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PSP2 (Next Generation Portable) Announced, 2011, BC [Up3: Info In OP]

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Wait... so this thing is actually named "Next Generation Portable"? Remember how everyone used to call the current consoles "next gen" consoles back in 2005 and 2006? Does anyone call them that anymore? No, because pretty much every gamer has one, making them "current gen" consoles. So this thing will always be "Next Generation"? Even in like 2035?

WTF was wrong with PSP2?
 
Kodiak said:
You want buttons? We got buttons.

You want an analog stick? Fuck, how about two? Whatever.

You say you like twistin your system around like a dumbass? Boom we put a gyroscope inside this bitch.

Need to touch shit? We got you covered. Fuck, you can even touch the back too. That's some crazy shit. Why did we even put that there? I don't know.

You want 3G for downloading games and such? No problem. Just pay us some money or something, that shit ain't free.

You need graphics like you have at home you needy bitch? Sure, take 'em. We'll throw in a high res screen, too. Why not?

Fuck.
HA! XD
 
Had an odd thought re: flash card storage.

Does this mean that the PSP2 (or whatever) will actually load games faster than the PS3 and not require mandatory installs?

That would be hilarious if that proved to be the case.

As an aside, with the apparent level of detail they're able to pull off with a lowly ARM CPU, it's gotta be a hard sell trying to continue to push the ridiculously power-hungry, alien architecture of the Cell processor as something anyone would want to invest in in the future, as Sony keep insisting was part of their road map for Cell all along.

I am very curious, though, to see what the battery life is.

If Nintendo couldn't get the 3DS' above 6 hours, even with Nintendo's track record of placing a high priority on extending battery life, and that system only has last gen+ shaders level graphics...

Though, to be fair, Sony pulled off an amazing feat, making the original PS3 pretty damn silent, even managing an internal PSU, when compared to the original 360's jet engine external power brick. Hell, my launch 60 gig is still quieter than my brand new redesigned 360 S. One thing Sony *does* know is how to make streamlined consumer electronics.

Looking forward to the (hopeful) PSP price drops. Might finally pick one up.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Wait... so this thing is actually named "Next Generation Portable"? Remember how everyone used to call the current consoles "next gen" consoles back in 2005 and 2006? Does anyone call them that anymore? No, because pretty much every gamer has one, making them "current gen" consoles. So this thing will always be "Next Generation"? Even in like 2035?

WTF was wrong with PSP2?

Pretty sure it's just a working title.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Wait... so this thing is actually named "Next Generation Portable"? Remember how everyone used to call the current consoles "next gen" consoles back in 2005 and 2006? Does anyone call them that anymore? No, because pretty much every gamer has one, making them "current gen" consoles. So this thing will always be "Next Generation"? Even in like 2035?

WTF was wrong with PSP2?

It's just a codename. Makes me wonder if they're hesitating on calling it PSP2 though. Will be interesting to see.

(Perhaps not though - I remember at PS2's first unveiling, very similar to this in many ways - they referred to it as 'next generation playstation', but still ended up calling it PS2.)
 
i might completely switch to psp2 if this is region free

judging from the current situation this eill own japan pretty hard but will do meh in NA or Europe

so cheap localized games and some japanese games that stay there
 
amar212 said:
Well, you gotta love the sense of humor of the guy who came up with the lines for "chat party" in the NGP Official Concept Trailer:

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http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/sony-psp2-ngp-concept-footage
What sense of humour? You mean "FORZA"? Unlikely to be a jab at FM.
forza doesn't only mean strenght/power, it's very often used as "forza ragazzi!" = "c'mon guys!"
as you can see there's "c'mon" and "forza".
The other one is "evviva", which is an expression of joy that you could translate as a tamer "hell yeah!'.
 
As I expected, "PSP2" wasn't in Sonys mind when they showed NGP earlier today, and that was the codename.

So if they didn't name it PSP2 for this showing, it's probably not coming back in time for release. They don't want to have a portable with one number less than Nintendo 3DS (even though it's not the 3rd DS).

R.I.P PSP Brand?
 
How sold would you be on PSP2 if Sony took a hint from Steam and made it so if you buy the game on one system you have it on both?
 
Just caught up to all the news. How can this be real. The PS3 is enormous yet this is the PS3 as a handheld. What. Whatttttt

This will either cost $399 or have an abysmal battery life. Or both. But wow. What power for a handheld. I can't fucking believe 10 years ago we've come this far from GBA quality graphics at the palm of your hand.
 
brain_stew said:
So you use a bag for your phone as well? Because my portable system is no bigger than a phone.
I don't know what kind of portable system you are talking about or what kind of monstrosity of a phone you own, but here is my smart phone compared to a DSlite.

M6SWu.jpg


And I have to say that the HTC desire (the phone in the pic) is bordering on too large for pocketing. It's looks terrible, but for practically sake I have it in my pocket. The big difference is that a phone is essential and you need easy access. This rule does not apply to a dedicated gaming system.
 
Totakeke said:
This thing has vastly superior tech compared to the current gen of smartphones. Just think about that before you make a guess about pricing.
It's not that big a leap really. Its a simple doubling of the hardware that will be standard next year and the CPU and GPU account for a very small portion of the cost of a smart phone. The actual silicon used is extremely conservative compared to Sony's historic precedent.
 
lol at people thinking Next Generation Portable is the final name. I thought it was stated at the meeting it was just its code name?
 
Castor Krieg said:
Has nothing to do with cost of hardware, and everything with perceived value of the product. Sony will not sell it at break-even or at loss, after PS3 they need to sell for profit from Day 1.


Having said that, I'm happy Sony went tech route. This is Sony ffs, people that invented CD Player and walkman.

Sure, but they still need to compete. Even if they have to take a minor loss, I'm sure they would rather do that than give the system a bad name to begin with by pricing it way above the 3DS.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Wait... so this thing is actually named "Next Generation Portable"? Remember how everyone used to call the current consoles "next gen" consoles back in 2005 and 2006? Does anyone call them that anymore? No, because pretty much every gamer has one, making them "current gen" consoles. So this thing will always be "Next Generation"? Even in like 2035?

WTF was wrong with PSP2?

How's that Dolphin doing for you?
 
xbhaskarx said:
Wait... so this thing is actually named "Next Generation Portable"? Remember how everyone used to call the current consoles "next gen" consoles back in 2005 and 2006? Does anyone call them that anymore? No, because pretty much every gamer has one, making them "current gen" consoles. So this thing will always be "Next Generation"? Even in like 2035?

WTF was wrong with PSP2?

So far it's just a codename I think, but it might stick.
 
I like the direction Sony is taking with this. In particular, the crossplatform framework is a GREAT idea. Nintendo may have the edge on hardware cost - but being able to download smaller titles that run on both the PSP and my phone is very appealing.
 
I think the name Next Generation Portable is genious. I mean, they've already ridden that brand with PS3 and 360, shit's elite. If they can get it again for people to call it next gen 4 years into the generation, well that's genious.
 
Dash Kappei said:
What sense of humour? You mean "FORZA"?
forza doesn't only mean strenght/power, it's very often used as "forza ragazzi!" = "c'mon guys!"
as you can see there's "c'mon" and "forza".
The other one is "evviva", which is an expression of joy that you could translate as a tamer "hell yeah!'.

I know that, I am very familiar with both Italian and Spanish languages.

However, it is funny to use that particular word in context whichever way you take on it.

He could also put "Halo? Are you there?" in the trailer for sake of double-dip fun, would also be "normal" to see in usual conversatio, but hilarious inthe context itself.
 
Danielsan said:
I don't know what kind of portable system you are talking about or what kind of monstrosity of a phone you own, but here is my smart phone compared to a DSlite.

M6SWu.jpg
I use the only modern portable system on the market worthy of that description of course. I'm well aware that the NDS has a terrible design.
 
Just saw that it's just a placeholder name, ignore the freak out above...

But I just don't see why it would be called anything but PSP2. Brand names like PlayStation and Xbox take years and billions of dollars to build up, you don't abandon them without good reason.
If this ends up not being called the PSP2 does that mean it's possible the PSP4 will also get a new name?
 
xbhaskarx said:
Just saw that it's just a placeholder name, ignore the freak out above...

But I just don't see why it would be called anything but PSP2. Brand names like PlayStation and Xbox take years and billions of dollars to build up, you don't abandon them without good reason.
If this ends up not being called the PSP2 does that mean it's possible the PSP4 will also get a new name?

I honestly can't imagine it being called the PSP2, if that is was what it was going to be called then I have no doubt in my mind that's what they would of announced it as tonight, my guess is they still haven't finalist a name yet.
 
Danielsan said:
The fear of wearing a messenger bag appears to be an American thing. Just like scarfs I guess. I don't know who in his right mind would even put a DSlite/3DS in his pocket. Shit is just too large for pocketing.
Everyone is wearing skinny jeans nowadays anyways.
 
I've been a huge PSP2 skeptic ever since 3DS was revealed last year, with its surprisingly large lineup of "PSP-style" console franchises.

What Sony has just revealed... did absolutely nothing to allay my fears. The hardware design shows that they've learned very little from the last handheld gen, and I also didn't get the sense that they seem fully prepared to take on Nintendo. Sony needed to announce at least one or two actual, major third-party NGP games to take back mindshare from 3DS, not just show demos using reused PS3 assets and hope that "OMG HD GRAFIX" is enough to achieve that goal.

I don't see NGP bombing badly enough to force Sony to exit the hardware business, but right now, I would be surprised if it manages to sell more than, oh, two-thirds of PSP's lifetime sales.
 
brain_stew said:
It's not that big a leap really. Its a simple doubling of the hardware that will be standard next year and the CPU and GPU account for a very small portion of the cost of a smart phone. The actual silicon used is extremely conservative compared to Sony's historic precedent.

Well I was referring more to the other stuffs they decided to put in there. The 5" OLED for example. But I suppose you're right since it's launching in almost a year.
 
If Nintendo couldn't get the 3DS' above 6 hours, even with Nintendo's track record of placing a high priority on extending battery life, and that system only has last gen+ shaders level graphics...

Nintendo's biggest problem is the need to drive and light two displays at once. When the CPU/GPU aren't 15 years old like in the DS and you have a bigger 3D screen that HAS to be brighter to work, the same battery doesn't go as far. They should have bit the bullet and gone with a nice big battery. At $250 they could easily have afforded it.
 
Yoboman said:
How sold would you be on PSP2 if Sony took a hint from Steam and made it so if you buy the game on one system you have it on both?
That would be a dream come true. Won't happen unless it's Valve's games, but there is no steamworks for the PSP2...
 
Oh wow. I just read about the Playstation Suite. I was just thinking about that idea... yesterday. Because, while some people say mobile phones are the future and stuff, I didn't think so, because they don't really have a central place for lengthy, higher quality licensed games that separates from the sea of $3 games out there. But I decided there's no way that idea would come to fruition.

So that mews makes me happy.
 
Sorry if this has been asked, but how power-hungry are the components in this thing, exactly? I guess the OLED screen has low power consumption, and there is no 3D in this, so screen-wise I guess the PSP2 is okay? What about the CPU and the GPU?
 
Man, that thing is enormous. Can't say I like that at all.

Looks like it will be pretty expensive too. Not just the cost of materials, but the cost of distribution, labor, etc. My guess is $329.

I wonder if games will be $50?

At any rate, I certainly won't be buying it at launch.
 
amar212 said:
I know that, I am very familiar with both Italian and Spanish languages.

However, it is funny to use that particular word in context whichever way you take on it.

He could also put "Halo? Are you there?" in the trailer for sake of double-dip fun, would also be "normal" to see in usual conversatio, but hilarious inthe context itself.
Sicuramente, casuale o no, é piuttosto divertente hai ragione!
;)
 
SwiftSketcher said:
I wonder how easy it will be to develop games for this thing. Since it's so similar to the PS3, I wonder if it shares a similar architecture...
Pretty much as expensive. Hello 40-60$ handheld games
 
SwiftSketcher said:
I wonder how easy it will be to develop games for this thing. Since it's so similar to the PS3, I wonder if it shares a similar architecture...

It doesn't have a Cell and Spu's so I'll be easier to developed for.
 
Father_Brain said:
Sony needed to announce at least one or two actual, major third-party NGP games to take back mindshare from 3DS, not just show demos using reused PS3 assets and hope that "OMG HD GRAFIX" is enough to achieve that goal.
I guess you totally missed Monster Hunter and Call of Duty (as well as Hideo MGS dream project). It's the absolute biggest 3rd party games that could have been announced for the platform.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Wait... so this thing is actually named "Next Generation Portable"? Remember how everyone used to call the current consoles "next gen" consoles back in 2005 and 2006? Does anyone call them that anymore? No, because pretty much every gamer has one, making them "current gen" consoles. So this thing will always be "Next Generation"? Even in like 2035?

WTF was wrong with PSP2?

It's a placeholder name. Note the lack of branding on the actual demoed units.
 
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