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[dragonfart28]

The fact that you liked that fucking abysmal Goldeneye says more than anything about your desire to participate in the technical arms race.

It's true. I enjoyed it more than Battlefield: Bad Company 2 as well.

The horror!

 

[vermadas]

Just because the fidelity of a mouse isn't required doesn't mean it's not better. It just feels better to some people (myself included) to be able to move my vision rapidly around the screen rather than more rigidly via an analog stick. It feels more realistic; it enacts my exact will in a fluid and responsive way that a stick cannot. The game is also beautiful, regardless of whether the tech is fancy, and it's the most beautiful maxed out on a PC while running at twice the frame rate (or more) of the console version. I'm far from a PC master race sympathizer, but I'm very glad my first experience with Portal 2 was the best it could possibly be.

I guess it comes down to how much better mouse-look feels to you vs. using an analog stick. To me, there is a big difference, but not to the point where I feel crippled with a controller. It took me a long time before I felt somewhat comfortable controlling FPS games with dual analog. And for people who do the majority of their gaming on a PC and are not used to dual analog, I can definitely sympathize with waiting it out if they were in Amir0x's situation.

When I think about what I loved in Portal 2, I think about the incredible dialog and voice work. I remember the feelings of accomplishment when I solved all the puzzles on my own. To a lesser degree, I remember the great atmosphere. I do not think the game is beautiful, but it didn't have to be. The game looks great but it has more to do with Valve's clean art direction than anything else.

How is it out of hand? I don't arbitrarily lower my standards when something negative happens. That's like what Nintendo fans do to support their companies offensive abandoning of the technical arms race.

I have a simple standard: All console games must be at least 720p and locked at 30p. And whenever there is a PC version, I must play that one. It's not something I'm going to change. All it takes is me being patient for a few more days and I will get to experience the amazing Portal 2.

You are entitled to your standards and I don't think your position is an entirely bad one. I'm just trying to say, in the case of Portal 2, the inferior alternative is not really all that inferior. The longer you wait, the more you risk getting spoiled.

 

[offshore]

pffft, Granny Smith....Pink Lady apples are where it's at.

 

[panda21]

it depends if you are playing games to have fun or beat other people. if you just want to be better then i guess you could say mouse and keyboard is factually better.

when it comes to having fun (and is that not the point of games?), fun is entirely subjective. some people might have more fun playing fps games with the wiimote.

 

[Withnail]

AnalogyGAF is in fine form today. I suggest changing the thread title to:

PSN still down, how do you like them apples?

 

[dragonfart28]

pffft, Granny Smith....Pink Lady apples are where it's at.

But sour grapes are the best, lol

 

[Amir0x]

And I'm sorry to post and not see it in the reply window during my post, then. See edit: You bought the PS3 version for the extra copy. You didn't want the PS3 version in the first place then. Why didn't you just buy it off Steam then? Apparently the PS3 version isn't too important for you or the others that bought it to possibly flip the PS3 version to save cash on the game.

The PS3 version is not important; the simple, intelligent idea of getting two versions for the price of one is important. Seriously you'd have to have something seriously wrong with the mechanics to get one version when you could get two for the same price.

I'm curious about that as well. Did Ami buy Portal 2 at $60 (more than $15 above the PC/Steam version price) or did he wait for the K-mart sale like me and a few others did? If he waited, what is the big deal waiting? We're not the ones that were burned like the Day 3-13 guys were.

Of course I got it at a reduced price.

 

[Staticks]

well, that's probably why it's so difficult to comprehend the other perspective. Someone who holds such a bizarre opinion is clearly going to have difficulty accepting such things. The fact of keyboard+mouse precision, efficiency of commands and flexibility is obviously not going to change because you have difficulty acclimating to the control scheme, however. You must learn to sit down and get good at it. The learning curve is the only thing that is better on traditional pads.

Actually, to clarify, I should have stated that I'm perfectly capable of and accustomed to playing games with both control methods: the mouse as well as the analog controller. I simply meant to say I personally prefer the controller over a mouse + keyboard combination for enjoyment and comfort reasons (If only Irrational would make a SWAT game for consoles). I've played PC games since the old Quake days, so I'm not stranger to the mouse and keyboard, but I also have always been somewhat of an experimenter with joysticks and alternative control methods.

I actually disagree with you as to the learning curve difference. I think analog controls have a steeper learning curve (when it comes to controlling first-person games), and are more difficult to become expert with. It's just that millions of people had/have no choice.

 

[Amir0x]

It's true. I enjoyed it more than Battlefield: Bad Company 2 as well.

The horror!

Yes, the horror indeed.

List of neoGAF posters with gaming advice I should listen to has just been definitively reduced by one.

dragonfart28

The longer you wait, the more you risk getting spoiled.

I am not worried about that.

 

[brandonh83]

When the PSN Store comes back up, the background should be of Kaz and co.'s shame-bow

 

[TheSeks]

I'm sorry that your opinion isn't mine, but yes it does. The controller is so markedly inferior that on that alone it would destroy my experience. Add to that the various visual upgrades I'd get on the PC version and the experience is not something worth it.

I am glad it's not a problem for you, but I have no intention of lowering my standards to play an inferior copy of the game.

Then why did you buy the PS3 version in the first place, that's what many of us are getting at: If the experience is so piss-poor for you, why did you buy the PS3 version? Extra copy of the game or not.

I seriously can't get anal PC-GAF at times. If the experience is so much better on the PC version for you guys, why don't you just ignore the offers they make toward the consoles and just buy the PC version? It sucks when the developers ignore the PC version with DLC now, sure, but you get the "BESTESTESTESTEST" version in the trade off, don't you?

It's true. I enjoyed it more than Battlefield: Bad Company 2 as well.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T! *throws wine on you, stomps out of the thread someone hates BC2*

 

[Amir0x]

Then why did you buy the PS3 version in the first place, that's what many of us are getting at: If the experience is so piss-poor for you, why did you buy the PS3 version? Extra copy of the game or not.

I seriously can't get anal PC-GAF at times. If the experience is so much better on the PC version for you guys, why don't you just ignore the offers they make toward the consoles and just buy the PC version? It sucks when the developers ignore the PC version with DLC now, sure, but you get the "BESTESTESTESTEST" version in the trade off, don't you?

Because I am not a retard, and non-retards know getting two versions for the price of one is the only logical behavior.

 

[Soda]

Then why did you buy the PS3 version in the first place, that's what many of us are getting at: If the experience is so piss-poor for you, why did you buy the PS3 version? Extra copy of the game or not.

I seriously can't get anal PC-GAF at times. If the experience is so much better on the PC version for you guys, why don't you just ignore the offers they make toward the consoles and just buy the PC version? It sucks when the developers ignore the PC version with DLC now, sure, but you get the "BESTESTESTESTEST" version in the trade off, don't you?



OH NO YOU DIDN'T! *throws wine on you, stomps out of the thread someone hates BC2*

It's because they are angry that the keyboard+mouse wasn't originally invented for video games, no matter how many times they engineer it to be 'more ergonomic.' It's like they brush their teeth with a sponge glued to a spatula and call it better because they can cover more teeth per stroke.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

When the PSN Store comes back up, the background should be of Kaz and co.'s shame-bow

Free premium theme as part of the welcome back to PSN package!

 

[PjotrStroganov]

Then why did you buy the PS3 version in the first place, that's what many of us are getting at: If the experience is so piss-poor for you, why did you buy the PS3 version? Extra copy of the game or not.

I seriously can't get anal PC-GAF at times. If the experience is so much better on the PC version for you guys, why don't you just ignore the offers they make toward the consoles and just buy the PC version? It sucks when the developers ignore the PC version with DLC now, sure, but you get the "BESTESTESTESTEST" version in the trade off, don't you?



OH NO YOU DIDN'T! *throws wine on you, stomps out of the thread someone hates BC2*

Can't speak for amirox but for me it's interplatform co-op with two games for the price of one, and curiosity on how steam works on ps3.

Feel free to ignore.

 

[Ridley327]

Because I am not a retard, and non-retards know getting two versions for the price of one is the only logical behavior.

Three copies of Timecop for only $19.99!

 

[Amir0x]

Can't speak for amirox but for me it's interplatform co-op with two games for the price of one, and curiosity on how steam works on ps3.

Feel free to ignore.

for me it's the fact that my real life friends will want to co-op on the PS3 version, because they obviously won't be doing that on my PC. So it makes sense to get it, alongside the obvious reason of TWO VERSIONS for price of one

 

[goodcow]

I just want to buy Stacking.

 

[Dambrosi]

kb&m diss

Hey! You copied my avatar's conceptual design! I'ma gonna sue!

Seriously, though: "Final testing stages"? Well, see you next month, guys.

And @Ami: I'm assuming you're talking about Goldeneye Wii in your reply to dragonfart28, but what was so wrong with it? I kinda liked it, but I never played the original. Is it just nostalgia goggles?

 

[stupei]

Then why did you buy the PS3 version in the first place, that's what many of us are getting at: If the experience is so piss-poor for you, why did you buy the PS3 version? Extra copy of the game or not.

I seriously can't get anal PC-GAF at times. If the experience is so much better on the PC version for you guys, why don't you just ignore the offers they make toward the consoles and just buy the PC version? It sucks when the developers ignore the PC version with DLC now, sure, but you get the "BESTESTESTESTEST" version in the trade off, don't you?



OH NO YOU DIDN'T! *throws wine on you, stomps out of the thread someone hates BC2*

I really don't understand what's confusing people here. Dude got two things for the cost of one with the intent of playing one of the best games of the year on the superior hardware. Now because of Sony's fuck ups, he has not been able to do so yet. Your suggestion is he should change his plans and play the inferior version on Sony's machine? What is logical about that exactly?

I mean personally I couldn't hold out when I found a store that broke street date and I caved and played it on the console. But there were moments when I almost regretted it and wondered what the experience would have been like on better hardware. Now for me, I got over it, it was never that important to my perception of the game, but if someone has their heart set on playing it a certain way and they are being prevented from doing so because of other people's choices and mistakes, not their own, I'm not sure why it's stupid to stick to that ideal. He's answered your questions, more than once. What are you guys expecting to get out of asking over and over other than a means of relieving the PSN-less boredom?

 

[Amir0x]

Hey! You copied my avatar's conceptual design! I'ma gonna sue!

Seriously, though: "Final testing stages"? Well, see you next month, guys.

And @Ami: I'm assuming you're talking about Goldeneye Wii, but what was so wrong with it? I kinda liked it, but I never played the original. Is it just nostalgia goggles?

It was yet another game in the "I-wish-I-was-Call-of-Duty" genre of FPS, which are all dramatically worse than their inspiration and just totally lacking in creativity.

Also, the level design is all over the place, the A.I. is worse than the N64 original and the multiplayer - which is supposed to be a key feature of the Goldeneye title - is not something I'd play if it was free.

 

[Cels]

so what do people think is the likelihood of PSN being up before the weekend is over? 10%?

 

[NIghtWolf]

Haven't been posted yet?

Hackers point finger over Sony incursion
By Tim Bradshaw in London and Joseph Menn in San Francisco

Published: May 6 2011 18:56 | Last updated: May 6 2011 22:17

Two veterans of Anonymous have acknowledged that members of the cyber-activist group are likely to have been behind the recent hacking attacks on Sony, in spite of the group’s official denials.

An individual or handful of supporters of Anonymous’ well-publicised operation to disrupt Sony services – dubbed OpSony – went further than the rest of the free-speech campaigners expected when they broke into the electronics company’s network and stole account details, according to one person within the group.

Sony has said in a letter to the US Congress that it found evidence suggesting Anonymous’ involvement but has not directly accused the group of the crime, which exposed millions of customer accounts.

One Anonymous member told the FT that he saw technical details of a vulnerability in Sony’s network that enabled the break-in discussed on an Anonymous chat room, shortly before the intrusion.

“The hacker that did this was supporting OpSony’s movements,” the Anonymous activist told the FT

Another established member of Anonymous who participated in the hacking of security firm HBGary Federal, said it could well have been other members who subsequently hacked Sony.

“If you say you are Anonymous, and do something as Anonymous, then Anonymous did it,” said the hacker, who uses the online nickname Kayla. “Just because the rest of Anonymous might not agree with it, doesn’t mean Anonymous didn’t do it.”

Last month, Anonymous co-ordinated an electronic bombardment that briefly overwhelmed and shut down Sony’s PlayStation Network . There are reports that Anonymous may be planning a further attack against Sony this weekend.

US law enforcement agencies are already looking closely at Anonymous as part of their investigation into last month’s incursion, which put as many as 100m Sony customers’ personal details at risk.

“They are one of the key targets,” one source close to the case told the FT, though it is not the only possibility being explored. Earlier this week, Sony indicated that it found evidence that the amorphous group was involved in the hacking.

The admission by Anonymous members comes as reports emerged of a further planned attack against Sony’s systems this weekend.

Sony said in its letter to Congress that the hackers who penetrated one of its systems left a file titled “Anonymous” behind that contained part of the group slogan “we are legion”.

Just weeks before the breach, Anonymous publicly launched OpSony against the Japanese electronics company in retaliation for a lawsuit against a gamer who had modified his equipment.

Sony added that at a minimum, its security staff had been distracted fighting follow-on denial-of-service attacks when the criminal penetration occurred.

Sir Howard Stringer, chief executive of Sony, on Thursday apologised for the breach and promised to give customers identity protection services and insurance cover worth up to $1m.

Anonymous has officially denied responsibility, disavowing any financially motivated crimes, while allowing for the possibility that some of its members had gone beyond the established goals of hampering and shaming Sony.

“Let’s be clear, we are legion, but it wasn’t us. You are incompetent Sony,” Anonymous said on Thursday via one of its many blogs and Twitter accounts.

Its loose, anti-hierarchical organisation means that anybody can join it and act under its secretive umbrella. Normally, somebody posts an idea for a campaign on Anonymous’ chat rooms and if enough people support it, the group takes it on.

This amorphous nature has been useful to help Anonymous activists evade law enforcement, but the lax command structure can backfire when hacking information spreads to more run-of-the-mill criminals.

One Anonymous member said of the Sony hack: “So it’s Anon’s work. But you can’t blame the whole collective for what one or two guys do. We’re a gathering of Anonymous activists, not some scary organised hacking group. It was uncalled for this early in the fight.”

He claimed only a few Sony administrator accounts were stolen and distributed by the other members, though they could have been used later for wider theft of data.

Barrett Brown, an Anonymous member who has admitted to roles in other group operations, said that the postings in question could have been planted by enemies of the organisation.

But another Anonymous member said: “Of course, the ones behind Operation Sony started denying everything when FBI and Homeland security was put on the case ... because they were afraid they were going to get caught ... A few operators disappeared.”

It remains unclear what the actual fallout to Sony customers will be. The company has said that only 12,700 credit and debit card numbers were taken, and the passwords to user accounts were obscured through a technique called hashing, which might be hard to crack.

“No credit card information was ever exposed, neither was over 100 million accounts,” the Anon said. “They had access to their databases, yes, but nothing was downloaded except a few admin accounts. Nothing has been exposed, no one is selling anything.”

Source

 

[Dambrosi]

It was yet another game in the "I-wish-I-was-Call-of-Duty" genre of FPS, which are all dramatically worse than their inspiration and just totally lacking in creativity.

Also, the level design is all over the place, the A.I. is worse than the N64 original and the multiplayer - which is supposed to be a key feature of the Goldeneye title - is not something I'd play if it was free.

True, online multiplayer is lacking, but cut it some slack - it is on Wii, for goodness' sake.

And also, I thought most of the level design was lifted straight from the N64 original?

Older than Methuselah

Yeah, it's been posted.

 

[IonicSnake]

so what do people think is the likelihood of PSN being up before the weekend is over? 10%?

I say 0% today, 2% tomorrow.

 

[Shalashaska161]

Add this one to the long list of threads where people fight with Amirox for no reason.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Add this one to the long list of threads where people fight with Amirox for no reason.

Yeah, where the hell is the news of it being in final testing? I don't want to wade through all this bull.

 

[Amir0x]

Add this one to the long list of threads where people fight with Amirox for no reason.

I don't even know why

Is it that controversial to get two versions for the price of one? Who would choose the other option if you had the choice?

I didn't know PSN would be down

 

[DaBargainHunta]

I know we're all beyond frustrated about the status of PSN, but has this thread really devolved into yet another lame console vs. PC debate?

If someone prefers PC gaming, great. If you're a console person, wonderful. Who gives a shit either way?

And yes, the PS3 version of Portal 2 is the one to get because it includes the PC version for free. PSN issues notwithstanding, I'm having a hard time figuring out why anyone would be arguing that point. Seems to be the best of both worlds to me (when PSN comes back up, that is). And with the PS3 Portal 2 on sale now, it's even more of a no-brainer. Yeah, you'll have to wait for PSN, but that's life.

 

[Momo]

It's because they are angry that the keyboard+mouse wasn't originally invented for video games, no matter how many times they engineer it to be 'more ergonomic.' It's like they brush their teeth with a sponge glued to a spatula and call it better because they can cover more teeth per stroke.

lol

 

[KenOD]

There is no preference to the comment "keyboard+mouse is better for FPS games than a traditional pad." It's a fact.

How is it a fact? I'm not asking to challenge it one way or another, but I would love to see some information that backs that statement up via tests and studies. Just "a is better then b, that's a fact" just doesn't stand up well for me due to preference being such a strong issue.

Value wise, if it's there for collector's purpose on a shelf or you will actually use it. Yeah, great value. It's what most should do.
Just "it's two for one" and it's just going to sit there diminishing in value and take up space and that's the extent of what it'll do? That isn't worth the extra money to me. Just as I could buy two games and get one free, but if the free game is something I can never sell and would never play, it's not worth the bother.

 

[Dambrosi]

I don't even know why

Is it that controversial to get two versions for the price of one? Who would choose the other option if you had the choice?

I didn't know PSN would be down

Indeed, that's the choice I would've liked to have been able to make, but by the time I could buy it, PSN was down already. Pooh.

Oh well, maybe next month.

 

[IonicSnake]

I don't even know why

Is it that controversial to get two versions for the price of one? Who would choose the other option if you had the choice?

I didn't know PSN would be down

I agree, I see no reason not to buy the PS3 version that comes with the PC version for free for just 10$ more if you own a PS3. Nobody knew that PSN was gonna get shut down.

 

[Raoh]

I just want to buy Stacking.

that was free a month or two ago for ps+ members too

I downloaded it but haven't played it yet.

I always make it a point to download all the offerings when they are available. That's how I fell in love with comet crash. great game i technically didn't pay for.

 

[stupei]

Haven't been posted yet?



Source

This obviously can't be true; "Kayla" sounds like a girl's name and we all know there aren't any girls on the internet.

 

[mbmonk]

It's because they are angry that the keyboard+mouse wasn't originally invented for video games, no matter how many times they engineer it to be 'more ergonomic.' It's like they brush their teeth with a sponge glued to a spatula and call it better because they can cover more teeth per stroke.

Just because M + KB weren't designed with gaming in mind initially doesn't mean they can't be extremely effective in that role.

The analogy is way off. M + KB gives you controls that are more precise. So "covering more teeth" I think is a bit off. Assuming you are talking about both M + KB ( not just KB ) relative to FPS's.

I think a gamepad is much more flexible in terms of playing wider genre of games and I think it's a great default controller for any platform, but other devices can out perform it in niche areas ( FPSs, RTSs, Fighters, etc.).

 

[Amir0x]

How is it a fact? I'm not asking to challenge it one way or another, but I would love to see some information that backs it up via tests and studies. Just saying "a is better then b, it's a fact" doesn't mean much.

I'll try to find a link to that one study the Killzone devs (or some other dev, I forgot who) did a while back that put keyboard+mouse users against controller users and motion wand users.

Keyboard+Mouse is more accurate, precise and efficient and you have access to more possible buttons for hotkeys and it's far more flexible for layout. Whenever a developer puts the two against each other, it's not like it's close. Keyboard+Mouse users eviscerate controller users.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Yeah, where the hell is the news of it being in final testing? I don't want to wade through all this bull.

Read the OP?


Wario64 keeps that shit updated.

 

[NIghtWolf]

This obviously can't be true; "Kayla" sounds like a girl's name and we all know there aren't any girls on the internet.

True but girly nicknames are not uncommon on male users on the internetz lol.

 

[Cels]

I'll try to find a link to that one study the Killzone devs (or some other dev, I forgot who) did a while back that put keyboard+mouse users against controller users and motion wand users.

Keyboard+Mouse is more accurate, precise and efficient and you have access to more possible buttons for hotkeys and it's far more flexible for layout. Whenever a developer puts the two against each other, it's not like it's close. Keyboard+Mouse users eviscerate controller users.

idk maybe you're looking for this? but this is just a rumor, anyway

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ms-killed-pc-xbox-cross-platform-play

 

[mujun]

Then why did you buy the PS3 version in the first place, that's what many of us are getting at: If the experience is so piss-poor for you, why did you buy the PS3 version? Extra copy of the game or not.

I seriously can't get anal PC-GAF at times. If the experience is so much better on the PC version for you guys, why don't you just ignore the offers they make toward the consoles and just buy the PC version? It sucks when the developers ignore the PC version with DLC now, sure, but you get the "BESTESTESTESTEST" version in the trade off, don't you?

Why do you even care? He wants a free copy of the PS3 version. I can't understand why you are trying to make it out to be a decision he needs to defend.

 

[surly]

I agree, I see no reason not to buy the PS3 version that comes with the PC version for free for just 10$ more if you own a PS3. Nobody knew that PSN was gonna get shut down.

If I was the sort of person that wouldn't play a console game if a PC version exists, why would I pay $10 more so I can get a version of a game that I'll never play along with one that I will?

Keyboard+Mouse is more accurate, precise and efficient

The mouse is more accurate for pointing, but I don't know see how using WASD is better than using an analogue stick.

 

[Dambrosi]

This obviously can't be true; "Kayla" sounds like a girl's name and we all know there aren't any girls on the internet.

Indeed, especially since the rest of Anon would always demand to see her bare chest under threat of expulsion from the group. Dreadful behaviour. Dreadful, I say!

 

[DidntKnowJack]

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HOWARD I AM NOT YOUR FUCKING FRIEND
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Just seemed like one of those classic avatar tags.

 

[kinoki]

Wow. Almost an entire page consisting of only attacking Amirox.

If this is the madness 2 weeks without PSN causes I'm scared what will happen to NeoGAF if XboxLive goes offline.

 

[Amir0x]

If I was the sort of person that wouldn't play a console game if a PC version exists, why would I pay $10 more so I can get a version of a game that I'll never play along with one that I will?


The mouse is more accurate for pointing, but I don't know see how using WASD is better than using an analogue stick.

it depends on the genre.

For like a traditional action/adventure genre you probably won't need access to many buttons, so it's likely more comfortable and direct to just use a traditional pad.

When you get into RPGs, particularly wRPGs and MMORPGs, and FPS and RTS, that mouse+keyboard just blow away the competition. It's so dramatically superior that it's almost a shame to do a comparison. Unfair, you'd say.

Wow. Almost an entire page consisting of only attacking Amirox.

And it goes to show people love to attack me even for the most noncontroversial reasons.

Like, I am insane for getting two versions for the price of one

 

[xelios]

So one mod came along early in this thread and warns of derailing/console wars, then another comes along and... but I guess technically PC is not a console.

Spoiler

It's because we are all getting impatient.

 

[Amir0x]

So one mod came along early in this thread and warns of derailing/console wars, then another comes along and... but I guess technically PC is not a console.

Spoiler

It's because we are all getting impatient.

Don't even try that. My post was on topic - That I can't wait for PSN to come up so I can finally register and play Portal 2.

Other users consistently go haywire and derail with personal attacks and forcing me to repeat obvious answers because, I guess, the post is coming from a mod and it infuriates them that someone would not play a version of the game they own. Attack the source of the problem, not the ones who innocently share their honest opinions.

This sort of behavior is going to be culled soon, though. As soon as that FAQ topic gets unstickied, behavior like this is going to be much less tolerated. Discuss the points, not the person making them.

 

[IonicSnake]

If I was the sort of person that wouldn't play a console game if a PC version exists, why would I pay $10 more so I can get a version of a game that I'll never play along with one that I will?

Give/Lend it to a friend to play co-op with?

 

[IchigoSharingan]

I understand your preference for mouse and keyboard, I was brought up on the control method myself but do you honestly find it bizarre that there are people out there that prefer controllers over mouse and keyboard?

I have a few friends that were late to gaming and started playing games using a controller, one chap in particular I tried my best to get him into mouse and keyboard controls but he just couldn't gel with it, even after years of practise playing multi-player games at my house on my lan set-up he would still get 'flustered' with the controls at times and preferred a game pad, which I can understand as that is what he was introduced to and was normal to him.

Going from controllers to KB+M is like going from a 1996 Ford Taurus to a 2010 BMW 5-Series.