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PSN still down, internal testers online in various games though
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So the latest "news" I've heard is that they plan to "fully" have the PSN up by May 31. But that isn't really news because they planned that all along -- to have the Store and such up by the end of the month.
I mean Wario is really good about updating OP, but is there any more news on the online gameplay end? I mean so far there have been two "we'll have it up this week, oh wait sorry we won't" and now they haven't said anything beyond having services fully up by May 31?
I mean Wario is really good about updating OP, but is there any more news on the online gameplay end? I mean so far there have been two "we'll have it up this week, oh wait sorry we won't" and now they haven't said anything beyond having services fully up by May 31?
Straightballin
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InfiniteNine said:
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I started up Bad company 2 and it said Synchronizing trophies....Means nothing?
InfiniteNine
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Oh! No, some games just do that when they boot.Straightballin said:
Bumblebeetuna
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Am I reading that right? May 31st for online play confirmed by Sony or more dumb journalism?
TTP said:
It's either a lie, or it is incompetence. Either way, it shows that Sony sucks balls at either communicating with their customers, or estimating their own ability to get things done, or both.
First update with specific time frame = "could take a day or two to restore"
Second update with specific time frame = "within a week"
Third update with specific time frame = "by the end of the month"
LOL.
TheExecutive
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Kung Fu Grip said:
It really depends on the requirements of the network. I will tell you that I am not a network engineer but worked in Incident Management for a while. That being said, I have a hard time believing that the core functionality of the network isn't ready to go. They may be testing and it depends on when they started to engineer the new network but 2 weeks is beyond long enough to rebuild the network. However, if they had to expand datacenter capability it could have taken longer.
In any case, I really dont see core functionality being down this entire week. In fact, I expect it up by end of business this week. If the store is down until May 31st it is because they are doing something else to it. This incident has afforded Sony the opportunity to completely rework everything in order to protect its investments and infrastructure. I can almost guarantee that means they are protecting themselves against online CFW users.
Why are all the Sony supporters so uptight about the media saying May 31st for PSN?Kung Fu Grip said:
When (or rather, if) Sony manages to fix their online gaming component before that date, then it'll be an extremely welcome surprise to everyone who bought into the May 31st date, and will be an "in you face" moment to the media. It'd be a triumphant case of underpromise, overdeliver.
That said, I don't think it's that far-fetched that even online gaming might not be ready until at or around May 31st.
TheExecutive
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Staticks said:
In incident management you always under-promise and over-deliver to your customers. It gives you something to tout given the circumstances. It's always incredibly stupid to over-promise given the fickle nature of networks and their supporting infrastructure.
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Straightballin said:
You mean when you booted up the game aka through the Auto-Start function
Like others have said, some companies check what trophies you have earned after every session
Also the game you are playing gets shot up on the trophy list as recent "___' trophy achieved
EA has it's own servers that are in synch with their meta-social aspect
Boot up BFBC > trophy set installed > trophies achieved > sent to your ps3 + EA server (if logged in) > close game > boot up BFBC > game checks which trophies unlocked > sends info to relay with EA server for their meta-social websites eg. "Gun Club", "Facebbok integration" "Battlefield #.com" "BioWare Social", "EA.com" etc.
Demon's Souls checks against what you have achieved, and the trophy list doesn't get corrupted/hacked for insta-platinum
TheHakku
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypZA2o3oHcduckroll said:
Looking at "Well, maybe, at least it'll be back sometime in 2011."
googleplex
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To lie, means to intentionally to deceive.Cels said:
Do you really think Sony said "with in a week" with no intention actually have PSN up in that time frame?
There is absolutely no logic or profit in "lying" to the public at this point.
TouchMyBox
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I was planning on reading more of this thread, but you people are scaring me.
The May 31st date isn't a bad joke?
The May 31st date isn't a bad joke?
sixteen-bit
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perfect.Wario64 said:
tsurugi no mai
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If I unlock new trophies in a game, will they still sync with my online account when PSN comes back up? I've read both yes and no from this thread.
SolsticeZero
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Yes, they will. Guaranteed.Kotomi said:
TheExecutive
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Staticks said:
Yep.
ElRenoRaven
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Wario64 said:Will Sony post an update on PS Blog tonight? Will the update say anything substantial? Bet your GAF accounts now!
apparently you can't bet your GAF accounts anymore
It's not looking like they will. They really know how to burn any goodwill left by the consumers.
TheExecutive said:
Over-promising assumes you actually know when something is gonna happen. Like, you are 99% sure something is gonna happen in 2 days, so you say "a week".
Who knows what Sony knew back when they announced the time frames? For all we know, they might very well intended to do the over-deliver thing but failed due to unforeseen issues.
The point is we don't know what's happening behind the curtain so accusations of incompetence or whatever don't make sense to me.
What we do know is that Sony wants the PSN to be back up as much if not more than we all do.
TheExecutive
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TouchMyBox said:
May 31st is for full functionality. Since they rebuilt the network it would be incredibly stupid of them to just open the flood gates. There is always a good possibility that you fucked up somewhere down the line and will need to work on your network as it goes live and eliminating a variable such as heavy traffic means that you have one less thing to worry about. Not only that but I expect that their DB's will get hit especially hard due to the amount of downtime that they have experienced.
In short, I think May 31st is more of a worst case scenario. It could go much quicker if they engineered everything correctly. Of course, it could go much much worse too...
corrosivefrost
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Wario64 said:
Holy shit.
You're both brilliant AND my hero!
TheExecutive
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TTP said:
Yeah, I am not accusing anyone of anything (not sure if you are specifying me but I doubt it). However, I will say that you only state a date if you are 99% sure you can beat that date. Folding under the pressure from your customer to give a date when you can't reliably give one is setting your company up for failure. Executives love to do it but it usually hurts your image in the end.
googleplex
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This.TTP said:
TTP said:
All the things you say even further shows sony's incompetence to me.
Not knowing much about what is going to happen -- incompetence
99% sure when something is going to happen in 2 days, when ur way off -- incompetence
Not being prepared for unforesee issues -- incompetence
Not being able to estimate severity of variable factors,hence, no ETA -- incompetence
Going by the time stamp on the first user comment on each blog update:Wario64 said:Will Sony post an update on PS Blog tonight? Will the update say anything substantial? Bet your GAF accounts now!
apparently you can't bet your GAF accounts anymore
28th - 11:52pm EST
30th/1st - 1:15am EST
The 28th was Q&A questions, and the 30th was the conference.
At this point, I'd bet no.
corrosivefrost
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TChirath said:
I'm going to assume from these comments that you've never been a developer or tester on an actual product going to market.
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