As a fan of the xmen comics...speak for yourself. Also talking about whoring out wolverine like that isn't true to the comics? There is nothing MORE true to xmen than that.
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Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch - Do X-Men or Avengers deserve them more?
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Hot Coldman
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Whoever does the puzzle scene first, of course.
Check your facts before you open Threads, they were introduced in X-Men 4 as Member of the evil Brotherhood of mutants and joined the Avengers in Avenger 16 not before May 1965.
Yes, but Scarlet Witch was never an official X-Man. I think Quicksilver was for about a second in one of the scores of crappy X-Men comics made when the series slid into incoherence.
So, The Avengers.
ViewtifulJC
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About 90% of Scarlet Witch's character development/appearances are in Avengers comics.
Mighty Chin
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And they didn't even do that.
Thats not how it works.
Winterfang
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They are shit characters, I'm surprised they even got on the big screen.
They were X-Men Villains. They were Member of the Brotherhood of the Mutants. The source of their Power is mutation. They are refered every fucking time as mutants.
They are the same way X-Men property related characters as they are Avengers related property.
This reminds me why I do not discuss comics with comic book fans.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were bit players in X-Men comics. They were central figures for The Avengers. I understand their origin, but I'd prefer to cite their histories.
Their histories are in the X-Men. Their origins is an X-Men story, not an Avengers story.
I mean what is the point of them without the storyline of them being mutants Magneto being their father? They are just random twins with random unexplained powers with no origin if you take the X-Men aspect from them. The Magneto aspect is VERY central to their characters. And most of Scarlet Witch's major storylines in the comics revolve around her relationship with Magneto.
Yes, Wandas "No more Mutants" and the whole Fallout has nothing to do with X-Men.
No offense, but I don't think you read many comics involving them.
Escape Goat
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If you're asking which company has a stronger claim to them I'd say Marvel does. But you can't totally strip away their mutant backstory without losing some rich history.
cj_iwakura
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But preferably I'd say the X-Men, or tie them together. I hope this separate company nonsense stops soon.
But preferably I'd say the X-Men, or tie them together. I hope this separate company nonsense stops soon.
Sorry Escape I am going to disagree with you on that.
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X-Men definitely
-They have a better and more sensible history with them
- And they're fuckin muties.
edit: maybe not scarlet
-They have a better and more sensible history with them
- And they're fuckin muties.
edit: maybe not scarlet
Escape Goat
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Lets fight about it. Behind the bleachers after school.
I have. Their origin are that they are mutant born children whose father is Magneto who then takes them in without knowing they are his children. To say their origin isn't mutant and Magneto focused is wrong.
Saying Magneto isn't central to the twins origin is like saying Uncle Ben isn't central to Spider-Man's origin. Or Bruce's parents aren't central to Batman's origin.
B_Spooky13
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Fox needs to quit being little babies just give Marvel the rights to everything Marvel or at least let them use some of the characters. While Fox does have a few good hero movies, most of them kinda stink.
I want to see Hugh Jackman play Wolverine in a Avengers.. or at least a cameo or something.
And if a Deadpool movie does get made I don't want Fox's stink all over it
I want to see Hugh Jackman play Wolverine in a Avengers.. or at least a cameo or something.
And if a Deadpool movie does get made I don't want Fox's stink all over it
Fox. Evan Peters absolutely owned the role of Quicksilver. Marvel meanwhile is stuck with one of the worst actors in Hollywood playing the character.
Looking at it more objectively I'd still say Fox since Marvel has a million other popular superheroes to use. Fox needs the characters more. Or just give them to Sony so they can create more Spider-man spinoffs.
Looking at it more objectively I'd still say Fox since Marvel has a million other popular superheroes to use. Fox needs the characters more. Or just give them to Sony so they can create more Spider-man spinoffs.
You're trying too hard
I got glee after school.
They didn't find out Mags was there father for years, and when they did they were pretty meh about it. Quicksliver was down with the Inhumans, and Scarlet Witch was doing her thing with Vision. Hell Magneto laments he never spent any real time with them.
I believe the nonsense with the cow and etc. for the twins' origin was handled in Avengers. I may be wrong.
I understand the link to X-Men.
Phoenician_Viking
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Scully trolling. This is a first.
Those characters meant much more to the Avengers than they ever did to the X-Men aside from Magneto being their father. Not to mention that in the case that Fox is looking to build up some major players in the X-Men franchise, I would hope that they turn their gaze towards underutilized classic X-Men characters rather than D-listers (as far as X-Men is concerned) like QS and SW.
ViewtifulJC
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and all the major fallout stories for Wanda's redemption from House of M were AVENGERS Crusade, AVENGERS vs X-Men, and Uncanny AVENGERS...
Capitalizing the word Avengers does not negate the fact two of the 3 titles you mentioned are X-Men titles too. Avengers vs X-Men and Uncanny Avengers are X-Men/Avengers team up titles. The Uncanny in Uncanny Avengers is referencing Uncanny X-Men since half the team are x-men.
Mighty Chin
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Not called The Mighty X-Men
ViewtifulJC
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I hope I pass.
Sibersk Esto
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Marvel, cause Scarlet Witch needs to inspect Vision's nuts and bolts
Killing_Joke
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I'll wait till i see Avengers 2. But i wouldn't be surprised if they are used horribly.
Mighty Chin
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Beast Hank McCoy was a longtime Avenger. Surprised he's not allowed to be used in Avengers.
I think there it's the fact that he's one of the '05' X-Men that stops that.
Or the fact that he was a much bigger member of the X-Men than he ever was of the Avengers. He is one of the original 5.
RocketRacoon
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They aren't X-Men though.
If Fox did a Madrox X-Factor though...
If Fox did a Madrox X-Factor though...
Marvel comics backgrounds are so incestuous that you can make the case that almost any character is tied to the X-Men or vice versa.
Scarlet Witch is more important to the Avengers than she is to the X-Men. She is one of their primary members. Quicksilver has spent more time with other groups like X-Factor, but he also had a lengthy run as an Avenger.
Scarlet Witch is more important to the Avengers than she is to the X-Men. She is one of their primary members. Quicksilver has spent more time with other groups like X-Factor, but he also had a lengthy run as an Avenger.
Yes, I know. I should have wrote hero careers, not the other way around. I'm well aware they started as villains.
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