BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This says way more about China in 2015 than it does PS2 vs PS4
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PS4 Hardware and Software selling faster than PS2 in Asia
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Unfortunately not. It's very hard to get data in this region. I do have some old PS2 data for a few asian countries but nothing of value concerning PS3/PS4 other than what I just posted for India and Asia.
Haha yeah this is actually so common in some regions.
It's funny when older folks would come over back in the day and call even the Wii a Playstation at my home.
Kinda like how all toothpaste is called Colgate where I live
I wish people would at least call it a Playstation where I live. People here refer to it as a "Sony". Though there are some who refer to everything as a gameboy.
What about New Zealand?
Heh, I've never once heard of a PS console referred to as a "Sony"
But of course my Vita is the perennial Gameboy to all.
Haha yeah this is actually so common in some regions.
It's funny when older folks would come over back in the day and call even the Wii a Playstation at my home.
Kinda like how all toothpaste is called Colgate where I live
In my country, gaming = playstation for everyone under the age of 50.
But my dad (and everyone his age) still calls everything gaming Atari, even mobile games, but he's 52 years old so he was more exposed to Atari (he bought me my first console too, which was an Atari).
NormandyVII
Member
No surprise. About 80% of my colleagues own a PS4. I'm in Singapore. All of my friends have a PS4.
KillerMan91
Member
Probably also one of the reasons why Sony is able to get so many Japanese games on board despite 3DS making more sense domestically for some games. I would guess that Japanese software sells well in rest of Asia too.
Because China is the only Asian country, right?
Anecdotal evidence, but from my observation, in Malaysia, the PS4's adoption rate is easily starting to match up with the PS2's and this is just the start of the gen. Several people I know have PS4's and I'm planning on getting one this December. It's quite surprising because the PS4's hasn't even been hacked for piracy yet and piracy thrives here. In fact, I would say it is pretty much impossible to find non pirated copies of PC, PS2 and PSP games here.
To some Japanese publishers, Asia is a more viable market for their games than the US or Europe (like Sega and Yakuza).
Do you have Yakuza sales in Asia, ZhugeEX?
Yeah, the problem in my country (the Philippines) is how rampant piracy is.
During the PS2 days in my province, games were marked up heavily. A $50 game then would cost you about $80, and you get to buy the game at that price months after the game is released worldwide. That's the NTSC-US copy by the way, so we don't have our own region here. Worse is that I remember the median salary being around $250/month back in my province during the PS2 era.
Now, you can pretty much buy a copy of a game cheaper than its US price. They now sell Asian versions of the copy, so we also get DLCs and stuff. It is still a bit pricey considering the cost of goods here, but they are much more affordable. Piracy is still rampant, but I see a lot more people actually buying original copies of the game.
Mr. Giggles
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Not just Asian countries, back in Dubai the PS was king until the tough nut that was the PS3 came along.. The 360 became the go to choice because it was piratable
The PS3 was still by far the best selling console there as far as I know.
correct. With over 60% marketshare.
Couldn't resist
Cornbread78
Member
Good show PS4!
In other news: HAPPY BIRTHDAY ZHUGE!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks very much. Haha!
Mr. Giggles
Member
Impressive, I didn't expect that - then again I only know a small group of gamers in Dubai
The 360 did well.
But the Wii was non-existent in the middle east whilst the PS3 launched March 2007. Where as Xbox 360 launched in October 2008, around a year and a half later. The PS3 had quite a good lead when the 360 launched and whilst the 360 sold well it never caught up.
Anyway, I just noticed that there is a small bump in sales on the picture below. This actually represents when PS4 launched in China. Good to see that had a noticeable effect.
In other news: HAPPY BIRTHDAY ZHUGE!!!!!!!!!!
Quick, somebody needs to create a chart of his age.
His original quote was about the Xbox One launching in China, unfortunately.
Betting that 1% on the wrong horse.
It's not hard to believe. PS4 cannot be pirated , that's all.
Oops, I read it wrong.
Hardware sold better because of the official launch in the region + better off middle class compare to 10 years ago. Look at their GDP growth rate.
Wasn't there a massive financial meltdown in many Asian economies late 90s/early 00s that probably hurt PS2 sales back then?
Might be interesting to compare post Asian financial crash to now, vs western console sales post GFC to the height of the PS2 era.
Nice to see growth anyway. PS2 calibre sales should be beaten for the sake of the console market.
Might be interesting to compare post Asian financial crash to now, vs western console sales post GFC to the height of the PS2 era.
Nice to see growth anyway. PS2 calibre sales should be beaten for the sake of the console market.
FullMetaltech
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Make a chart in the shape of a cake. Happy Bday Zhuge.Quick, somebody needs to create a chart of his age.
mckmas8808
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Not exactly. Sony is actually putting in WORK to localize these games also. It's a two way street.
Both Ps1 (1996/12) & PS2 (2001/12) were officially released in TH. SCE Asia didn't enter ID, VN, and PH markets until 2009/2010 with PS3 & PSP. That was after they had abandoned their efforts to get permission to launch in China, deciding to expand their operations in SEA instead.
Why don't we just make him..... a pie chart. Lol
While the localization has something to do with it, some of it has to also do with the fact that the group of people that have the disposable income to get a luxury like a game console has grown. More people in the middle class.
Chû Totoro
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And that's why it's not comparable. PS2 years Asia vs. PS4 nowadays Asia is really really not the same.
texhnolyze
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Chû Totoro;179006620 said:
Yeah, it seems that people are still thinking that Asia's growth is in stagnant over the past 20 years.
I mean, even in the prime territory of their competitor (US/UK) they've been doing consistently better than the competitor so it seems like it's safe to say it's "on lock" globally.
Ohh Happy Birthday Zhuge Liang!
Dead Prince
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what is that in actual numbers.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Have you actually compared the U.S and Japanese numbers? There's a world of difference between them.
Also, no console is going to sell at the rate the Wii did. Expecting PS4 to sale around Wii's peak months for the whole cycle is beyond ridiculous. Neverminding the fact the console market may have contracted somewhat, and the explosive amount of sales at the beginning throwing off the usual trajectory.
Thebeardofknowledge
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You're not paying attention to what I'm saying, other regions are comfortably selling better than PS2 and Wii, meanwhile the US and Japan are showing steep decline, in the US the PS4 is not even performing as well as the PS3 YTD, the reason the PS4 is doing better than PS2 worldwide is the growth in other regions.
It's a problem those two regions specifically are showing.
Why? I'm talking about the growth those Territories are showing, MASSIVE growth, growth big enough to counteract the decline in the US and Japan, why would a smaller market sell as well as the US by volume? a country with a population of over 300m, or Japan, a country with a population of over 120m, and both countries have a massively better GDP.
sixteen-bit
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Congrats on the success.
What about the bump on the software side on 10th 11th month? Holidays?The 360 did well.
But the Wii was non-existent in the middle east whilst the PS3 launched March 2007. Where as Xbox 360 launched in October 2008, around a year and a half later. The PS3 had quite a good lead when the 360 launched and whilst the 360 sold well it never caught up.
Anyway, I just noticed that there is a small bump in sales on the picture below. This actually represents when PS4 launched in China. Good to see that had a noticeable effect.
Yeh, that was September through December.
