DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why? Because your shitty ass Colonial Marines bait and switch, that's why, chump.
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Randy Pitchford Not Happy With Borderlands Review Bombing, Threatens Future Releases On Steam
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Why? Because your shitty ass Colonial Marines bait and switch, that's why, chump.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
bilderberg
Member
user reviews are indeed bullshit. Go read reviews for any newegg product and you'll see 1's and 2's because the dummy didn't know how to install something correctly. Who has ever actually read a steam user review?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
demigod
Member
You should reply to his twitter and agree with him and tell him to take his shitty game off.
I did for Friday the 13th. Was going to buy it until i read people review bombing it because of the bs excuse that they couldn’t add anything due to licensing.
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Steam reviews and metacritic user reviews should be banned.
Hinedorf
Banned
The thing is, I know these games Borderlands in particular are very popular. I don't like nor have an interest in any single one.
If Randy wants to take his shit elsewhere I wont be shedding a tear. Although all of his customers on Steam might be a little irritated. You know Steam? That platform where Randy makes a great deal of money from PC's.
If Randy wants to take his shit elsewhere I wont be shedding a tear. Although all of his customers on Steam might be a little irritated. You know Steam? That platform where Randy makes a great deal of money from PC's.
epicnemesis
Member
No one makes purchasing decisions off of steam reviews anyway, so why do people care so much?
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Randy Bitchford.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
I don't know how I feel about this. User reviews have become strange and political now. It's hard to tell what is an honest opinion and what isn't designed to fuel an agenda. Just look at the reviews for "Captain Marvel" or Yelp reviews for that one restaurant that denied Sarah Sanders service after she said any restaurant should be allowed to deny service gays and lesbians. Same applies to games. Some even get negative reviews before they're even released. The whole system is broken.
ClanOfNone
Member
I peruse Steam reviews for games I am interested in all the time. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a troll review and one that gives a genuine critique. Most Steam reviews are quick hot takes or crappy humor attempts, but there are diamonds in the rough.
Kittehkraken
Member
User reviews, especially for hardware, are hugely important. I've never had a problem with any of my hardware because i read the user reviews.
Lets see...
Buy the Motherboard with a 4/5 score and the vast majority of everyone loving it. A few isolated problems.
OR
Buy the Motherboard with a 2/5 score and the vast majority of everyone having some kind of issue, if not the same one.
If you can't quickly sift through user reviews and learn something that's a you problem.
I have. If i read that a game is broken because of a recent patch or its a shitty port, why would i purchase it?
Tesseract
Banned
the problem is with steam's refund policy, it allows people to bomb products in a way that otherwise wouldn't be practical
they are fixing it soon tho, so it's w/e
bilderberg
Member
Right, and the product that has a low review count gets fucked because a few people gave it a 1 because shipping was a day late. Makes total sense.
Kittehkraken
Member
So because a few people suck we get rid of a valuable service? Just because something has a 3/5 score doesn't mean its not a 5/5 product. That's why you READ the reviews. My motherboard for example had a number of low scores because the M.2 Slot is hit or miss with what it accepts. But the board itself is rock solid. How do i know that? Because i READ the reviews.
BigBooper
Member
Ok. I was on board with some of his rant, but this straight hilarity. He can't even ensure quality when he's responsible for one product every once in a while. What kind of relationship is he trying to develop with his customers? Certainly not a trusted quality one.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Didn't B1 get a free PC update?
I read them all the time. There are plenty of detailed positive and negative reviews that will tell you everything you need to know.
There is a system in place to pretty much ignore review bombing. This guy should really stop talking.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Can that grocery store analogy get any more terrible? lol
I'd give him more benefit of the doubt if there wasn't so much shady shit going down in his history.
I'd give him more benefit of the doubt if there wasn't so much shady shit going down in his history.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
The attention should be welcomed, good or bad. Some games don’t even get THAT. Spoiled brats man.
Fox Mulder
Member
He's annoying as fuck and I don't bother with Gearbox games anymore, but he's right. User reviews are often used beyond their intention and review bombing shouldn't be a thing. You shouldn't be able to review something that isn't even out or you haven't even bought.
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Stuart360
Member
Apart from with Early Access games, i dont think many people actually use Steam reviews to judge on whether to buy a game or not, but review bombing is one of the few ways people feel they can get their voice heard, and their feelings seen by whom it concerns.
You dont have to agree woth it, but there arent many ways people can voice their concerns and actually be seen in this industry.
You dont have to agree woth it, but there arent many ways people can voice their concerns and actually be seen in this industry.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Randy Pitchford? The guy who scammed gamers and Sega with Aliens Colonial Marines? He should be the last one to talk about ethics.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ran...rome..69i57.6597j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.google.com/search?q=ran...rome..69i57.6597j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Stuart360
Member
Codes 208
Member
Yes but this is (presumably) just out of spite because of BL3 being on Epic
Ban Puncher
Member
Randy Pitchford loves to talk mad shit about Valve any chance he gets (due to some perceived personal slight he feels from the days of developing Half Life 1 expansions) but he loves money even more so that is why he doesn't have the stones to take his bat and ball and USB drive full of barely legal squirt porn and go home and actually remove Gearbox software from Steam.
bilderberg
Member
That's the argument I was making. Just get rid of the score and have only text.
Sakura
Member
I agree that Steam's curation is kind of garbage but the other stuff he is saying is just stupid.
With a game I have never played before, that I am purchasing to entertain myself, reviews are important. I don't know what the game is going to be like before I buy it. Without reviews all you can do is watch trailers, read the summary page, and hope it is as good as you think it is going to be.
Like this. I go out to buy milk because I need milk. It's not entertainment. It's not a luxury item. You also don't go and buy a different brand of milk and bread every time you go into the store.
With a game I have never played before, that I am purchasing to entertain myself, reviews are important. I don't know what the game is going to be like before I buy it. Without reviews all you can do is watch trailers, read the summary page, and hope it is as good as you think it is going to be.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
GFYS Pitchfork, I don't even need your shit for free.
TheMay30thMan
Member
Oh please, if we get rid of user reviews we’ll just be silencing gamers even further. It can be argued that review bombing is already a side effect from taking away gamer’s voices. Besides, this is Randy Pitchford we’re talking about here. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “executives” that made the decision to make it a Epic Store exclusive were actually just him and he’s taking this as an opportunity to back up his idea.
Kagey K
Banned
So how do you fix it? It happens all sites. An exclusive comes out and it gets 10/10 or 0/10 all the time.
If there’s a small controversy it gets hit with a bunch of low rated scores.
How would you make gamers voices be better heard, without all the bullshit that comes with it?
Or are you trying to say it’s fine, as is?
All the time I see people saying gamers are the problem, or reviews are the problem, or curation is the problem.
We obviously know what the problems are, but what are the solutions?
Why is everyone so quick to criticize, without being able to offer a solution to it?
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GnomeChimpsky
Member
Didn’t Randy claim to have come up with the name ‘Valve’ while playing poker with Gaben? And then Gaben came out saying it was all bullshit? That was fun.
Kagey K
Banned
Anyone offer any proof?
Are there receipts?
Or are you believing who you want to?
LegendOfKage
Member
Randy admitted it. To repost what I wrote about the situation earlier this year:
Or the time he told an interviewer that Gabe Newell wanted to name his company Gearbox, but lost that choice to Pitchford in a poker game, so he instead had to "settle" for Valve.
"After about four or five hours of play, that opportunity came and the showdown finally happened. The funny thing is that the hand that decided it wasn't that significant of a hand as far as Hold 'em Poker goes. It wasn't one of those Royal-Flush-Over-Quad-Aces kinds of hands that you see in the movies. I still remember the hand, though I'm sure Gabe wouldn't remember. The hand was top pair over middle pair. I was playing AK suited and he was playing K9 off suit (a hand known as "Saw Mill"). Obviously I tried to build a bit a of a pot pre-flop and got a lot of callers before it was Gabe's turn to act and astonishingly he came over the top with a massive over-bet. His action isolated us down to just the two of us in the hand, which gave me a HUGE advantage in this situation (I mentioned that Gabe hadn't played a lot of poker, right?). Anyway, the board came K-8-2 mixed suits and we were both pot committed so, of course, the money went in.
The next two cards were blanks, which is what the expected results were when I got the money in. I had him covered, so that knocked him out of the game! I did it! By knocking him out, I won a lot of chips, but more importantly I won the wager and with it I won the name 'Gearbox.' We got to keep the whole, big awesome Gearbox and Gabe had to settle for just being the Valve.
ALL of this was a lie, btw. Or admitted after the fact to be a "tall tale" as Pitchford put it, once Gabe clarified none of that was remotely true.
http://archive.fo/Z0MoO
Hey, even better, there's an archive link to the full original Joystiq article: https://archive.fo/YYh58
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Kagey K
Banned
Tall tale is different from a lie, but I wasn’t sitting there with them, so now we can only take their own recollections as facts.
I personally think there was a bit of truth in there, but who knows anymore?
LegendOfKage
Member
If I'm in a interview with someone, and I tell a story, and I leave that interview with everyone believing that story, and that story gets published, and someone who I made up the story about says "that isn't true," me saying the words "tall tale" after being found out still doesn't make that even remotely acceptable.
Read the joystiq article.
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TheMay30thMan
Member
I imagine listening to the feedback from the first time the epic store got exclusive rights to a game would be a good start to making gamers voices be better heard. Sure it was mostly outrage, but shouldn’t outrage still be acknowledged? I'm interested in what you mean by “the bullshit that comes with” gamers voices being heard, because it sounds like you’re already biased against the opinions of them.
And yes, personality, I’m fine with user reviews as is because I can tell the difference between an angry review bomber and an actual formulated opinion. I guess I’m quick to criticize because it’s not that hard to sift through the garbage.
RokkanStoned
Member
What happened with that crazy usb pedo thing lawsuit with Randy? Can't remember hearing how that went.
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Deleted member 738976
Unconfirmed Member
Randy please
Perhaps don't piss off the Steam users who would have bought your game if you had just released it there also.
Perhaps don't piss off the Steam users who would have bought your game if you had just released it there also.
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