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Raiden Revealed for Mortal Kombat X
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Patrick Seitz is back as Scorpion.
That Dude John
Member
I need a HQ trailer. The Livestream was decent, but I could tell it looks waaaaay better from the E3 footage.
Weird, I don't see anyone having a problem with Snake breaking necks in Smash, Chris breaking necks in Marvel, Deadpool shooting people point blank in the head in Marvel, Zangief doing 20 foot spinning piledrivers in Street Fighter, Viper/Cammy driving opponents down with neck chops in Marvel/SF, the various stabbings in Soul Calibur...you get the point.
No, I was thinking that too.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
me too
Jawmuncher
Member
Funny that every example you listed is 1) no where near as explicit or definitive and/or 2) taking place in a far less serious tone.
You get the point.
There is a difference between hedonistic violence porn and stupidity.
Fighting game gonna obviously fighting game but none of those are a fraction as graphic in showing the damage done as in here? It's a neat visual flair but i think it's better suited to just fatalities.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
What is it about these devs that they feel the need to inject almost every single fatality with a little bit of silly bullshit humor. That head shock/explode could have been fucking brutal until they went Warner Brothers with the fucking eyeballs and stuff.
NBD i guess but it just bugs the shit out of me. I dig the new Mayan guy tho...
NBD i guess but it just bugs the shit out of me. I dig the new Mayan guy tho...
No it's not explicit, but it would absolutely kill. Why is it unacceptable to see the damage these moves would cause and it makes people go "how can they still fight after that!" but if it's not explicitly shown then it's not given a second thought?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKquD640MFc
If this got the MK X-Ray treatment it's ridiculous but because it wasn't shown in that light it's fine and acceptable?
As I said, if it's not shown in such a light that makes it acceptable? So if these were supers and they didn't show the bones breaking and such it'd be fine and believable/acceptable?
Yes, when you do not exactly show vital human bones/organs performing complete break, implosions, it does not push suspension of disbelief as far, and the overall tone of how something is presented directly affect how we perceive it, who would have thought.
It is the same reason why no one expects the Roadrunner to actually kill Willy Kioty.
It is the same reason why no one expects the Roadrunner to actually kill Willy Kioty.
That's just weird to me: people are willing to believe a guy can walk away after getting stabbed through the feet and shot in the head as long as it doesn't show what getting stabbed through the feet and shot in the head does to their body?
I just don't see why people should have a problem with X-rays when other games are just as brutal, moveset wise, but just don't show the necks snapping. I mean, who could survive this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgkaRhvIn68
The footage you showed, within the span of 5 seconds, literally shows a the character who impales said feet doing a silly prance, viewtiful joe warping in, and a bright and colorful fair in the background and ~fun~ music and colorful friendly cartoon like overall presentation. All these things tip you off that it is not meant to be taken as literally as something grim dark like Mortal Kombat.
In the same way a broken neck kills the Joker in That Dark Knight Returns, you never expect Willy Kioty to be killed by the Road Runner.
This is like, tonal presentation 101.
In the same way a broken neck kills the Joker in That Dark Knight Returns, you never expect Willy Kioty to be killed by the Road Runner.
This is like, tonal presentation 101.
I never said it was unacceptable just that ideally it would be kept for fatalities. Generally combos and regular moves are throwaway in player reaction i don't think it's as ridiculous as your trying to make it seem that this would change when you show in vivid detail how moves effect your character.
The fact that they are so explicit and brutal, with no real visual or gameplay consequences (generic damage to the model aside) just completely kills the impact that they are suppose to have. They would be 10 times more cringe inducing if they did not go so over the top but just looked brutal/painful and had some animation adjustments after the fact.
BronsonLee
Member
Goddamnit he's going to ruin everything again!
I HELPED!*
*Everyone died and the result was the exact same but I HELPED
I HELPED!*
*Everyone died and the result was the exact same but I HELPED
Rizsparky
Member
Yup, looks so much smoother. Cant wait to give it a go.
Why would you take seriously the immortal Thunder God Raiden fighting the Sun God Kotal Kahn? So he does a silly prance, so what? There are crazy characters that are flamboyant and killers, like Deadpool.
So if that grab was Deadpool's level 3 and he stabbed their foot and broke the fourth wall saying "watch how brutal this is" and got the X-Ray treatment it'd be fine? Throw ratings out the window for this hypothetical, it would be fine, in that instance, because the game is so colorful?
Gotcha. I still say that with how brutal these moves are, and this is for all fighting games, I don't know why people would take such umbridge when it shows just how brutal they are but it's just "cool" or whatever when it's not shown.
Seriously.Oh god my ears
Are you being deliberately intellectually dishonest?
Freaky Fred
Banned
lol
Not at all, I'm being legitimately befuddled by people's willingness to accept one thing over the other based purely on the way a move is presented.
"Why is A acceptable but B isn't?"
"Because of the tone and the way it's presented"
"But it's still really brutal and would kill"
"But the way it's presented makes you not take the things on screen seriously so you don't think they're gonna be killed/hurt by these things"
I don't understand the line of thinking. Maybe I'm misinterpreting your point but this is what I gather from it and it baffles me.
For me it's a difference between not thinking about the result of a move on a character and being forced to. That's about as simple as i can put it.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
He really didn't appreciate Kotal's thrash talk.
lol
CuthbertAllgoodz
Member
Nope I also thought that at first LOL
a secret-boss
Banned
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POST: I thought its Metal Gear Raiden. derp
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POST: I thought its Metal Gear Raiden. derp
Schnozberry
Member
I agree. It breaks immersion. You're asked to suspend disbelief for a lot of insanity already in MK games, but for whatever reason the X-Ray attacks suck me out.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Can't lie. Wasn't hyped about Raiden and still am not. It's the shitty costumes plus the weird hat in every game I think...Maybe not the hat...The 3 Storms from Big Trouble are super badass. This guy isn't. Never was, never will.
But that fatality is freaking hardcore. Loving it.
But that fatality is freaking hardcore. Loving it.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
So those were his 3 fighting styles, correct? He looks so badass. Kinda like his MK2 form.
P.S. That fatality is a great homage to the original.
P.S. That fatality is a great homage to the original.
X-rays are silly, they were silly in MK9, and they are silly here.
They ignore consistent logic to have a cool visual flair.
They are the perfect way to have supers in a MK game, but I can easily see why they can bug people so much.
Seems like NRS really likes them, and they are going to be a mainstay in the series from here on out, so ya.
They ignore consistent logic to have a cool visual flair.
They are the perfect way to have supers in a MK game, but I can easily see why they can bug people so much.
Seems like NRS really likes them, and they are going to be a mainstay in the series from here on out, so ya.
Mr.Marston
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Holy shittttt
Troubled Bat
Member
Honestly the thing that ruins it for me, that black part that he wears on his head. Plus his outfit, doesn't speak to me as, "This guy is a god, don't fuck with him."
Isleofsancroy
Banned
Have you played any 3D NO?
I can't believe no one else picked up on that.
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