launch. Its now 6 months before the end of spring and the ps3 system design is still concept, the controller is MIA, no one really knows whats going on with the specs and besides unreal which has been running in some form since e3 05, nothing much has been confirmed playable. I mean refresh my memory. How'd the ps2 launch work? I could swear there was much more complete and much more buzz for the system around this time than whats known and concrete for the ps3.

 

[Vince]

This post has literally leeched brain-cells out of my skull since its in such dire need of some intelligence - and trust me, if its leeching off of me for intelligence you KNOW it's desperate!

Masterful.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

still seems off to me. Just as an example take the 360s timeline which was rushed. e3 05 had the final system, the final controller, specs iirc and some "playable" games and demos. 6 months before the actual launch. Its now 6 months before the end of spring and the ps3 system design is still concept, the controller is MIA, no one really knows whats going on with the specs and besides unreal which has been running in some form since e3 05, nothing much has been confirmed playable. I mean refresh my memory. How'd the ps2 launch work? I could swear there was much more complete and much more buzz for the system around this time than whats known and concrete for the ps3.

Don't worry kid, all will be shown next month.

and read this again

It isn't? You mean the same company that came out of nowhere at E3 to show much more than anyone expected? Go back and check the stories questioning whether or not the PS3 would even appear at E3. There were many of them so it won't be hard to find. This is Sony, anyone that's followed them knows that this is what they do. They go silent and let the hype build on its own and then unleash whatever they have. It's not anything strange.

 

[Elios83]

It seems,against all the recent speculation, that Sony is on schedule with their plans for PS3 launch.
Since wild guessing has proven to be useless I'm just going to wait for the february conference,maybe we'll be surprised

 

[DenogginizerOS]

It seems,against all the recent speculation, that Sony is on schedule with their plans for PS3 launch.
Since wild guessing has proven to be useless I'm just going to wait for the february conference,maybe we'll be surprised

I agree, except, I think the idea of a North American release which was perpetuated by many news organziations in North America as being March is completely out of the question and the vagueness of the March date gave some in NA false hope or a reason to wait and get an X360.

 

[SolidSnakex]

still seems off to me. Just as an example take the 360s timeline which was rushed. e3 05 had the final system, the final controller, specs iirc and some "playable" games and demos.

Here's a difference between the PS3's upcoming E3 and the 360's, when the 360 debuted none of the games were running on final dev kits, when the PS3 shows up at this years E3 there will be many games running on it. Guerrilla's has basically said that they already have their kits (while not saying specifically as to avoid any NDA troubles). So some devs will have almost 5 months to work on final kits for the PS3 to show off their games at E3.

Its now 6 months before the end of spring and the ps3 system design is still concept, the controller is MIA, no one really knows whats going on with the specs and besides unreal which has been running in some form since e3 05, nothing much has been confirmed playable.

Doesn't really mean much that the public doesn't know anything about that. Sony's going to keep companies up to date on that stuff before we have knowledge of it.

How'd the ps2 launch work? I could swear there was much more complete and much more buzz for the system around this time than whats known and concrete for the ps3.

It was basically the same. Sony isn't in a rush or anything. Look at all the hype surrounding the system already and look how little Sony has done. They really haven't even begun to hype it.

 

[Goreomedy]

Information about Xbox 360 was leaking out of Microsoft's camp like it was a fucking colander.

With Sony's information control, strict NDAs and ninjas that enforce them, anyone who even thinks about revealing a juicy nugget finds the blade of a sword tickling their adam's apple.

Silence on Sony's end right now somehow backs up a SP0NGE rumor? For fucks sake, people. They're just doing a better job.

 

[kaching]

I agree, except, I think the idea of a North American release which was perpetuated by many news organziations in North America as being March is completely out of the question and the vagueness of the March date gave some in NA false hope or a reason to wait and get an X360.

I assume you mean PS3 at the end there. Frankly, anybody that was so willing to accept unconfirmed reports of the PS3 release schedule as justification to wait probably were people who weren't that likely to go for that X360 in the first place.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

I assume you mean PS3 at the end there. Frankly, anybody that was so willing to accept unconfirmed reports of the PS3 release schedule as justification to wait probably were people who weren't that likely to go for that X360 in the first place.

I meant to finish that as get an X360 at a later date. But you are right about people putting too much faith in the March release. The difficulty of finding an X360 pissed a lot of my friends off, and yet they today are still trying to find one. Many of them acknowledge that the PS3 will likely be bought by them at some time, but a March date had little to do with them getting an X360. Hell, considering the demand is so high for X360 right now, imagine what it would be if the PS3 were coming in 2007. I just think that Sony didn't need or want to rush out and clarify information with those that were perpetuating a March release in the US. Perhaps it will still come out in March? Seriously, if people went home tonight and heard the PS3 will be out next week, there would be a major stampede of people heading towards consumer electronics stores.

Sony needs not to tell the people months in advance what they are up to; their Playstation brand name is just that good.