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PS4 vs Xbox One | Expectation of differences between multiplatform launch titles
- Thread starter nib95
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That's really a bit of a hyperbole. The 32MB of eSRAM doesn't suddenly make the Xbox One significantly harder to develop for. It takes a bit more effort for sure, but not even close to what the Cell required this gen.
famousmortimer
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I have a significant sony bias but this reads like a pr statement. And the sony loves devs pic at the end? Simmer down viral marketer.
Andronicus
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Yeah there's a e3 demo with the camera & ds4 motion stuff floating around
Codeblew
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I think if you are going to call somewhat out as a viral marketer, you should show some proof. I browsed his comment history and did not get that vibe. PC/PS4/Technology fan sure, but not viral marketer.
M_A_C
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What do those two things have to do with each other?
famousmortimer
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That is completely nonsensical. Pushing graphics as far as humanly possible increases sales and that's all they care about. This idea that Microsoft has everyone by the balls making them dumb down their games is absurd.
Agreed. As a developer you want to give people as many reason's to buy your game(s) as possible. Intentionally nerfing games does not sound like a road to success.
TacticalFox88
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The exclusives of the PS4 will practically destroy anything out there.
Naughty Dog, GG, and SSM?
They're likely in competition with each other, rather than everyone else.
Sony has ridiculous amounts of talented artists and programmers
Naughty Dog, GG, and SSM?
They're likely in competition with each other, rather than everyone else.
Sony has ridiculous amounts of talented artists and programmers
angelic
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The performance difference..see what that extra 2gb of fast ram and faster clock speed on the cores does. MS might "encourage" EA to make the game run identically to the Xbox One version to save face.
The early stuff will still be interesting I agree.
Brad Grenz
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PS4 games silently install themselves to the hard drive while you play.
No more waiting? Awesome.
seattle6418
Member
lol, you just posted about conspiracies. Before reading into the movement i actually thought Sony was "encouraging" their people on forum to rally against DRM just so they could later on look good at E3.
Then i read about it and to me it looks like the movement was pretty much 100% legit.
Point is, better to take the context of things before jumping the gun.
Trogdor1123
Member
Except that devs and pubs want to put as little work into games as possible and mazimize their return. If its costs a bunch more to polish up a game for a single console and it wont result in many more sales then they wont do it.
You can easily make a good game with the same amount of graphics under a small budget. Sony proved that with Uncharted 1 & 2 which both cost about $20 million to develop apiece.
Glorified G
Member
lol. the pic at the end kills it for me. still not sure if serious
This mindset has never existed before with multiplatform titles. Why would it start now? And it makes no sense at all. A consumer is not going to buy a title at all because one version looks significantly better?
You and what proof?
So if any Xbox One game looks just as good or CLOSE to as good as the PS4 version, everyone will assume that the "Dev's are lazy" or "MS paid them off"?
That's okay. It took almost 3-5 years for the gaming world to collectively acknowledge that the cell "might" have been a bad idea. I can't imagine the meltdowns when "Theoretical precentage boosts in performance" don't turn out the way everyone is hoping.
Manmademan
Member
absolutely not.
qa_engineer
Member
It isn't about what people are hoping for, its a realistic, and very likely outcome. I'm not going to write a 12 paragraph long response on the similarities of the hardware, but that's what it boils down to. There isn't anything theoretical about better specs especially when the architectures are near identical.
dragonbane
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That picture is real though
PHOENIXZERO
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A number of launch multi-platform games will look different, especially those who are using the PC as lead platform, as already said the gap is only going to widen as the generation matures.
Basically yeah that's the worst case scenario when it comes to XBO vs PS4 comparisons but it should be the exception and not the rule.
Basically yeah that's the worst case scenario when it comes to XBO vs PS4 comparisons but it should be the exception and not the rule.
famousmortimer
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Guys, I was kidding. I mean, i wasn't kidding that it read like a PR piece... but I didn't really think he was a viral marketer.
Joking on the internet is difficult. I should remember that. Anyway, carry on.
Joking on the internet is difficult. I should remember that. Anyway, carry on.
LittleJohnny
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Honestly, I think people are severely overestimating the power difference between PS4 and Xbox One. OMG GDDR5!!
It's not even the GDDR5 ram that will make the difference, all that will provide is enough bandwidth so that there isn't any bottlenecks, having more bandwidth than what the CPU/GPU can muster is just wasted bandwidth, its the extra shader cores in the GPU that really stands to make a difference.
The PS4 is doing more and can use the extra bandwidth provided by GDDR5, on the other hand I believe Xbox One is matched perfectly with it's current ram setup, eSram will ensure there aren't any bottlenecks, the real differentiator is that the GPU has less shader cores but when developers are faced with lower framerates, they'll just compensate by reducing AA slightly or reducing shadow detail or using other techniques that can achieve the same result, this is not a case like current PS3/360 simply not having enough ram to fit high res textures, both machines now have plenty of ram, will be running games at 1080p with nice high res textures...
Then there's the other problem, diminishing returns, time and budget. Take a game like Forza 5, it looks amazing, its running at 1080p/60fps... how much effort do you think it will take to make the game look even better? how many artists and man hours are needed to start detailing every stitch, which they probably already did by the way lol, it's really going to be tough to make the case imo. As amazing as the Drive Club PR footage looks, I have a feeling that Forza 5 will beat it in overall visuals, call me crazy but we'll see.
It's not even the GDDR5 ram that will make the difference, all that will provide is enough bandwidth so that there isn't any bottlenecks, having more bandwidth than what the CPU/GPU can muster is just wasted bandwidth, its the extra shader cores in the GPU that really stands to make a difference.
The PS4 is doing more and can use the extra bandwidth provided by GDDR5, on the other hand I believe Xbox One is matched perfectly with it's current ram setup, eSram will ensure there aren't any bottlenecks, the real differentiator is that the GPU has less shader cores but when developers are faced with lower framerates, they'll just compensate by reducing AA slightly or reducing shadow detail or using other techniques that can achieve the same result, this is not a case like current PS3/360 simply not having enough ram to fit high res textures, both machines now have plenty of ram, will be running games at 1080p with nice high res textures...
Then there's the other problem, diminishing returns, time and budget. Take a game like Forza 5, it looks amazing, its running at 1080p/60fps... how much effort do you think it will take to make the game look even better? how many artists and man hours are needed to start detailing every stitch, which they probably already did by the way lol, it's really going to be tough to make the case imo. As amazing as the Drive Club PR footage looks, I have a feeling that Forza 5 will beat it in overall visuals, call me crazy but we'll see.