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PS4 HDD speed test thread (HDD/SSHD/SSD/STD)

Can you take the 500 GB drive you remove from the PS4 and install it in the PS3? I've got a 160gb PS3 model and could kill two birds with one purchase if this is possible.
 
Sorry for going slightly OT, but could anyone who has replaced the stock hdd confirm if PS4 changes the hdd encryption key every time you switch HDDs? PS3 does it that way, meaning the old HDD becomes unreadable once you install a new one.
 
Thank god I found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Replacing-HDD...S648NLSC4FF2/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B000IZWNLG

Anyone who runs into issues installing the System Update, first for the new HDD, you need the 800mb + install file. Second, you need to remove the flash drive while applying the system update. I did not remove the flash drive and kept on getting error that he describes. Can't wait to finally play my PS4 a little bit again! I'm going to try out resogun.
 
Occam said:
Sorry for going slightly OT, but could anyone who has replaced the stock hdd confirm if PS4 changes the hdd encryption key every time you switch HDDs? PS3 does it that way, meaning the old HDD becomes unreadable once you install a new one.
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Yes if you put in a new HDD, the old one will no longer be readable.
 
nasanu said:
That is what you imagine? Personally I'd imagine a personal harem, but each to their own. Anyway no, TRIM is not needed.
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Well I guess time will tell if it starts to lag over time, especially as it runs out of space. The SSHD might be a better option
 
reKon said:
I just put a 1TB in my PS4 hdd and the 500gb hdd from the PS4 into my PS3. So the 120GB hard drive that took out of the PS3 can't just be formatted?
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You can format it and use it for something else. You just can't read the ps3 data anymore.
 
KentBrockman said:
Yes if you put in a new HDD, the old one will no longer be readable.
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Is this encryption a feature that has to be turned on?

I liberally swapped out the stock, SSHD and SSD I had in order to test. I simply powered down and removed one and replaced it with another. All worked perfectly, and read the correct data and ran the apps fine. This allowed me to time the three drives.
 
jimbob1971 said:
Is this encryption a feature that has to be turned on?

I liberally swapped out the stock, SSHD and SSD I had in order to test. I simply powered down and removed one and replaced it with another. All worked perfectly, and read the correct data and ran the apps fine. This allowed me to time the three drives.
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Yes you're right. As long as you have the same firmware on both drives you can swap. The info posted about it not working once removed is not correct. You can't swap between different ps3s but you can on the same system.
 
dazzlerazzle said:
So is there a point investing in SATA3 drive or SATA2 should do the work ???

Actually I did my lookin and there is no point in aiming for SATA2 device prices are almost the same in many cases I was able to find SATA3 device at better price
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Here's some info regarding SATA versions...

There have been three versions of SATA:

--> SATA Revision 1.0 (1.5Gbit/sec)
--> SATA Revision 2.0 (3Gbit/sec)
--> SATA Revision 3.0 (6Gbit/sec)

SATA drives are forward and backwards compatible with the SATA ports on a motherboard or disk controller. So a SATA Rev 1.0 drive will work with a SATA Rev 2.0 port, and vice versa. There's the occasional mismatch. Although most drives include a jumper you can use to force it to a lower SATA level in that unlikely event.

SATA Rev 2.0 drives are the most common drives manufactured today. If a current drive just says "SATA" with no qualifier, chances are it's SATA Rev 2.0.

SATA Rev 3.0 is quite new and products that use it are starting to be introduced. Hard drives that use SATA Rev 3.0 are usually advertised as such, often with the phrase "6Gb/sec SATA" or something similar while the SATA Rev 2.0 will be advertised as "3Gb/sec SATA." For current HDDs the increased SATA speed is irrelevant because the disk itself doesn't even get close to the limit of even SATA Rev 2.0 speeds. SATA Rev 2.0 is even good enough for most SSDs - there are only a handful of the very most recent and high performance ones that actually benefit from SATA Rev 3.0.

Be aware that most of the SATA 3.0 non-SSD drives are Enterprise HDD drives and come in the 15mm height that should be used in a RAID/SAN configuration. These will NOT fit in the PS3 or PS4.

Example link below.

http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/enterprise-hard-drives/hdd/constellation/#specs

I hope this helps.
 
If you are nuts and run 2 SSDs in RAID, you'll want SATA 3.0's bandwidth.

I don't know of any usage cases where you would need to put 2 SSDs in a RAID configuration outside of realtime editing of uncompressed HD video.
 
If I want to change my PS4 HDD in the future, do I have to format it when plugging it into another machine? Like with the PS3?
 
Yoshichan said:
If I want to change my PS4 HDD in the future, do I have to format it when plugging it into another machine? Like with the PS3?
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I not sure I understand your question. Your old PS4 HDD will not work in your PS3, unless you format it, if that's what you are asking. The new PS4 HDD/SSD/SSHD will require you to install the System Software + Firmware. You will have to install the 900MB update file found on Sony's site.

I would keep your old PS4 HDD around until you are sure that your new drive works, of course.
 
Aight if my PS4 breaks and I want to save whatever I have left on my HDD, can I simply hook it into another PS4 and transfer the stuff?
 
Yoshichan said:
Aight if my PS4 breaks and I want to save whatever I have left on my HDD, can I simply hook it into another PS4 and transfer the stuff?
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That, I cannot answer. I have not tested two PS4s, one drive.

In the past the PS3 was very strict on switching hard drives. There's an authentication process that happens when you hook up a drive. It marries the HDD to the PS3/4. If you unbox a new PS4 and them move the old PS4's drive to it, it might not recognize it and ask you to format it.

There's also the fact that you have to make sure that you match the firmware updates. Example, if you have a new PS4 but it's running Firmware 1.00 and then you have an old PS4 and it's running 1.52. Moving that old drive to the new PS4 will complain that the firmware on the new PS4 is 1.00 and will ask you to re-install the System Software and format the drive.

Not sure if you have PS+, but the point of the cloud saves is there so you never have to "transfer" anything if your PS4 or HDD crashes and burns.

You just get a new PS4, log into your PSN, activate it as your PRIMARY PS4 and then start downloading your games and game saves again.

Be careful though. If you have a blu-ray disc game and then you re-install it. It will put a new game save and if you don't quickly re-download the older game save it will re-upload the new one and erase the old one (if you have the PS+ auto update checked in the preferences). That happened to me once. You have to redownload your game saves for your digital games too. But it's easier to remember to do that process and tend to forget when you re-install a blu-ray version.

I think Sony needs to implement a game save history where it prevents that from happening.
 
Thanks.

Yeah I ask this cuz I fucked up with my PS3 and lost save-files from 2008-2013, worth over 4000 hours of gameplay.
 
I'm going to be getting a PS4 in the next couple of months, is it worth upgrading the HD to a hybrid drive from the start ?

If i leave it a year or so what problems would i face installing a hybrid drive later on ?

I have looked at the videos on here, i'm just wondering if it's worth doing now, i would rather do it now to get it out the way what issues have any Gafers had when upgrading there drives to a hybrid drive ?
 
B1G_A1AN said:
I'm going to be getting a PS4 in the next couple of months, is it worth upgrading the HD to a hybrid drive from the start ?

If i leave it a year or so what problems would i face installing a hybrid drive later on ?

I have looked at the videos on here, i'm just wondering if it's worth doing now, i would rather do it now to get it out the way what issues have any Gafers had when upgrading there drives to a hybrid drive ?
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I guess you could say it's safer to get one of the recommend drives now since they have already been throughly tested.

There is a slight possibility that new drives will come out on the market that, going by specs alone, should work with the PS4 but don't for some reason; firmware incompatibility. It's possible.

Just don't buy it and forget where you put it. lol
 
so i got this HDD for my PS4 today.
I want to test it out.
if it came OK from delivery, so when connected to a PC it asks to Initialize it.

I need to choose between:
MBR or GPT.

which one to choose ? i will get my PS4 later on, and i have to test the drive on my PC first.
but i'm afraid to select something that will screw things up on my PS4.

HELP ME GAF. :)
 
Theman2k said:
so i got this HDD for my PS4 today.
I want to test it out.
if it came OK from delivery, so when connected to a PC it asks to Initialize it.

I need to choose between:
MBR or GPT.

which one to choose ? i will get my PS4 later on, and i have to test the drive on my PC first.
but i'm afraid to select something that will screw things up on my PS4.

HELP ME GAF. :)
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Your PC's BIOS and your Windows OS that is giving you more options. If you wanted to partition that disk for older Windows or Mac you'd choose MBR (Windows 7 32-bit or older) or GPT (Mac OS X, Windows 7 64-bit or Windows 8).

Most Linux will support GPT.

For the PS4 uses its own formatting (FAT32 for USB flash). So, it won't use any of the boot records you place on the drive ahead of time. The PS4 will format it for you.

You can go ahead and format it using either one and mess around with it just for testing. But you'll have to format it again once you get your PS4.
 
Quick question.

I'm looking at some hard drives to buy for my ps4, but I don't know which specs are more important that the others. RPMs, cache, and SATA. I couldn't find a 2.5" SSHD for 2TB. They're always listed at 1TB...

Anyway, it seems when comparing those other specs (RPMs, cache and SATA), the numbers get thrown around. example - Some SSHD's are,

7200rpm with 32mb cache, while others are 5400rpm with 64mb cache. Which is better? and can someone tell me where SATA comes into play?

Thanks...
 
doemaaan said:
Quick question.

I'm looking at some hard drives to buy for my ps4, but I don't know which specs are more important that the others. RPMs, cache, and SATA. I couldn't find a 2.5" SSHD for 2TB. They're always listed at 1TB...

Anyway, it seems when comparing those other specs (RPMs, cache and SATA), the numbers get thrown around. example - Some SSHD's are,

7200rpm with 32mb cache, while others are 5400rpm with 64mb cache. Which is better? and can someone tell me where SATA comes into play?

Thanks...
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Don't get caught up on the 32MB or 64MB cache. Focus on size 500GB to 1.5TB, if it's a HDD, SSHD (w/8GB SSD), SSD and thickness (7mm to 9.5mm). I don't think there's a 2TB SSHD drive available yet that will fit into the PS4. Same with 1.5TB SSHDs. There are some HDDs 2TB+, but those are for servers and won't fit the PS4 (15mm).

Avoid 5400RPM HDDs. Go with the 7200RPM, if you go standard HDD. The 5400RPM 1TB SSHD is a good one also.

Here's a summary.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92875789&postcount=915

The list is on the 1st page too.
 
Tux said:
Don't get caught up on the 32MB or 64MB cache. Focus on size 500GB to 1.5TB, if it's a HDD, SSHD (w/8GB SSD), SSD and thickness (7mm to 9.5mm). I don't think there's a 2TB SSHD drive available yet that will fit into the PS4. Same with 1.5TB SSHDs. There are some HDDs 2TB+, but those are for servers and won't fit the PS4 (15mm).

Avoid 5400RPM HDDs. Go with the 7200RPM, if you go standard HDD. The 5400RPM 1TB SSHD is a good one though.

Here's a summary.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92875789&postcount=915

The list is on the front page too.
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Ah, thanks. Helpful stuff.
 
doemaaan said:
Ah, thanks. Helpful stuff.
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I got myself one of these 1) Hitachi 1TB HGST 7K1000 7200 RPM (HDD) - $80-$100before I even had the machine, did a straight swap before even booting up and have to say it's been great, can't really compare load times, but I can say that no loading has ever bothered me to the point where I think it has become intrusive to my gameplay.
 
Tux said:
Your PC's BIOS and your Windows OS that is giving you more options. If you wanted to partition that disk for older Windows or Mac you'd choose MBR (Windows 7 32-bit or older) or GPT (Mac OS X, Windows 7 64-bit or Windows 8).

Most Linux will support GPT.

For the PS4 uses its own formatting (FAT32 for USB flash). So, it won't use any of the boot records you place on the drive ahead of time. The PS4 will format it for you.

You can go ahead and format it using either one and mess around with it just for testing. But you'll have to format it again once you get your PS4.
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thanks a lot tux !

that's what i thought, so i didn't mess with it since... :)
 
Tux said:
Don't get caught up on the 32MB or 64MB cache. Focus on size 500GB to 1.5TB, if it's a HDD, SSHD (w/8GB SSD), SSD and thickness (7mm to 9.5mm). I don't think there's a 2TB SSHD drive available yet that will fit into the PS4. Same with 1.5TB SSHDs. There are some HDDs 2TB+, but those are for servers and won't fit the PS4 (15mm).

Avoid 5400RPM HDDs. Go with the 7200RPM, if you go standard HDD. The 5400RPM 1TB SSHD is a good one also.

Here's a summary.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92875789&postcount=915

The list is on the 1st page too.
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I caved.... got the Seagate 1TB SSHD from best buy yesterday after they price matched the price from amazon at $107 they then took $60 off from reward zone coupons... walked away with it for $58.. not a bad deal... i will upgrade again when SSDs are at a
lower price.
 
So...

Roughly the same price, what do you guys think is better?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Seagate...Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item5d49730b5b
- 7200RPM, 8GB SSD, but 750GB

or

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/937740-REG/seagate_st1000lm014_hybrid_1tb_2_5_sata.html
- 5400RPM, 8GB SSD, and 1TB

It seems like the top one (ST750LX003) is a replacement for the STBD750100. You get the best of both worlds, the SSD cache and 7200RPM, but it is 250GB less than the more commonly purchased ST1000LM014.

Suggestions highly appreciated.
 
Is there a video that shows the top coming off the PS4? I found a few HDD installation vids but they seem to cut away from the actual plastic peice coming off the console.
 
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