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PS5 Teardown: An inside look at our most transformative console yet

tillbot8 said:
Sony just saved themselves a fortune long term not having to create custom SKU's and anticipating how many of each they will have to manufacture! Now they can upsell anything they want and the customers will be delighted. Win Win for everyone! It's genius! Something cracks, chips etc.. buy a new one? Looking to resell? pop a new panel on and bobs your uncle, new looking machine :)
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Even if they want to do game bundles with a custom look console, they can use the same SKU and just throw in the box the extra custom panels, and even sell limited edition panels for each big game launch.
It's great news for gamers that care for the console looks.
 
Very good news!

Detachable sides = custom design = PS5 all black. Love it.

Also the dust cleaning part is very appreciated. The PS5 seems to be very well engineered.
 
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USB 3.1 is not impressive in 2020...

But I like massive heatsink, M2 slot, fan is quite big as well plus replaceable covers.

So far I'm impressed, now I wonder how this cooling performs.
 
Kdad said:
Question as i truly dont know:

With the SSD being soldered on, what happens when it reaches its read/write limit...will you be able to install and run the OS from a secondary SSD?

Or do SSD not suffer from the read/write limits of the past?
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Most SSD's nowadays have ridiculous lifespans, especially high end models. So no worries.
 
captainraincoat said:
Its a massive heatsink but its not liquid or a vapour chamber................sorry folks i think we are in for a jet engine again
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DUDE. They literally said liquid metal. Are you paid to hate? All reports say it's whisper quiet. He also said vapor chamber performance in the CC. Shut up already.

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Awesome, looks like there will be a nice aftermarket for the faceplates.
Cooling looks solid and dust catchers are a welcoming addition.
Ssd expansion slot leaves enough headroom for most heatsinks too! Which will help with compatibility.

Don't understand why it took so long to release this.
 
LordOfChaos said:
At this timestamp you can see the APU is indeed cooled from both sides with a pretty sizable heatpipe ending in a heatsink, also using the whole metal sheet



All of this is encouraging for long term silence, the liquid metal, the being easy to vacuum, the large and THICC fan.
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No that heatpipe leading into a heatsink is cooling the power supply, that is sitting on the backside of the motherboard.
But the SOC is indeed cooled from both sides.
 
Birdo said:
It looked so much better when he removed the pannels.

Why couldn't that be the PS5?
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It can, just remove the panels?? plus there will be some nice after market modded panels to replace the ugly white ones, I'm looking forward to that.
 
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Bryank75 said:
Why? Who has more expertise... Sony, the people who invented portable music and are at the cutting edge of electronics advancements for the last 100 years or a few journalists with no engineering qualifications using MS paint to count pixels?
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It reminds me of the "journalists" who review MacBooks... "It's made of metal - solid build, great quality" while inside they have cpu data lines running parallel 5 millimeters away from full power lines and if you get a short there it fries the CPU. Quality laptop my ass.
 
Armorian said:
USB 3.1 is not impressive in 2020...

But I like massive heatsink, M2 slot, fan is quite big as well plus replaceable covers.

So far I'm impressed, now I wonder how this cooling performs.
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XSX has 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps), PS5 has 3x 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps) and 1x Gen 1 (5Gbps). A shorter name for 3.1 Gen 1 is 3.0 but companies tend to mislead the masses, thanks to who's behind those confusing names.
 
NXGamer said:
Likely just a retaining bolt to stop the sides being slid off in the test units. I bet store Kiosks will have the same.
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Henceforth to be known as the 'Cerny lock'!

Just trying to figure a few of the chips. The flash chip model numbers look like they may well be Toshiba/Kioxia in 4 layer stacks? The RAM is 8 2GB Samsung GDDR6 as expected. Nothing to tell us what the flash controller is here but the rumour is Phison...possibly a variant of the PS5016-E16? Overall a very smart but fairly 'simple' motherboard layout.

Anyone have any idea about die size? The specs/components look pretty similar to that OQA dev kit leak from over year ago I have to say.

That cooling system is something else and the doubled sided 120mm/45mm thick fan is big than the two separate 110mm fans on the 3090 isn't it?
 
Nice hardware. The only complaint I have is this:

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I guess the stand clip won't survive for too long if the PS5 is layed horizontally even if the weight stress is not applied on the weaker side of that clip.
 
Almanac said:
Very good news!

Detachable sides = custom design = PS5 all black. Love it.

Also the dust cleaning part is very appreciated. The PS5 seems to be very well engineered.
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Only issue is the white of the disc drive on the disc edition. Unless it's removable? I might have missed that
 
prinz_valium said:
No that heatpipe leading into a heatsink is cooling the power supply, that is sitting on the backside of the motherboard.
But the SOC is indeed cooled from both sides.
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Oh, 4:33 I see it's actually cooling the VRMs. Not the power supply but the voltage regulation feeding the APU, often a weak point in performance laptops because of heat.
 
So just about any m.2 drive would fit, if you do not put back the white cover, and as long as the m.2 drive do not build in width with its cooling/fin solution.
 
Achille0s said:
Don't worry your PS5 will just do fine



I was thinking of playing games from the M.2 SSD not swapping games



Not yet but i'll :messenger_winking:
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I know. The drives aren't available yet anyway. Even if there isn't a way to play off of the added drives optimized the way the custom SSD is you'll be able to swap quickly is what I'm saying.
 
Kdad said:
Question as i truly dont know:

With the SSD being soldered on, what happens when it reaches its read/write limit...will you be able to install and run the OS from a secondary SSD?

Or do SSD not suffer from the read/write limits of the past?
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From an PCIe-SSD-Review of a last-gen model from Samsung:

The 500GB and 1TB models can handle up to 300TB and 600TB (TBW) and this amounts to 164GB daily read/write for the 500GB model and 328GB for the 1TB model for 5 years.
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I imagine Sony shooting for a similar, if not better endurance. The SSD should last fine, really. I have no worries about that.

What I am more curious about is the TIM they use. In PC building liquid metal has a great reputation but iirc it tends to loose optimal contact over time and needs to be replaced/refreshed after about one or two years of use. But I am sure the designers thought of that and have prepared the contact planes accordingly -in PC hardware the manufacturers of coolers and cpus really to not expect you to use liquid metal,. But yeah... curious!

I am loving that massive heatsing as well as the huge fan. Compared to the PS4-cooler-design (a smaller, less fat fan blowing on a simple heatsink) this is a massive upgrade, even if PS5 should draw more power. IIRC the PS4 had a powe supply rated for 240 Watts and consumed around 150. PS5 has a PSU rated for 350W and might draw 250W - as much as a high-end-GPU in the PC space. With that massive heatsink and a clever aifflow-concept, it could really end up quite quiet.

I am also happy to see those dust-catching holes for easy home maitenence. Has any (actively) cooled console ever provided a convenient way of removing dust from the inside? I like it. But removing those side panels ... it looks a bit stressful. I am sure I will break some of those studs eventually. 🙃
 
LordOfChaos said:
Oh, 4:33 I see it's actually cooling the VRMs. Not the power supply but the voltage regulation feeding the APU, often a weak point in performance laptops because of heat.
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Yeah. That's what I meant.
The power delivery for the SOC.
Not the power supply you plug into the wall.
 
geordiemp said:
Centrifulgal fan probably moves more than 10 x more air at same RPM, it will shift some CFM if it needed and be quiet
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More than anything, that large centrifugal fan will have very high static pressure. An axial fan could potentially have much higher CFM at the same RPM and volume but it would have trouble pushing the air through the fins of that monstrously deep heatsink.

To the people saying a vapor chamber could have made the heatsink smaller, I sincerely doubt it. Heat pipes conduct heat much better along an axis and the PS5's heatsink needed to be long to fit enough fins to get the necessary surface area for heat transfer. This is a very logical layout for the PS5's typical, albeit oversized, console form factor. A vapor chamber is much better in a short run where the fins of the heatsink aren't far away from the component being cooled, just like how Microsoft used theirs in the XSX.

I am very impressed by both Sony's and Microsoft's commitment to great cooling this upcoming generation.

Edit: The PS5 should have slightly better cooling in the vertical position due the the increased efficiency of the heat pipes in that orientation.
 
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THE:MILKMAN said:
Henceforth to be known as the 'Cerny lock'!

Just trying to figure a few of the chips. The flash chip model numbers look like they may well be Toshiba/Kioxia in 4 layer stacks? The RAM is 8 2GB Samsung GDDR6 as expected. Nothing to tell us what the flash controller is here but the rumour is Phison...possibly a variant of the PS5016-E16? Overall a very smart but fairly 'simple' motherboard layout.

Anyone have any idea about die size? The specs/components look pretty similar to that OQA dev kit leak from over year ago I have to say.

That cooling system is something else and the doubled sided 120mm/45mm thick fan is big than the two separate 110mm fans on the 3090 isn't it?
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Yep, I am at work at present but will be looking into the board later.
 
Better late than never. I was impressed by that showing. They made it clear they were at least trying to solve a lot of the issues people had with the PS4. The cooling solution looks good to me.
 
Ar¢tos said:
Even if they want to do game bundles with a custom look console, they can use the same SKU and just throw in the box the extra custom panels, and even sell limited edition panels for each big game launch.
It's great news for gamers that care for the console looks.
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Yeah I don't think so. The og ps4 had an easily removable panel and, at the time people thought the same thing. Even Sony sold some special panels but the trend quickly died. And then the slim happened (both the slim and pro have easily removable top panela) but customisation is still not that popular.
 
Orky said:
much much much more consumer friendly for whom? For hardcore gamers on gaming forums maybe, for 99% of the player base who have ZERO idea what even an m2.ssd is, maybe not. It's just way easier to get an Xbox memory card in store and plug it in.
with PS5 you have to make sure to get the correct one, no one even knows now which one is supported, and the open the console etc. that's not easy for most people.
For us it's of course easy, but most other people? No.
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They better start learning....

Though I can just imagine the poor grandparents going to GameStop asking for, "some kind of m.2 sd card for my grandson's wii game.".
 
Mr. PlayStation said:


Wonder if this tweet was them throwing shade at base stand that needs to be removed and attached each time when placing it horizontal or vertical for the PS5
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I don't think there's an "each time". Don't we all leave it the way it is the first time we setup our console?
 
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