spatenfloot
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It will help slightly but nothing huge. Mostly as people see it being used.
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PS4 Effect on Vita Sales
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PotionBleue
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I'd recommend reading Another Hardcore Lie Exposed: Third-party sales actually improved on Wii. But then it's a bit off-topic.
I would say that it's still being sold since it still makes them a small profit, and the attach rate is great.
KittyKittyBangBang
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Probably not much, but since I have seen Remote Play is as advertised, im considering it now I have a PS4. Never gave it a thought before
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who is this impostor
A phone is much different than a dedicated handheld game device.
trying to sell the Vita on just RP alone isnt gonna do much, it'll probably move some Vitas, mostly to those that are more into gaming, but otherwise whats gonna move Vita sales in any significant way are games, and the system as really awesome games, and more system sellers like God Eater 2, FFX/X-2 in japan or even the VitaTVs for a more affordable hardware optioneven if its limited
In the west Vita still needs that mass market killer app, like the PSP GTAs, GoW, GT, etc., just imagine an exclusive Vita GTA, system seller/saver right there, but lets not forget the huge issue that is the lack of marketing on the Vita from SoA, seriously not even their own IPs.
suffice it to say it all comes down to, 1 or 2 mass market killer apps, better marketing and at least more affordable prices on those memory cards
In the west Vita still needs that mass market killer app, like the PSP GTAs, GoW, GT, etc., just imagine an exclusive Vita GTA, system seller/saver right there, but lets not forget the huge issue that is the lack of marketing on the Vita from SoA, seriously not even their own IPs.
suffice it to say it all comes down to, 1 or 2 mass market killer apps, better marketing and at least more affordable prices on those memory cards
disastermouse
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Memory cards. The price is too damn high!
DarknessTear
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So many people here are naive. Why would you think that PS4 wouldn't impact Vita sales when remote play is fucking awesome? I know if I had the money, I'd definitely buy both so I could do crafting/gathering in FFXIV away from my TV.
lets hope so, but marketing the system as just a ps4 add-on purely because of remote play is a disservice to the system
marketing the Vita is the easiest thing ever, they just need to say:
"hey look, heres this awesome system, on it you can play all those ps1 and psp games that are available on the playstation network, couple that with an awesome playstation plus yearly subscription and you will get free vita games every month and discounts on other games, look at all these indie games, how about all these awesome exclusives like Uncharted:GA, P4G, Gravity Rush, Killzone, Soul Sacrifice and Tearaway, and how about that Ps4 remote play, now you can enjoy your ps4 games while going to school, work or while someones hogging the TV, etc"
if they hammered this into people, on tv or whatever, i dont know how anyone couldnt be excited for the system, but alas, they dont bother marketing this stff and expect people to know this stuff right off the batt
- Next gen visuals
- 3rd party games
- PS4/Vita support remote play via the internet, Wii U is local only.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I cant see how PS4 would promote Vita sales TBH
If anything else will even further lower them, because people will have to pay for a brand new and expensive system, which means even less people with a budget to get Vita
I have read that people may use Vita as a controller, is that so important and is Vita so good as controller that would make someone pay for a Vita just for that ?
What is remote play ?
Play loaded PS4 games on Vita with wirless (like WiiU somehow) ?
But in the end it is about percentages
People usually buy consoles for their exclusive game experiences
Not to play another games console on the go
That would be an extremely small market willing to pay extra just to do that imo and Vita exclusive game library is rather mediocre comparing to other systems
Nintendo with 3DS for example is releasing behemoth games one after another, Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, Zelda OOT 3D, Zelda LTTP, 3x Layton games, Megami, Luigi mansion etc etc
Vita should focus on such behemoth releases to get better sales, not things that only a few people would use or even know about
In my mind that would be an extremely small percent of such people
If Vita was very cheap maybe would happen indeed, but it is not
I cant see PS4 having a visible impact in Vita sales
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
I've said this before but the Vita has to be able to sell itself without mention of remote play or free games on PS+.
People like me who buy it for those reasons are not going to help the Vita. I have 30 games or something just now, all free. I want Persona 4 Golden but I am not going to buy it because it will just appear on PS+ a month later.
Along with Persona 4 the other game people mentioned I should play that I didn't have was Guacamelee, and before I even had a think about buying it, its announced for PS+.
People like me who buy it for those reasons are not going to help the Vita. I have 30 games or something just now, all free. I want Persona 4 Golden but I am not going to buy it because it will just appear on PS+ a month later.
Along with Persona 4 the other game people mentioned I should play that I didn't have was Guacamelee, and before I even had a think about buying it, its announced for PS+.
MesserWolf
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Is the remote play a Killer application & system seller?
for now I do not think so. I doubt the public even knows it exists
We will see if it gains traction.
for now I do not think so. I doubt the public even knows it exists
We will see if it gains traction.
Alcoholikaust
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I'm buying one to accompany my Vita -just for remote play
SporeCrawler
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you pretty much answered it.
Nintendo platforms for nintendo games and other platforms for third party games. So if you like Nintendo games the game pad is appealing and if you dont the vita as a offtv accessory might be more appealing.
You cant just say that Nintendo software is not selling though because that is just factually wrong. I mean Nintendo basically sustained Wii on their first party outcomes alone and made it the most succesful platform last gen. sure the last few years were bad and the decision to let it barren out was appalling. But saying that Nintendo software is not appealing to people is not taking into account the sales of "occasional" hits (that occasional hits being 15 out of the Top 20 last gen and over 50 games that sold over a million world wide and 9 games that sold over 10 million world wide.)
flatearthpandas
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I don't expect there to be much of an effect at all. I'm going to guess that most people aren't interested in a $200 accessory with several missing inputs that only may work as advertised for them, if the real world impressions are anything to go off.
I already have a Vita so I'll be interested in trying it out once the PS4 gets some games, but internet where I live is kind of shitty and the best I'm hoping for is it working in my apartment decently (which isn't the case for some people still)
I already have a Vita so I'll be interested in trying it out once the PS4 gets some games, but internet where I live is kind of shitty and the best I'm hoping for is it working in my apartment decently (which isn't the case for some people still)
LukasTaves
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I really don't see remote play being a compelling feature to the mass (TBH, I'm still shocked that so many here on gaf are thrilled for this), so my guess would be: almost no effect at all.
Portugeezer
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Will go up, but there are a lot of used Vita's to be found too.
i read a post on the first page about bundling vita's with the ps4. that would be a great idea i think. maybe sometime next year after they get the early adopters out of the way and the xmas sales monies, they push a bundle deal where u get a ps4, vita and some game optimized for remote play. for 499, i could see it happening.
Fright Zone
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I think it will have some effect.
Many people will subscribe to PS+ when they get a PS4, for the online.
When they realise that they can collect two free Vita games a month, once they have a few stacked up and realise that if they buy a Vita they have a game collection ready to go, that will make the purchase very tempting.
Many people will subscribe to PS+ when they get a PS4, for the online.
When they realise that they can collect two free Vita games a month, once they have a few stacked up and realise that if they buy a Vita they have a game collection ready to go, that will make the purchase very tempting.
FranXico
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The Vita is doing more to help sell the PS4 than the other way around.
Vita owners have an extra feature to enjoy, making the PS4 purchase somewhat more attractive to them.
People who were going to buy a PS4, are in most cases not going to spend the extra money for a Vita, just for remote play.
Vita owners have an extra feature to enjoy, making the PS4 purchase somewhat more attractive to them.
People who were going to buy a PS4, are in most cases not going to spend the extra money for a Vita, just for remote play.
If Sony can advertise the connectivity between the PS4 and Vita, it might make people interested. They just need to show how awesome remote play is. For example, my PS4 is in the basement but I was sitting upstairs watching hockey and playing Knack on the Vita at the same time, it was great.
SillyEskimo
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I bought a Vita on Wed just for remote play. Best Buy price matched $160 from Radio Shack and $50 for a 32 GB card from a local retailer.
I got 6 free games, had 2 cross buy, and I bought 1.
All in all, it was a great time to jump in. I hope it sees a sales bump. Maybe Vita will be a more attractive Xmas gift for people that just got a ps4.
I got 6 free games, had 2 cross buy, and I bought 1.
All in all, it was a great time to jump in. I hope it sees a sales bump. Maybe Vita will be a more attractive Xmas gift for people that just got a ps4.
Tons of reason. The biggest being that people who shell out $400 for a new console ain't going to shell another $250. The market for the Vita just isn't there in the west. It's dead. It has a niche market in Japan and is doing slightly better there, but still terrible.
Well, let's add a wildcard to the conversation. Would the Vita TV do well here if it advertised fully as a way for people to play their PS4 in another room in their home or indeed in another location over the internet? I mean *dat price point afterall.
I wonder if they are waiting until the Vita lite and TV releases in the west to make a big marketing push on the remote play feature. It will be a lot easier to push it as an add on for the PS4 if it's cheaper. £450 for the handheld bundle and £400 for the TV bundle sound really appealing.
entremet
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Well. Those have actual productivity functions. The Vita is a purely gaming device.
Remote play ain't that big of a selling point. People like their big screens.
Insert joke about Vita screen here lol.
I still don't think the Vita TV will do well. Sony made a mistake by naming it Vita TV and should've rather called it Playstation TV.
No reason why they can't redeem it for the Western release. I agree with you that PSTV would be a stellar name.
If that were true, the Vita would be outselling the 3DS.
Sony needs to make people see why owning a Vita makes sense as a PS4 owner.
- Cross-buy
- Cross-play
- Remote play
- Free PS+ games
- Unified eco-system (friends lists/trophies)
People do like their big screen. You can't seriously be comparing a Vita vs 3DS screens like its a flat screen for example...
I'm not sure if cross buy or play matters for the general public. You have a PS4 and you're fine. Those features are nice if you already have a vita. Remote play, it's just not something to boost its sales. PS+ is a good one though.
Raven77
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I like all the people saying "no increase" or "not much"...complete opposite of what I'm actually seeing.
3 of my friends are all getting Vita's now because of remote play. Another 2 of them plan to get it by Christmas. I personally think that once the word gets out and the general PS4 players start to hear and see this feature with the Vita you will see sales increase.
3 of my friends are all getting Vita's now because of remote play. Another 2 of them plan to get it by Christmas. I personally think that once the word gets out and the general PS4 players start to hear and see this feature with the Vita you will see sales increase.
I remember when the Vita launched and heard the same thing. Once people see there friends with it word of mouth will see it became popular. Still waiting!!
This.
bigboss370
Member
Remote play was the one feature that pushed me to finally buy a Vita, and it is absolutely worth it. In the process I found out how great Vita is on its own mertis. Hopefully there is a boost in sales.
RadarScope1
Member
+1 here. Bought them both this week. Not expecting a huge jump in Vita sales right now. I think it could buoy sales a bit over time as people find out what it can do.