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Rank The Top 3-5 Musou/Warriors Games

InfiniteCombo said:
There ARE other Musou games out there, why don't you play those? Because they don't have Nintendo characters?

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No if they had metal gear solid, Final Fantasy ,Kingdom hearts some sony/microsoft and other japanese devs ip's etc would be cool. It were just a few examples. I do want to try Dragon Quest Heroes some day.

I should probably have included these with that post tho:p
 
Samurai Warriors 4:

Only got this one recently along with Samurai Warriors 4 Empires, but I gotta say its one of the better ones. It has the switching mechanic from the Chronicles games (i.e switching moves you to where the other character is, instead of 3 units working as one like in Orochi games) and some of the later maps on higher difficulties makes it so you have to balance your positioning right to be able to clear all objectives. In addition the battles are high-paced thanks to the addition of Hyper attacks and the improvement to the Spirit evades.

The way they handled the story was good too, after many musous games I was tired of the "same overall story but what actually happens differs depending on who you control" thing that these games have. This has _Something_ like that, but its better, its basically a big unified story where you do get to see everyone's perspective as you play the various chapters, but aside from very minor differences depending on who you are playing against/with there's no what-ifs which makes so you actually feel compelled to play every story mode so you can get the "whole" picture.

Hyrule Warriors:

The main story mode is alright, but where this game really shines is in its Adventure mode and the original moveset a lot of the characters got. Adventure mode on the original was really though, and the subsequent maps were even harder, balancing all objectives, health bar, and time left to get a gold ranking to unlock more weapons and maps almost made it feel like I was playing a Platinum game at times.

Warriors Orochi 3:

This one has a lot of content, a looot. There's an absurd amount of playable characters, stages, and out of all the Orochi warriors games I think its probably the best too.

Samurai Warriors 2:

Mostly I think this one was just solid all around, good balance of difficulty, and some of the stories weren't half bad, like Magoichi's.

Can't decide a last, haven't really played the Dynasty ones for a long time, and I'd like to try out the One piece ones, but I'd probably give it to the either Warriors Orochi 1 or one of the Strategy-focused Empire-games.
 
1. Dynasty Warriors8 + XL
2. Dynasty Warriors 5 = Samurai Warriors 4
3. Warriors Orochi 3

Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn is their best fanservice game
Hyrule Warriors is poop
 
I'll never get the love for SamWar 4. It's my favorite Warriors franchise and I just don't get it. I thought the stories were poorly done, extremely short, hyper attacks broke the game balance that Samurai Warriors was known for. It made Samurai Warriors into Dynasty Warriors. The slower, more difficult series got turned into something for Dynasty Warriors fans. Don't like it.

I guess I'll just have to accept that I'm wrong because everyone else is smitten over it.
 
I don't play too many anymore but One Piece was legitimately a good ass game. It's my favorite of the Musou games I've recently played. Even with the bad art and weird characters with lame specialties, they were able to craft a stellar game and draw me into the story. Made me almost want to try the manga again. Almost. It made me pine for a Jump Musou

Dynasty Warriors Gundam PS4 I remember not enjoying the story or much of the presentation but I thought the actual gameplay was solid as a rock and very fun.

Hyrule Warriors I probably spent the most time with as I played it through on Wii U and 3DS.
I'm monitoring this thread for recs. Maybe I'll get DW8+XL and SW4. I've yet to try out AoT also.
 
I've barely played any of the main series but Hyrule Warriors clicked for me in a way the others hadn't. I was psyched for Dragon Quest Heroes, but I couldn't get into it! I've bought it twice though.

1. Hyrule Warriors
2. Bleach: Soul Resurrección
3. Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom

I played some of the One Piece ones and they didn't do much for me; they seemed to focus just on the action, instead of the strategy layer, which leaves me kind of uninterested. By that metric, I guess I only like the Bleach one because of the license :shrug:
 
SW4, I loved my time with it. First musou I played in years so I can't really rank any others.

Sengoku Basara looks even better, but I've never played it. Waiting for 4, or the next one to get localized.
 
Oh wait, we can put games other than Warriors games but with a similar formula?
Then yes, Sengoku Basara is way better than Samurai Warriors.
 
1. One Piece Warriors 3
2. Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes
3. Warriors Orochi 3 (Sun Wukong is so fuckn good)
4. Samurai Warriors 4
5. Hyrule Warriors
 
Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage, fight me.
Hyrule Warriors, because I have a Wii U.
Samurai Warriors 4, because Classic Game Room likes it.
Ninety-Nine Nights 2, because I almost bought it. Dragon's Dogma came out instead.
And... The first musou game?
 
1.pirate warriors 3
2.gundam reborn
3. Dynasty warriors 8

Looking forward for samurai warriors 4 though.
 
I liked Dynasty Warriors Stike force the most, mainly because it is not like the rest.

I enjoyed the demo of SB4 too, the Dynasty Warriors games are alright, but quite similar too one another, and I do not enjoy them all that much. Hyrule Warriors and Dragon Quest Heroes are both horribly bland, and I found them really horrible to play.
 
From what I played:

1. Drakengard
2. Drakengard 2

Never really played other Musou games to be honest, but I intend to repair this error soon. Always heard good things about Samurai Warriors 4 so that would be my choice to start
 
I Haven't played tons of musou, but the two I've spent the most time on are.

One piece pirate warriors 3

Sengoku Basara 3/ utage

Those are my two favorite ones.
 
Warriors Orochi 3
Dragon Quest Heroes
Hyrule Warriors
One Piece Pirate Warriors 3
Dynasty Warriors 8

Though really, a lot of it is based on how much you like the licensed properties.
 
1. Dynasty warriors 4 - it's when the series got more complex.
2. Warriors orochi 2- kiyomori taria is a Fuckin boss. The one person who goes harder than lubu in these games.
3. Samurai warriors 1-only because of madamune date's superior double wooden sword weapons. Wtf did they change it?
 
1. Bladestorm: Nightmare (Does this count?)
2. Dynasty Warriors 4
3. I don't think I've even played any other Musou games, as much as I like them on a conceptual level.
 
1) Samurai Warriors 2+XL - One of my favorite games of all time. I played the 360 version which looked and performed a lot better than the PS2 counterpart. Fantastic stories, overall decent voice acting (Motochika's voice was the GOAT) It even had an online mode. It wasn't the best, but was pretty cool. I was top 5 in the entire World on it, and the only American that high. I'd always get Messages on Live of people challenging me. :)

the 30 dollar 2XL expansion for 360 brought even better graphics, added an additional charge move for EVERY character (Damn I miss Mitsuhide and Musashi's extra move..) new modes (Mercenary mode was the shit!) and fantastic new characters.

2) Samurai Warriors 2 Empires - More awesome, and you could give create a characters movesets like Musashis! Woop Woop.

3) Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate - All the DW and SW characters with some great new ones plus guest characters. Really cool story line, made even better with the Ultimate edition

4) Dragon Quest Heroes - SO much fun! Loved this and I'd never really even cared about the DQ series before. Biggest lost opportunity was lack of local and online co-op. Which is why I can't wait for DQHII!

5) Hyrule Warriors - The first Zelda Musou game did not disappoint. :) So much awesome fan service.

Honorable mentions to all the SW4 games for PS4.
 
I played em all and I mean ALL. Even the off brand knock offs. Even the licenses that I dont care about which surprised me in their quality. Here's my thoughts.

  1. WARRIORS OROCHI 3 ULTIMATE-By rights it just can't be dethroned. It has the best weapon fusion method allowing for fast customization of weapons with TONS of slots to level up various features per weapon. It lets you play 3 characters at a time in the main mode and its experience system lets you rack up tons of XP to dump onto new character to level them up as soon as you get them so that they are instantly usable. Whether you are using triple attacks to convert kills to XP, finding xp rush scrolls or just abusing the huge XP earns in gauntlet mode folks are always able to level. In fact you can lvl 100 so easy that you can now promote them to start over at lvl 1 with stronger base stats and more slots for abilities and gear. I've promoted some half a dozen times making them godlike at high levels! Its roster is enormous...over 100. It has had so many editions leading to this its main story is 3 games long. Hundreds of hours just on it alone.

    Thats not all though...it has the largest and best modes out of all the series. Gauntlet mode is so good it could and should become a new series unto itself. You have to find dragon gates, stand on them and activate them looking for an exit, but you may end up causing good or bad things to happen instead if the gate is the wrong one. Tons of enemies show up and the longer you take the harder they get till they can one shot you. 5 man teams and team formations mean you have special new abilities to activate like attacks, buffs or even teleports. Soooooo good of a mode. All that plus a really good fighting game mode with a UMVC3 style heroes and heralds card system of buffs you can loadout in each match to use as assists on the fly.
  2. HYRULE WARRIORS-This game...this fucking game. Instead of a jump you have a dash. This dash means you can dodge easily. Dodging easily means that enemies can be more aggressive and have larger size and attacks than in standard musou. This means the games combat is far faster and more intense than ever. Plus every character has unique character specific mechanics to them making it a dream to play the roster and learn the stages.

    The main draw is adventure mode maps. This mode has zelda maps. Each square on the map is a stage with unique conditions to it. Each square also has item rewards and beating it and meeting all the conditions yields more items as well as opens up areas of the map to play. Items are used to open up other map squares or rewards on squares you can play. This turns playing stages into a quest of treasure hunting. Sound tedious? Far from it. It mitigates this with all the crazy conditions. You may have some stages that are races to see whether you or an enemy can get to a kill count first, or you may have stages where all hits are one shot kills and you have to take out so many officers before you die. Other stages have riddles posed and you have to kill only the character attacking that fits the answer to the riddle or you lose whilst being attacked by multiple officers. The rules go on and on and the stages have crazy variances in difficulty. Each map has its own rules and stage types as well as items. Hundreds upon hundreds of hours on these modes.Also unlocking new weapons, movesets, characters, outfits and such is all mainly in this mode so there are some really great rewards for questing in adventure mode.

    Only bad part is that this game has a bad weapon fusion system. You cant really add empty slots to weapons in this game like other Musou titles. Plus some abilities are mysteries and you have to play that weapon till you reach a kill count with it to find out what it was before fusing it. It makes getting good weapon stats a pain.

    There is one other bad point. The economy for leveling in this game is rough. They kept raising level caps with each update, but didn't seem to nail down the rate at which each level's cost went up making it a slog to level. Plus you can't spend points to level someone beyond your max level character meaning someone is goin at it the longway no matter what. A glitch exists on many copies to exploit this system for massive gains but its still rough.
  3. ONE PIECE PIRATE WARRIORS 3- By rights this game is back and forth for number 2 constantly and its a tossup. It tends to only be edged out by the fact that Hyrule Warriors has an Adventure mode so huge and addictive that it just cant compete. So what does One Piece have thats so good?
    Everything Hyrule Warriors did with combat it learned from One Piece because it did it all first. Big enemies, crazier enemy types, multiple enemy movesets, bizarre missions in battles, an insane amount of character specific mechanics creating loud and unique movesets that are addictive...its all there. Plus it has a MUCH larger roster to play as and a longer story mode. Additionally its weapon system is great and its bingo board system of collecting things in stages to make a bingo and unlock perks and abilities is super great and easy to get into. Its not as hour filled a chase as adventure mode item quests but bingo questing is still addictive.

    I honestly can't stand One Piece but this game is sooooooooo fucking good. The movesets, the enemies, the stages, the systems. Its golden. Plus there are tons of character side story stages and different outfits CAN CHANGE YOUR MUSOU FINISHERS AND MOVES!

TLDR
Best package is Warriors orochi Ultimate3 because it has best amount of content and systems and for having the largest roster , 2nd is Hyrule and not One Piece but only because its insane amount of content and its combat being almost identical to One Piece edges out its two irritating flaws of level economy and weapon fusing. 3rd One piece is godlike. If it had more content it could skyrocket to number 1 because honestly its combat, movesets, roster size and systems are the best out of all of them. Own all 3.
 
Cindi Mayweather said:
I'll never get the love for SamWar 4. It's my favorite Warriors franchise and I just don't get it. I thought the stories were poorly done, extremely short, hyper attacks broke the game balance that Samurai Warriors was known for. It made Samurai Warriors into Dynasty Warriors. The slower, more difficult series got turned into something for Dynasty Warriors fans. Don't like it.

I guess I'll just have to accept that I'm wrong because everyone else is smitten over it.
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Yep totally agree. I never liked the new Triangle dash move from 4. Too weird after not having it for the previous 3 games and Warriors Orochi.

The stories and everything were more amazing in the GOAT, SW2+XL :)
 
Achilles in WO3 made me bummed out they didn't make a Warriors of Troy that actually controlled like a musou
 
I've played a few, not enough to do a legit list, though. Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires forever remains my favorite Musou game.
 
I haven't played one of these games since the PS2 days. I want the best one on PS4.

What should I get? Why are there so many different Samurai Warriors 4 games?
 
1. Dynasty Warriors 5/Warriors Orochi 1/2

Slightly different forms of perfection on the classic DW formula. Jam packed with content.

2. Dynasty Warriors 8 (Xtreme Legends Complete Edition)

The closest the modern series has come to that perfection, marred only by some lousy mechanics (rock paper scissors) and a downgrade in writing [not saying that much, but still...] compared to 7.

3. Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate

All Most of the characters. Fixed some gameplay issues from DW7 too, like the lack of charge aerial attacks and lingering clone movesets (some characters even got moves back from DW5/Orochi 1 & 2, which made me very happy). Characters didn't mesh as well as the past two Orochi games though. The Samurai Warriors characters in particular (as well as some of the older Mystics) were largely too rooted in classic movesets to keep up with the 1 vs 1,000 emphasized movesets of the Dynasty Warrios characters and new Mystic/Guest characters.


I have a very limited take on the series though. I've been with it for a long time, but I haven't really touched any of the games that don't involve DW in some way.
 
evanmisha said:
The sheer amount of people in this thread that have clearly never played a Sengoku Basara game makes my heart ache.
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I have the one on PS3 (In English) and thought it sucked. It has none of what I like about Musou and I thought the combat was poor and limited in comparison. I remember you having really small move sets.
Lee Chaolan said:
Yep totally agree. I never liked the new Triangle dash move from 4. Too weird after not having it for the previous 3 games and Warriors Orochi.

The stories and everything were more amazing in the GOAT, SW2+XL :)
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I would do anything for SW2 XL and SW2E on steam. I'd probably never buy another musou because I'd be set. So that's probably why they haven't. And yeah the triangle move ruined SW. I'm convinced the game is loved mostly by people who don't like SW compared to other Musou games.
 
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Still the king.

2nd place is Sengoku Musou 4. Notice I said 4 and not 4-2 because 4-2's campaign sucks ass compared to 4.

3rd is a tie between DW8 and DW Gundam Reborn.
 
squall23 said:
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Still the king.

2nd place is Sengoku Musou 4. Notice I said 4 and not 4-2 because 4-2's campaign sucks ass compared to 4.
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These aren't coming West, right?

Are they pretty playable in Japanese if you don't know the language? Might be worth grabbing off of PSN if there is a sale...

Oh, I want to add that I just played the JP demo for Dragon Quest Heroes II and was not very impressed. Haven't played the first but I thought this was very dull, though that could have just been the demo. Lovely graphics but pretty boring, especially that boss fight at the end. What a grind, he had a ridiculous amount of health and he never changed his super-slow attack pattern.

I've never read the Berserk manga or seen the anime but I thought that game looked cool. Cutting mobs in half seems like a thing I've been wanting to do.

Are there any other upcoming Musous I should be look towards? How ae those strategy spin-offs?
 
HotHamBoy said:
These aren't coming West, right?

Are they pretty playable in Japanese if you don't know the language? Might be worth grabbing off of PSN if there is a sale...
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The only thing you need to know Japanese for are weapon perks, and there's already a fully translated guide for that.
 
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