Lostconfused
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My mistake then. Thought it was in house.WHOAguitarninja said:
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RAGE = id Software's Half-Life 2
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Barberetti
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angular graphics said:
I take it that's what the Crysis devs did then? What was their reasoning for it, and is there any evidence that id will do the same?
You are very funny. Did I tell that you are very funny? You are funny.Deadbeat said:
at OP, No, They have very different aesthetic and plot progression. Also, thee mission are structured very differently. Also, thematically they are very different. HL focuses on the organic envirounment to tell its story while Rage focuses on the social realism to induce its emotive plot.
darkpaladinmfc
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Apparently Rage can only do 4xAF.BigTnaples said:
Lostconfused
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No that's what the Bulletstorm team did. You could tweak a lot of settings in Crysis 2 with cvars. Until they patched that in a meaningless attempt to prevent cheating in multiplayer.Barberetti said:
That's just bullshit. Rage looks fantastic by 2011 standards while pushing a higher framerate on consoles than most games. Even Call of Duty is just "kind of 60 fps" with plenty of slowdown throughout. If Rage looks like what we've seen and really does hold 60 fps 99% of the time, it will be one of the best looking games this gen. Even on the PC, I think the solidarity of the visual design will cement this.sp3000 said:
Crysis 2 was even more of a console port than Rage and it looked and ran better than just about any other PC game on the market.
Foliorum Viridum
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Awful ME screenshots and pretty bullshot RAGE screenshots. Let's show what ME really looks like, from my FRAPS folder:BigTnaples said:
If RAGE looked half as good as that then it would be an improvement. You need glasses.
Not to mention I can play Crysis at 2048x1152, on Very High with 4xAA and maintain a consistent framerate of over 40 and it still looks 10x better than RAGE... nearly 4 years later. You can bang on about it not being quite 60fps, but 40 feels very good and with such a huge graphical increase over RAGE it's even more impressive.
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StuBurns said:
Agree to disagree then, I think those are all great looking games, but I think Rage looks better, if not just for the overall smooth painting like quality it has.
Lostconfused said:
I could have picked a couple without that JUST showed the city, but I could probably due the same to Rage if I had some screens like that. I did not say the devs had no technical prowess, I just meant that the fact that Mirrors Edge looks so good is largely due to its art style, not that it has some amazing tech over all the other UE3 games.
What? First off those screens are not from 2007 and where WAY past when they said it was running at 60FPS.sp3000 said:
angular graphics
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Barberetti said:
Bullestorm (ex-Painkiller) devs this so that you don't alter eg your health or the damage you do etc.
Crysis 2 devs locked the commands from the console and you had to create an extra config file where again, not all the commands worked.
Singularity devs encrpyted the standard UE3 settings as well IIRC.
It's a trend..
WHOAguitarninja
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With Rage running at 60 on consoles...i'm wondering if i can get it running at 120fps on the PC. Hopefully the framerate isn't capped, although i'm pretty sure i remember the console command to uncap it in any case.
And none of them shipped the full editor in the box, either. What is your point?
angular graphics said:
And none of them shipped the full editor in the box, either. What is your point?
Foliorum Viridum
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Oh I'm not going to argue it's a technical beast, but he said it LOOKS worse than RAGE, which I wholeheartedly disagree with.DarkChild said:
It's also linear vs open world etc etc.
Foliorum Viridum
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Squid.Epix said:
I used to think it was ID for ages until I first heard it said.
angular graphics
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WHOAguitarninja said:
RAGE isn't shipping with one either.
I played Mirrors Edge maxed out on PC and on PS3.It didn't look really all that great.Yes,it was nice to look at for half an hour,but after you see that all it has is great lighting and texture work it wears off. RAGE seems to have pretty amazing animation work,lots of variety,beautiful vistas etc and being 60fps.Foliorum Viridum said:
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StuBurns said:
Actually my post read as this.
Maybe I could rephrase that as 1080p and or 1680x1050 and above, to get more specific.
There are so many different monitor resolutions 1440x900 etc, I suppose I SHOULD have been more specific.
So no, doubling those framerates would not be applicable. And I am not arguing that Crysis 2 at 60 FPS does not look better than Rage. It does, and that is a non issue.
What I AM saying, is that Rage looks great at 60fps on inferior hardware, which although is a different approach, is still just as impressive.
Here is the first thread that pops up when googling
Crysis 2 dx11 benchmarks
Not many people in there getting solid 60fps even with pretty monster like rigs.
Death Dealer
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Demigod Mac said:
Hell I thought that was true back in 2004. Neither game quite lived up to the hype. Doom 3 had the graphics and tight gunplay, but the plodding corridor feel to the levels didn't quite have the same thrill of the originals. HL2 was like a movie but was a bit too linear and the puzzles and enemy AI too basic. I liked them both at the time. Doom 3 was more challenging. Meaning it is easier to die. I thought HL2 was too easy and felt short. When it ended I was like, that's it ?
I think Rage will be in the realm of the quality of those games. I don't put HL2 on the same pedestal as some. HL 1, yes. But 2 wasn't as great.
I'm hoping Doom 4 returns to the frantic pace and overwhelming odds of the 90s Doom games. I want them to target allowing the engine to render tons of enemies on screen at once. I guess 30 fps has to do with that.
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Foliorum Viridum said:
I agree that it looks worse. Sure the textures are more detailed, but its also one of the most sterile looking games I can think of. By design of course, but it makes it very visually uninteresting aside from the nice lighting.
I think Rage looks dramatically better in motion than in screens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0t9Xo2ffjk
I think the portion at the beggining walking around town looks really really good. Even at 30fps. It'll look fantastic at higher framerates.
I NEED SCISSORS
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If anything I think RAGE's visual appeal relies more on the artistic than the technical. Even Carmack has been making a big deal about the "freedom that is now given to artists" (which you then crush under a 512mb RAM fist lol).
These shots of Crysis 2, for example, have far more going on technically than any shot from RAGE thus far, even if I think RAGE is more appealing to look at.
(credit to all who supplied the shots)
These shots of Crysis 2, for example, have far more going on technically than any shot from RAGE thus far, even if I think RAGE is more appealing to look at.
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(credit to all who supplied the shots)
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Lostconfused said:
Ah right, thanks.
angular graphics said:
Doesn't sound like a trend to me. What reasons did these companies give? Is there any evidence that id will do the same?
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Its squid, but say Eye-D, it sounds better.
I'm playing Ep2 right now, and while I enjoyed HL2 when it was released (for the most part) Ep2 is probably the most overrated game in existence. Its a "pretty good" game but because its considered godlike, thats a tremendous discrepancy. The first 2 hours are such a pain, its not until you reach the broken highway segment that it starts to pick up. I appreciate what valve tries to do with the storytelling and one continuous journey, hell I wish most devs did this, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired.
As for the length argument, Steam says Ive played 4 hours and Im at the trapped house, so there is probably still an hour or two left of gameplay.
I'm playing Ep2 right now, and while I enjoyed HL2 when it was released (for the most part) Ep2 is probably the most overrated game in existence. Its a "pretty good" game but because its considered godlike, thats a tremendous discrepancy. The first 2 hours are such a pain, its not until you reach the broken highway segment that it starts to pick up. I appreciate what valve tries to do with the storytelling and one continuous journey, hell I wish most devs did this, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired.
As for the length argument, Steam says Ive played 4 hours and Im at the trapped house, so there is probably still an hour or two left of gameplay.
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jett said:
Nails must be put into the coffin of this "id tech 5 engine is technically comparable to Cry Engine 3" argument. And even if it somehow is, it just doesn't show it. At all.
And you know, if people don't want to load them, they can just press that little 'X' up in the top left of their browser. It's what it's there for.
angular graphics
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jett said:
These look downsampled tbh to the point their flaws are hard to notice.
Compare this:
to this:
I just downsampled.
Looks way nicer.