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Rage quitting in SFV, why isn't this fixed??
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I haven't been following SF5 at all the past few months but this is inexcusable for Capcom. It's as if this was their first fighting game or something. It should be common sense for any developer, but even more-so for them.
There shouldn't have even been a point in time where it was possible to quit and not have anything happen, should have been coded in from the start. Especially with how lame gamers have become over the last two generations of consoles, quitting for every little thing without even trying to stick it out till the end. If you keep running every time you get your ass whooped, how do you expect to get better?
There shouldn't have even been a point in time where it was possible to quit and not have anything happen, should have been coded in from the start. Especially with how lame gamers have become over the last two generations of consoles, quitting for every little thing without even trying to stick it out till the end. If you keep running every time you get your ass whooped, how do you expect to get better?
The Lone Dragon
Member
Fix is in the works, but for now send videos of rage quitters to Capcom:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/blog/2016/02/26/sfv-post-launch-status-update-vol-5
http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/blog/2016/02/26/sfv-post-launch-status-update-vol-5
cormack12
Gold Member
That's pathetic. Surely they track stats? Can't be hard to run a database report sorted by 'DNF%' descending rather than sifting through video after video?
Again, this isn't Capcom's first go at the fighting game rodeo. Why on Earth wasn't a fix being worked on before the first beta? Completely unacceptable from a company that has dabbled in fighting games, much less one that makes the "premier" fighting game franchise.
Wait ... if someone quits against you, you don't get the benefit of the win? That's messed up.
Re: the person who said a loss should be punishment enough - if there's no distinction between losing and quitting, it will encourage defeatist attitudes where people will dc at the first sign of trouble thinking they lost rather than staying till the end in hopes of comebacks. Similar reason why Dota 2 doesn't have surrender for online players but allows early ggs in competitive tournament matches. Online players will surrender too quickly thinking they lost even though the game has mechanics that allow you to pull through even if you have a significant health deficit.
That's why there's a whole thread about it. If it still attributed a win to you, I don't think people would be so ticked off.
katsubento
Member
You probably shouldn't be playing fighting games if you can't lose. It's the only way to get better.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
You know capcom could have avoided all this if they just released a few betas before release to get some insight on how the game would work in the live community.
They did lol. And lots of people rage quitted like they do now. Don't know what Capcom smoked when they released SF V without measures against ragequitting.
Good point.
I can't remember which game did it, but I like the idea of matchmaking quitters with quitters. Like if you have a quit percentage below 90% say goodbye to playing with anyone who has a quit percentage above that.
That clip and the footage that precedes it are unrelated - it's a joke. the Eileen player was playing against CPU.
SixMachine
Member
What game were they playing that made him throw the stool? Granted it's not as crazy as slashing someone with a knife after getting OCV by Benimaru but the context must have been pretty rage inducing to involve the patented Boondocks chair throw.
CrispyBoar
Banned
Which is why I won't bother picking up the game until in June when everything is finished & complete. Even then, it's going to be a used copy.
I'm not giving Capcom a penny for these practices.
I wonder about this too. At first I thought it was people physically pulling the plug, but to see it apparently happen so often, it seems like there would have to be an easier way. Maybe they're just quitting the game quickly.
Would that even work? Guide button then quit application?
yea, along with alt f4 on the pc
thelastword
Banned
That system was decent and if implemented now it would deter the majority of ragequitters...since points determine rank....however, the problem with that system was.... it never registered the loss for the quitter and never rewarded the non-quitter. The Rage Quitter lost some points but his streak still remained, in his mind, he could make the points back and the records show no loss for him, so perhaps that was a win for him. So there were still ways in which that system could get better. In SFV however, not only do you not get a loss, you also don't lose points. So it's a double whammy affair....
In my opinion, if the winner (non quitter) is suppose to gain 65 points, the system should reward him those points and take away double that from the rage quitter (130LP), mark him with a loss and there should also be a system that clearly marks out their tendency to quit. I'm also thinking there should be soft bans if you quit too much......5 disconnects.....12-24 hour ban.. etc,, etc...
Alt F4 on the pc like already mentioned.
Deactivating your network on your pc also works pretty well.
In terms of the PS4 you can easily control most router/modems via your browser and just reset the connection.
chicko1983
Member
its fucking shit. I get to 1000LP by working my arse off.
Then all of a sudden, on around Saturday, everyone one I play I either lose or beat and they RQ, so now I am at 700LP pretty much because I cannot win, only lose LP.
Its fucking shit.
Then all of a sudden, on around Saturday, everyone one I play I either lose or beat and they RQ, so now I am at 700LP pretty much because I cannot win, only lose LP.
Its fucking shit.
It must be really easy on PS4. Happens pretty much instantly with the deadly touch. And I'm sure they're not all sitting next to the cable.
hitsugi
Member
How many of you have played in an arcade before? And beaten someone so badly they walked away from the machine before the match was over?
Rage quitting is a hybrid of a few things: Pure frustration for some, a desire to protect points for others, and maybe some kind of a "fuck you" as well. I've had people DC on me after / during the first round..
Capcom requesting for people to submit videos demonstrates that they (likely) have no way to detect when this is occurring right now, and that's sad. If they were to implement a system where the person who doesn't quit gets a win / points by default, it would be possible to abuse that system. The person who quits has to take the loss as well. Whether or not they get a title or jail time or whatever is a whole other (and far less important) matter.
Valle had the right idea - implement a proper system and wipe the board clean.
Rage quitting is a hybrid of a few things: Pure frustration for some, a desire to protect points for others, and maybe some kind of a "fuck you" as well. I've had people DC on me after / during the first round..
Capcom requesting for people to submit videos demonstrates that they (likely) have no way to detect when this is occurring right now, and that's sad. If they were to implement a system where the person who doesn't quit gets a win / points by default, it would be possible to abuse that system. The person who quits has to take the loss as well. Whether or not they get a title or jail time or whatever is a whole other (and far less important) matter.
Valle had the right idea - implement a proper system and wipe the board clean.
Already Torn
Banned
Dude, just rage quit. Not really, but that's solve your problem.
You could just close the game app, right?
RedAssedApe
Banned
ZeroTheShadow
Member
They can't wipe the board clean because the board has your fight money attached to it.
Already Torn
Banned
You wipe LP, not FM.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
And what if your disconnect was legitimate? lol...
Unless they have a way of telling what is a genuine disconnect and what was a RQ, this would be a bad idea.
Isn't the whole point of matchmaking matching you up with a player who won't "light your ass up"?
Rage quitting is an institutional issue deeply rooted in the flaws of current Match Making technology. Its not fun getting "your ass lit up".
Do not blame the players, blame the system.
Rage quitting is an institutional issue deeply rooted in the flaws of current Match Making technology. Its not fun getting "your ass lit up".
Do not blame the players, blame the system.
lol what? You don't know anything about fighting games.
edit: Or, I might add, anything about the nature of the ranking system in this game. Rage Quitting prevents you from losing ranking points which allows you to continue to match up against people you shouldn't be matched up against if you were just taking your losses the way you should be. The system isn't flawed from a matchmaking standpoint. It's flawed because they haven't implemented a punishment system yet, and I strongly suspect thats because their ability to discern between a rage quit and a server error is compromised.
brainzelda
Member
Just do what Dota does and if you rage quit you get a loss and you can't play for 30 minutes. Pretty big deterrent.
old manatee
Banned
While we're on the subject: yo GameStop where my tes+ fightstick you said you would mail it in 1 bidness day but it's been 3 an still no tracking#. Watch yr backs yo.
I don't know about rage quitters but I do know the game has a tendency to crash randomly and so a lot of the matches I 'left' werent at the end but in the middle of them. It's fucking frustrating and I'm more concerned with Capcom making the game more stable instead of rolling the dice as to whether or not it doesnt close on you while playing
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Are people torchin him for saying bruh? Is bruh out of fashion or is it toxic or what?
Actually curious.
Actually curious.
"Ass lit up"
"Hoes"
"Hella"
"Bruh"
"He tripping"
I feel so old.
As a 40yo this takes me back to high school. Only missing a "these muthafuckas right here though"
FadedRevolution
Member
Nothing wrong with bruh at all just a bunch of people just finding out black people use the Internet.
Well, the game is matching you with people based on the matches you win. Meaning if you're not losing, you're going to be put up against tougher and tougher opponents.
Take me for example, I played a bunch of the beta so I was able to run over some people when the game first launched. That then put me in a higher league where I was getting my ass whooped. Eventually I was put down into a league I'm more comfortable with.
If I had quit those matches, the loss wouldn't count at all, and any winning streak I had going would be intact. I'd still be in that league getting my ass handed to me all day.
I'll blame "the system" for a lot of things, but people are only fucking themselves over in this case.
User 73706
Banned
"Yo" "dawg", SFV is "off the chain" but the community is "real" "mad wizzack", "bruh".
sixteen-bit
Member
Casual for randoms and FT3s in Battle Lounge with my friends is the way to go.
Anyway, folks in the |OT| are saying repeat ragequit offenders are getting LP penalties now.
Oddly enough, the only person to quit on me so far was in a Casual match. Guess they just didn't like losing to FANG.
Reminds me of that Twitter stripper story thread (or it may have been a Freemufasa thread)
Loads of "what does tryna mean" posts.
All of the rage quits I've seen have been right before the victory screen...but, keep trying to justify it as anything but bad sportsmanship.
Also, the most baffling thing to me is that there's so little code/design reuse between the ranking systems of different Street Fighter games. This system keeps getting reinvented from scratch instead of refined overtime. People rage quitting or refusing matches where they stood to lose points has been an issue since SF3:3S got ported to Xbox...
cormack12
Gold Member
Am I reading this right? Bison disconnects first game, loses LP, registers loss and then spends next few fights regaining it?
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
Junior Member
It seems to be march now. Did the rest of the game come today with the rage quit penalties, or is it going to be doled out slowly? Because I want to download some Alex right about now.
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