PS3s are not welcome in French prisons

May 8, 2011
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The PlayStation 3 is not welcome in French cells
Wanna play Prison Break?

Does prisoner have the right to own and use a video game console in his cell? Yes, says French law, but under certain conditions. An inmate who claimed that the administration gives him back his PlayStation 3 has thus paid the price. Explanations below.

Prisoner since at least December 2009, Mr. B. is allowed to use his PlayStation 3 in his cell. Except that in January 2010, the inmate is transferred to the Fresnes prison, where the administration refuses to return his video game console. Reason given: the device does not comply with the safety regulations in force within the institution. In September 2010, the prisoner moved again, and this time take the direction of the central house of Arles.
October 8, 2010, the prisoner asked the warden to give him his PlayStation 3. But three days later, it rejects the request, leading Mr. B. to challenge that refusal before the administrative court of Marseille, in order to obtain the annulment of that decision.

However, the trial judge did not hear it that way, because they have rejected the complainant on 31 May 2011. The detainee has nevertheless continued until appeal, where he has just suffered another setback. The Fifth Chamber of the Administrative Court of Appeal of Marseille, in a decision dated February 28, 2013, has indeed held that "the director of the Central House of Arles could quite take the contested decision on the basis of the circular of 13 October 2009 , which allows him to deny an inmate who is transferred within the facility to keep in his cell a games console when it believes that this console is a connecting console may cause security problems. "

A question of order and security

It appears that Article D449-1 of the Code of Criminal Procedure provides that "prisoners can acquire (...) computer equipment," such as video game consoles, but that "the equipment and data they contain are under the control of the administration. " The same article states that "any computer equipment belonging to a prisoner may (...) be retained, to be returned to him at the time of his release," especially "for reasons of order and security."

In short: the director is free to prohibit an inmate to use a video game console, since it believes that it may present a problem or security (communication with the outside or between prisoners .. .). Or in this case, the PlayStation 3 Mr. B. has been audited by the prison administration, which "failed to ensure the inhibition of prohibited technologies", are the judges. For instance, the SONY console has native Wi-fi connectivity.

In addition, it appears that a note prepared in July 2010 by the Direction of Prisons evaluated game consoles last generation, which includes the PlayStation 3. The note "showed that even if a console is not vulnerable at a given time, it may become later, after undergoing software modifications not intended by the manufacturer," wrote the Court of Appeal. However, it should be noted that the Xbox 360 Arcade and Elite are not concerned about them, since they "do not include communication interfaces default wireless and are spared from the perspective of software changes not covered by the manufacturer."
Source: http://www.pcinpact.com/news/78904-la-playstation-3-nest-pas-bienvenue-dans-cellules-francaises.htm

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affic...EXT000027149292&fastReqId=748097717&fastPos=1
 
Jun 22, 2012
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an Xbox would be ok, though, right ?

i find it amazing that he would go to court many times because he wants a ps3 and no other console.
I only own a ps3 and am really not interested in an Xbox but i would get one rather than spending time in court and risk getting nothing at all
 
Aug 9, 2009
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We all know he would have hacked a native OS that would duel boot, use the Wi-Fi to unlock the cells causing a prison riot.

He'd control the SOP system disarming the guards, and making his own escape.. Inspired after playing metal gear solid 4.
 
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Wtf they are in fucking prison.

They should have little to no entertainment.

If I had it my way I would provide them books and only books but with a twist.

The final chapter would be ripped off every book so the scumbags are stuck in prison wondering how their book ends. Driving them insane.
 
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Is it sad that I find prison to be preferable if I can just game like that guy? I hate responsibility and all that shit, so I wouldn't mind murdering someone and just game for the rest of my life.

Yeah, I'm insane.
 
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Wtf they are in fucking prison.

They should have little to no entertainment.

If I had it my way I would provide them books and only books but with a twist.

The final chapter would be ripped off every book so the scumbags are stuck in prison wondering how their book ends. Driving them insane.
Yeah, Prison is designed to be a form of Torture. Not to protect civilians. You hurt me I hurt you? Prisons can't be too nice because of the cost that would involve. But intentionally trying to damage prisoners and make them want to hate society more by the time of release? That's unreasonable.
 
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Next time he asks for his PS3, smash it in front of him and lock him up in a concrete cell with no windows , no bed, not toilet. Just concrete everywhere.
 

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Wtf they are in fucking prison.

They should have little to no entertainment.

If I had it my way I would provide them books and only books but with a twist.

The final chapter would be ripped off every book so the scumbags are stuck in prison wondering how their book ends. Driving them insane.
The point of prison is part punishment, but part rehabilitation as well. I'd rather have inmates play games, then do crazy shit to each other out of boredom.
 
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Is it sad that I find prison to be preferable if I can just game like that guy? I hate responsibility and all that shit, so I wouldn't mind murdering someone and just game for the rest of my life.

Yeah, I'm insane.
You need a good lawyer for that. Negotiating benefits for your mental/physical health. And actually theres lots of prisoners who commit crimes shortly after release, because they find community, food, and acceptance in jail. So once they're finally released they don't know anything else.
 

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Wtf they are in fucking prison.

They should have little to no entertainment.

If I had it my way I would provide them books and only books but with a twist.

The final chapter would be ripped off every book so the scumbags are stuck in prison wondering how their book ends. Driving them insane.
I guess I'm just glad you don't have any say in how prisons are run.
So basically every Wi-fi device is banned? That sucks, although I guess you can still pick up a PS2 and play JRPS like Persona 3/4 or FFX/XII.
 
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I'd really like for them to spend their time doing something at least slightly educational that could help them become a functional member of society instead of pissing away their time with video games...
 
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Wtf they are in fucking prison.

They should have little to no entertainment.

If I had it my way I would provide them books and only books but with a twist.

The final chapter would be ripped off every book so the scumbags are stuck in prison wondering how their book ends. Driving them insane.
Oh man you'd love it here in Italy then.
The European court of Human Rights even rebuked us in January, for "inhuman and degrading" treatment of inmates.
Glad we can get your rocks off. ;)
 

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Makes sense, modern consoles could introduce a big security problem... anybody could set up a wifi network close enough to the prison for the inmates to connect to it (they could even mcgyver a directional antenna to emit from further away and/or target a specific area of the prison), and freely exchange messages with people outside.
Many modern escape plans start with getting a cell phone inside the jail, with a connected console you wouldn't even need that.
 
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Prisons in developed European countries are ''little'' different compared to US.
Not exactly all roses and sunshine:
http://en.avaaz.org/1235/inside-frances-hellish-prisons

A government watchdog in charge of monitoring prison conditions in France has released a scathing report (Fr) on "inhuman" living conditions in some French jails. Filthy toilets, exposed electrical wires, leaking roofs and infestations of rats and cockroaches are common. One inmate was reported to have been forced to drink water from his toilet because his water tap was broken. Add to that overcrowding and violence, and it's no wonder that France has the highest inmate suicide rate in Europe.
 
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Once they're out of prison they won't go against the law anymore, since the experience was so uncomfortable for them, duh.
As if it was "comfortable" to play videogames all day in a 2m² cell.

Anyway he said the prisoners should go insane. And that wouldn't help at all, because later those insane people would get put back into society and I think noone would want that. And if you don't want to put them back, then well you could also just kill them. Which is pretty stupid in its own right.