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Qore Ep 6 inc HOME Closed beta invite

NameIess said:
Qore for Home beta = bullshit
Sony has been talking about Home for over a year and now want to charge people to experience it early; wtf... This beta bullshit just confirms Home will not launch until 2009 & yet another lie from Sony... I don't really care about Home, but hearing about it for over a year makes me yawn even more when it's finally released.
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Every beta from Qore so far has been available by other means. Quit whining.
 
Every issue of PSM has a redeem code for the new episodes of Qore... but the last one didn't include the R2 beta so I'm doubting the one for 6 will.
 
No more EU codes then?

Tbh, while I've thought it's looked great since GDC, the longer I wait the less I care.

I mean, Home had better be something special. Couldn't they have released a bare bones version yonks ago?! Which is what we'll probably get. :(
 
fistfulofmetal said:
Every issue of PSM has a redeem code for the new episodes of Qore... but the last one didn't include the R2 beta so I'm doubting the one for 6 will.
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Free codes from the mag exclude you from exclusive betas and such so I doubt gettin the free Qore 6 DL will let you in.
 
Home...what an incentive...

Dizzan said:
I'm stupid enough to but this episode.

You've so got me by the balls Sony.
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Pai Pai Master said:
Sony, you've dropped the ball on Home. Give it up.
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It's not like Home won't be a total frak up anyway. Avatar-based communities do not work!

And bullcrap on having to BUY a worthless "video magazine" just to get a BETA code. Users should NOT have to pay to be guinea pigs.
 
Lhadatt said:
It's not like Home won't be a total frak up anyway. Avatar-based communities do not work!

And bullcrap on having to BUY a worthless "video magazine" just to get a BETA code. Users should NOT have to pay to be guinea pigs.
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I don't think you got the memo, betas are not used to test things anymore, they are used for marketing
 
PS Home is like a MMORPG on a tiny scale, without the stats leveling, looting and adventuring. Sorry, Sony did some things which i felt they overachieved, such as the solid XMB, ever-improving PSN and the PS Store, but Home, is just another wasteful spending like Lair and Heavenly Sword. These money should have been spent on buying FF13 exclusive.
 
longdi said:
PS Home is like a MMORPG on a tiny scale, without the stats leveling, looting and adventuring. Sorry, Sony did some things which i felt they overachieved, such as the solid XMB, ever-improving PSN and the PS Store, but Home, is just another wasteful spending like Lair and Heavenly Sword. These money should have been spent on buying FF13 exclusive.
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As much as the XMB has been improved, why can't the same be said of Home when it's finally released? Sony just needs to get it out the door. That's the main problem.
 
longdi said:
These money should have been spent on buying FF13 exclusive.
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:lol

Gaming existed before Sony got in, you know... Teh Square's gotta make money. PS3 isn't the worldwide moneymaker they need to recoup costs on their over-budget nightmare.
 
longdi said:
PS Home is like a MMORPG on a tiny scale, without the stats leveling, looting and adventuring. Sorry, Sony did some things which i felt they overachieved, such as the solid XMB, ever-improving PSN and the PS Store, but Home, is just another wasteful spending like Lair and Heavenly Sword. These money should have been spent on buying FF13 exclusive.
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you're being too kind to Home
 
Lhadatt said:
It's not like Home won't be a total frak up anyway. Avatar-based communities do not work!

And bullcrap on having to BUY a worthless "video magazine" just to get a BETA code. Users should NOT have to pay to be guinea pigs.
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here is a hint: do not buy the magazine! do not try home... We will let you know how it is...
 
longdi said:
PS Home is like a MMORPG on a tiny scale, without the stats leveling, looting and adventuring. Sorry, Sony did some things which i felt they overachieved, such as the solid XMB, ever-improving PSN and the PS Store, but Home, is just another wasteful spending like Lair and Heavenly Sword. These money should have been spent on buying FF13 exclusive.
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Why do people keep talking about shit they know nothing about?
 
eznark said:
just hoping for a compelling experience
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It's a gaming Meeting/Matchmaking ground.

What exactly were you expecting?

akachan ningen said:
Didn't they say everyone would be able to download it FOR SURE in 08?
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OPEN beta near the end of the year. That's what they said.
 
Metalmurphy said:
It's a gaming Meeting/Matchmaking ground.

What exactly were you expecting?

OPEN beta near the end of the year. That's what they said.
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That's what they have delivered, but that isn't what it was hyped as.
 
Metalmurphy said:
It's a gaming Meeting/Matchmaking ground.

What exactly were you expecting?

OPEN beta near the end of the year. That's what they said.
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A gaming matchmaking that works directly from the xmb like half a year ago? a launch game solution from the XMB like half a year ago?
 
itxaka said:
A gaming matchmaking that works directly from the xmb like half a year ago? a launch game solution from the XMB like half a year ago?
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But that's not what HOME is. So why complain here? Complain in the firmware threads...

eznark said:
That's what they have delivered, but that isn't what it was hyped as.
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Care to elaborate?
 
Metalmurphy said:
But that's not what HOME is. So why complain here? Complain in the firmware threads...
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That is the only good thing I can get out from home experience and it's not working properly yet so...

If I want to meet people to game with I rather do it on gaf, or while playing check out some players but not in a limited to 64, sims like environment.

In forums you can check present and past of the poster and get to know them, on gaming sessions you can find good players, cheaters, or people that play for fun and pick them there. In home you can find 20 people dancing with big ZZZZ on top of theirs heads.

Sorry but home got me really dissapointed.
 
Metalmurphy said:
Care to elaborate?
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Sure, without looking up specifics, you can look at Home itself and see that it wants to be more than what it is and is trying to be more than an avatar based matchmaking service.

They have tried to add things to make the space compelling like the Uncharted and Far Cry bars. You have your own house, ostensibly to decorate I suppose. There are arcade games and pool tables and some talk of watching videos with friends.

Clearly Sony is/was trying to make Home a compelling experience on its own, aside from it's apparent main function of matchmaking.

Go back and listen to some 1up yours from around the time Home was announced, and some discussions thereafter to see what it's been hyped as.
 
eznark said:
Sure, without looking up specifics, you can look at Home itself and see that it wants to be more than what it is and is trying to be more than an avatar based matchmaking service.

They have tried to add things to make the space compelling like the Uncharted and Far Cry bars. You have your own house, ostensibly to decorate I suppose. There are arcade games and pool tables and some talk of watching videos with friends.

Clearly Sony is/was trying to make Home a compelling experience on its own, aside from it's apparent main function of matchmaking.

Go back and listen to some 1up yours from around the time Home was announced, and some discussions thereafter to see what it's been hyped as.
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I meant, care to elaborate on what it was hyped to be and not in what's "supposedly" becoming.
 
You said it's a matchmaking service, I said that isn't what they hyped it as and offered examples as to what they were hoping to make the experience.

I'm not sure what you're looking for?
 
eznark said:
You said it's a matchmaking service, I said that isn't what they hyped it as and offered examples as to what they were hoping to make the experience.

I'm not sure what you're looking for?
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oO it's a pretty simple question.

You said home is not what they hyped it to be. What exactly did they hyped it to be then?
 
eznark said:
You said it's a matchmaking service, I said that isn't what they hyped it as and offered examples as to what they were hoping to make the experience.

I'm not sure what you're looking for?
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I'm sorry to say that I'm struggling to see your point. Home is meant to engender a sense of community on PSN. The only reasonable metric for this is surely how active the community is.
 
kevm3 said:
As much as the XMB has been improved, why can't the same be said of Home when it's finally released? Sony just needs to get it out the door. That's the main problem.
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The problem is that people got tired of waiting for SOCOM (online only game) and look how much of a mess its online was early on (lots of issues), and it will take time to fix all issues. That is why Home isn't out yet because it still has many issues, and if people experienced them, they'd be complaining even harder.

The entire reason Sony is working on Home is to differentiate PS3 from 360. There's no denying that most people feel there's no difference between PS3 and 360, except one is cheaper. Even if FFXIII and Tekken 6 were still exclusives, 360 still has RPGs and fighters that are exclusive. Both have some sort of achievement system, both have in-game messaging, and so on. Basically, Sony needs something to really make them stand out (outside of playing blu-ray movies), and that's why they invested in Home so much, because it's something you will not find on a competitor's console.

Personally, I think with PS3, Home will never completely be finished (but will be pretty far along and basically everyone is in it), but with Sony's next console, it will be fully integrated and work very well (because it's up and all). So if anything, it will be a great long term investment.
 
eznark said:
Look around Home. You can see the shell of what they were hoping Home would be, as I stated earlier.
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wow oO You actually haven't stated anything specific.

Seems like were hitting a language barrier here oO

I dunno how much clearer I can make it.
 
freethought said:
I'm sorry to say that I'm struggling to see your point. Home is meant to engender a sense of community on PSN. The only reasonable metric for this is surely how active the community is.
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I agree with you, which is why I expected the Home experience to be compelling in some way, how else would the community be actively engaged by it?

Apparently that is the incorrect way to judge it however, as it's just a matchmaking service according to metalmurphy.
wow oO You actually haven't stated anything specific.

Seems like were hitting a language barrier here oO

I dunno how much clearer I can make it.
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I don't have any specifics because it would require me to do some small amount of research to look up exact quotes in order to further a message board argument. If you are claiming that Home hasn't been hyped as something more than a matchmaking service then we have clearly had different take aways from the information Sony has provided on Home.
 
I bought qore episode 3 just for the resistance beta and never got a code for it. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. No thanks on the qore episode unless they refund my 3 dollars for the last one i bought.
 
BoilersFan23 said:
Personally, I think with PS3, Home will never completely be finished (but will be pretty far along and basically everyone is in it), but with Sony's next console, it will be fully integrated and work very well (because it's up and all). So if anything, it will be a great long term investment.
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Cosidering there will be game spaces added in an ongoing fashion as games get released, yes, Home will never be finished.
And features are always added, and will be in Home, just like the XMB is improving, and Live is improving as it matures, so will Home.

If Home comes out it needs to at minimum have everything the XMB offers right now. A party system a la Resistance 2 would also be great, and that's what it seems they are working on and have shown with Motorstorm and Warhawk.

I dont have Home, but if it comes out with all the XMB features today, I would enjoy it. What they also need is to integrate life with Playstation, essentially turning home into the world's Mainichi Isso, go on every day to read news, check weather, in your own customizable apartment, from which you can transition to a game matchmaking world and individual game spaces.
 
eznark said:
I don't have any specifics because it would require me to do some small amount of research to look up exact quotes in order to further a message board argument. If you are claiming that Home hasn't been hyped as something more than a matchmaking service then we have clearly had different take aways from the information Sony has provided on Home.
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I've been following home every since they announced it. And you don't need exact quotes. You just need some examples which you still haven't provided.


But here, I'll do it for you. There are only 2 things missing from what Sony "hyped", that's the Hall of Fame, which is still happening, and the media sharing, which is also still happening as far as pictures goes. No word on music and videos. That's it, everything else they delivered.

xray49er said:
I bought qore episode 3 just for the resistance beta and never got a code for it. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. No thanks on the qore episode unless they refund my 3 dollars for the last one i bought.
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Single episode buyers get the code at a later date. Subscribers get it earlier. No one is fooling you.

But if you're really that upset just email Sony, they got plenty of codes to spare.
 
eznark said:
I agree with you, which is why I expected the Home experience to be compelling in some way, how else would the community be actively engaged by it?

Apparently that is the incorrect way to judge it however, as it's just a matchmaking service according to metalmurphy.
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Sorry to keep banging on but surely the community itself is what's meant to compel you to log in. You seem to be ready to write it off without ever actually experiencing it.

If I may, can I ask what keeps you coming back to GAF? I doubt it's the layout or typeface.
 
xray49er said:
I bought qore episode 3 just for the resistance beta and never got a code for it. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. No thanks on the qore episode unless they refund my 3 dollars for the last one i bought.
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Do you receive emails of stuff you purchased from the PS Store? I ask because some people who registered for PSN around a certain time period, if they entered their PSN-ID on any online site, it will not work (but works on PS3). I know when some finally changed their email addresses (using the PS3), they started receiving emails of all their PSN purchases and wallet additions. After that, every purchase through PSN was given a receipt and the email worked anywhere online (like on MyBuzz, PS Store for PC, etc.).

I know the issue to be serious since some forgot their password, and weren't able to recover it due to PSN not having their email on file. I believe that's why some didn't get their Qore betas.
 
freethought said:
Sorry to keep banging on but surely the community itself is what's meant to compel you to log in. You seem to be ready to write it off without ever actually experiencing it.

If I may, can I ask what keeps you coming back to GAF? I doubt it's the layout or typeface.
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I don't know why you think I haven't experienced it.
 
I don't care what some people say about Home but the truth is that I already spent more time on Home (and had more fun with it) than with a lot of $60 retail games, and it's free.

From furnishing my flat (WTF is wrong with the furniture limit? seems too low IMO) to having Rave parties by the Jukebox on the plaza (don't make fun of it until you see 15+ people dancing with colorful affros and making all kind of funny comments :lol ) to playing arcades and bowling. And of course, both the Uncharted area and the arcade are pretty sweet.

I was not hyped for Home at all but I think I understand what Sony is doing with it. They are giving us a place to meet with (or make new) friends and play online games. That's all.

So, instead of bitching about Home we should be thinking about making a GAF space in there. That would make Home a fucking MUST HAVE for all of us. And would be fucking amazing too :D
 
eznark said:
I don't know why you think I haven't experienced it.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I assumed you were in the beta from the outset. Don't you think your Home experience will change when all your friends can access it. Or when GAF get's a hold of it. How would GAF hold up with a community that's a fraction of the size. As I said, home will live or die by its community and whatever you may think, you haven't experienced that yet. Unless you thought Sony were promising a compelling single player experience.
 
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