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[Jacobi]

Yeah, I love spending money on SHIT.
The X360 is such a great machine. I had to repair it three times, but it was totally worth the money !

The Wii is such a great machine. The games look mostly on par or worse than a 50$ console, but there is so much more !


The PS3 is such a great machine. Some things Sony promised don't actually work, but I'm having a blast watching some Blu-Ray on 480p !

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Well it sold great for a $400 console, but the systems that sold the most were the cheapest ones (DS, PS2, gba).

Which raises a good point. If people can find a compelling gaming experience on a cheaper system, then why bitch about the higher priced competitors? If you don't need it or want it, then why bitch? I want a BMW sports sedan but I can't afford it. Should I bitch at BMW? I Think the OP is trying to point out that saying "I wish I could buy a PS3" is probably more constructive than saying "FU Sony!!! Blah Blah Blah!!". As some stated, speak with your wallet. If you don't want it, don't buy it. But why bitch about it?

 

[Jiggy]

How much will you save on a price drop, $50? It takes at least a year for a price drop in most cases. To miss out on gaming for months to save a few penny sounds rather dumb.

Therein's your critical flaw: presupposing that launch window lineups actually involve something people want. Far from being a guarantee, that's not necessarily even a likelihood.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

The bitching is pathetic IMO.

They aren't forcing you to get one. Kutaragi already told you to get a 2nd job if you want a PS3.



I would rather get a free movie than no free movie at all. Bond is a good choice.

Everyone needs to eat - but if food suddenly costs twice as much as it did a couple of years ago, would you be just as happy?

$10+ For movie tickets is cool with you?

What kind of car do you drive? Of course you can get an old shitty car, but why not just go the extra mile and buy a luxury car, too?

Gas prices too high? Yeah right, you gotta drive, you gotta heat your home, how is any price to much to pay for gas?



Anyways

The fact of the matter is that people only have so much money. To tell someone to save $700 for a system when there are other real life expenses out there is kind of naive. How many college students/part time workers can afford to save that kind of money - and also buy the other systems, accessories, and games as well?

If my current gaming set up was boring and severly lacking without the PS3, I still wouldn't buy one. Not now, not yet. $600 is just too much. A $50 or $100 price drop isn't going to change my mind.

Arguing that I'll be making a more expensive trade off in missing out on a year or two of fun is silly considering I already don't have enough time to play the games that I own now.
I'm not saying those who accept the price are wrong, but the people not willing to pay the price aren't exactly out of line, either.

 

[jjasper]

Which raises a good point. If people can find a compelling gaming experience on a cheaper system, then why bitch about the higher priced competitors? If you don't need it or want it, then why bitch? I want a BMW sports sedan but I can't afford it. Should I bitch at BMW? I Think the OP is trying to point out that saying "I wish I could buy a PS3" is probably more constructive than saying "FU Sony!!! Blah Blah Blah!!". As some stated, speak with your wallet. If you don't want it, don't buy it. But why bitch about it?

I completely agree.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Which raises a good point. If people can find a compelling gaming experience on a cheaper system, then why bitch about the higher priced competitors? If you don't need it or want it, then why bitch? I want a BMW sports sedan but I can't afford it. Should I bitch at BMW? I Think the OP is trying to point out that saying "I wish I could buy a PS3" is probably more constructive than saying "FU Sony!!! Blah Blah Blah!!". As some stated, speak with your wallet. If you don't want it, don't buy it. But why bitch about it?

Uh, perhaps because everyone has a right to their own opinion and they feel free to voice it?

Just a guess.

If people didn't make their opinion known, then things would change less to accommodate said complaints. Sony should listen well. I want a PS3, but not at that price - which is why I will wait. But because someone has some piss ant rant about it - doesn't mean I am going to keep silent about how I feel about the subject.

People can not like others voicing their opinions about console prices. They can voice it. We can voice ours.

This is why surveys are made so that companies can find out the reasons behind consumers decisions.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Which raises a good point. If people can find a compelling gaming experience on a cheaper system, then why bitch about the higher priced competitors? If you don't need it or want it, then why bitch? I want a BMW sports sedan but I can't afford it. Should I bitch at BMW? I Think the OP is trying to point out that saying "I wish I could buy a PS3" is probably more constructive than saying "FU Sony!!! Blah Blah Blah!!". As some stated, speak with your wallet. If you don't want it, don't buy it. But why bitch about it?

Why bitch? As a sony fan for the past decade, I find it frustrating that their system costs about the same as their two competitors' systems combined. No, they don't have a lineup that I want now, so not buying one doesn't upset me in the slightest.

The BMW analogy is flawed. BMWs are typically known as luxury, high priced vehicles. It's built that reputation and it's accepted that only wealthier people can afford one.

Sony's Playstation line has always been competitively priced. It's always been the console for casuals and hardcores. Squaring off against the N64, the lower priced software was a huge boost to the system and game sales. Offering lower prices on their first party software (usually $39.99) has also been one of their common practices.

I don't think it's a good position to be in for a console to be compared to a BMW. There are a lot more people buying Toyotas than BMWs.

But, if suddenly Toyota doubled the MSRP of their entire lineup of vehicles (such as the PS3 being double the price of the PS2's launch price), I'd expect a lot of people to be upset.

 

[antiloop]

Everyone needs to eat - but if food suddenly costs twice as much as it did a couple of years ago, would you be just as happy?

$10+ For movie tickets is cool with you?

I paid over $14 for my last movie ticket. (Casino Royale)

Of course I wouldn't want to pay double the amount for food or a buy an additional deluxe car.

But I wouldn't compare an entertainment machine to those things (oh well maybe the movie ticket) .. PS3 is just there to entertain. It's not about life or death.

Bitching will not solve anything, it's about supply and demand.

Edit: If the demand isn't there the price will go down.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Here is a hypothetical:

I want "it". "It" is something I have wanted since "it" was announced a couple of years ago. "It" has things I am interested in using and I would use "it" and enjoy "it" if only I could afford it. What will be the best, most constructive course of action to abtain "it":

A. Bitch about the price.
B. Bitch at my employer for not paying me enough.
C. Bitch at myself for not finding a better job.
D. Save up the money, buy "it" when I can afford it, and bitch about something else.

E. (This one's for you Cogent) All of the above. It is my right to bitch about everything because bitching is synonymous with having an opinion.

 

[Fredrik]

I usually don't bitch much about the price, but for me the PS3 is expensive since I already have a 360 and I basically only want the PS3 for the exclusive games. I don't care about the Blu-ray player or Linux or all that other crap, I basically just want the disc drive that reads PS3 discs. And $600 is a bit too much for that. So right now I'll rather spend my money on games for the 360 and Wii while waiting for the PS3 price to go down. And I'm okay with that.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

I paid over $14 for my last movie ticket. (Casino Royale)

Of course I wouldn't want to pay double the amount for food or a buy an additional deluxe car.

But I wouldn't compare an entertainment machine to those things.. PS3 is just there to entertain. It's not about life or death.

You'd be surprised :lol

I was just making a few comparisons. I mean, it could literally be for anything though. If Apple Computers were to suddenly double their prices on everything, people would be outraged. They can certainly opt to not buy the product, but that doesn't give them any less reason to be upset.

If BRD prices shoot up to $50 a movie
If Vista costs $599
If Wendy's charges $6.00 for a spicy chicken sandwich
If Coke costs 3 times as much as Pepsi
If your ISP jacks up the rates to twice what they were recently
If your favorite cologne went from $75 a bottle to $200 a bottle
If GAF decided to charge a $7.99 monthly fee

etc. etc.

None of those things are necessities. There are alternatives for each, too. But, when the consumer is groomed to have things priced a certain way only for that to change in an expensive way relatively abruptly (no successful console ever launched for more than $300, though the 360's $400 might be the first) you're damned right they'd be upset.

And people ranting about people ranting? Jesus, the cycle will never stop. Now I'm ranting about people ranting about people ranting. :lol

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Here is a hypothetical:

I want "it". "It" is something I have wanted since "it" was announced a couple of years ago. "It" has things I am interested in using and I would use "it" and enjoy "it" if only I could afford it. What will be the best, most constructive course of action to abtain "it":

A. Bitch about the price.
B. Bitch at my employer for not paying me enough.
C. Bitch at myself for not finding a better job.
D. Save up the money, buy "it" when I can afford it, and bitch about something else.

E. (This one's for you Cogent) All of the above. It is my right to bitch about everything because bitching is synonomous with having an opinion.

But who's constantly bitching about the price? For most, it was an initial bitch...then it became the reason why the system is selling poorly. I won't buy it at it's current price, but I'm not out constantly complaining or making threads about how sony f***** me and they need to lower their price.

So, really you can do your list in a sequence of events rather than a multiple choice question:

A. Want it, Wait for it, Expect a Great Price Cus Sony's shocked everyone in the past with their low prices
B. See price. Jaw Drop. Bitter tears. Anger ensues.
C. Buy alternative goods that offer comparable - better or worse, depending - entertainment.
D. Use money to buy games for those alternatives you own...while in the meantime, the PS3's price will be dropping and their lineup will be improving.
E. Once price reaches a level that satisfies the consumer and the library is a little more filled out, purchase it.

That's pretty much my order of operations on the subject. But, if my beliefs are questioned, I'll gladly contend that - yeah, the PS3 is a ripoff right now.

 

[koam]

Make this thread again when you have a family and a mortgage.

The PS3 is crazy expensive, it needs to drop TWICE before i can consider it.
The 360 needs to drop once by about 100 bucks.
I picked up the Wii cause it's a decent price and comes with a game.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Make this thread again when you have a family and a mortgage.

I have a family, a mortgage, a PS3, an X360, and a Wii. What is your point?

 

[JB1981]

I still don't see how 360 owners think $400 is manageable but $500 is OUT OF THE QUESTION. (see: Cogent).

 

[koam]

I have a family, a mortgage, a PS3, an X360, and a Wii. What is your point?

My point is that its way too ****ing expensive to spend ~$1250 JUST to have all 3 consoles and that doesn't even include any games (besides wii sports). Maybe you make a killer salary but for a lot of us, its a bit too much for 5 years of entertainment.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

My point is that its way too ****ing expensive to spend ~$1250 JUST to have all 3 consoles and that doesn't even include any games (besides wii sports). Maybe you make a killer salary but for a lot of us, its a bit too much for 5 years of entertainment.

Visit the Dell kiosk in your local mall lately? I see people with strollers in tow buying $1200 and $1500 computers to surf the net, play games, and look at photos from their digital camera. For $1050, you could have all three systems and do all the things I mentioned above. Weird.

 

[Flo_Evans]

not to mention you need extra controllers, HDMI cables, at least 2 games, extended warranty and all that crap. I am just glad I have all hardware purchases out of the way so I can focus on the games!

How many games a month do you buy? I usually get 2-3 a month so over 5 years thats a conservative $6000.... the PS3 is only 10% of that.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Here is a hypothetical:

I want "it". "It" is something I have wanted since "it" was announced a couple of years ago. "It" has things I am interested in using and I would use "it" and enjoy "it" if only I could afford it. What will be the best, most constructive course of action to abtain "it":

A. Bitch about the price.
B. Bitch at my employer for not paying me enough.
C. Bitch at myself for not finding a better job.
D. Save up the money, buy "it" when I can afford it, and bitch about something else.

E. (This one's for you Cogent) All of the above. It is my right to bitch about everything because bitching is synonomous with having an opinion.

Uh, I don't bitch about how I am paid. I also don't bitch about my job because I make good money. I'm not going to save up 600 bucks, that's laughable. I will buy it when it is more reasonably priced. Sony has priced themselves out of the competition. It's as simple as that.

PS3 isn't a BMW. It's a freakin console. Remember the 3DO? It tanked because they priced themselves out of competition. Who knows how things will play out for Sony though.

This is kinda funny coming from you because I am confident you were one of the people saying the PS3 was just too expensive back in the day. Now that you own one it appears that your tune has changed.

Incessant complaining is annoying, but I find no problem with people voicing their opinion from time to time regarding what they think is "too" expensive".

 

[Fragamemnon]

Even if I did play consoles (and I don't, I generally don't enjoy that style of gaming anymore), I can see how someone, even someone who loves games, would balk at prices like $400 or $600 before tax, cabling, and other accessories. It's not just about money, it's also about time and how much you have to play games. Some weeks I'll have maybe one or two free nights to play games. Others I'll have much more. Sometimes I'll have none.

Given those kind of time constraints, one platform gaming suits me fine. I have plenty of good gaming I can do on it, and I never sit down and think "I don't have anything I want to play"-there's always tons of appealing stuff to play. Why do I need another system when the current one suits me fine?

It's a sort of question that many of the huge-backlog multiplatform gamers here should ask themselves and think about. You might be plesantly suprised that if you have other things in your life to do besides playing video games, having all the toys is far from necessary, much less having to get them right off the bat because they are the new toy on the block.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

I have a family, a mortgage, a PS3, an X360, and a Wii. What is your point?

And evidently, not everyone has the amount of disposable income to just spend on frivolous things, like you do.

Honestly, i see threads like this as some type of pseudo-bragging. That is, unless you are so far out of touch with society that you can't see why people would bitch about a price(which wasn't announced until last year's E3) of a game console, which is usually competitively priced(like mentioned in this thread), and approaching the territory of PC's in price (and they do a ton more). If so,then you need a reality check.

It's easy as hell to just say, get a better job. The thing is, doing that is a lot harder. Some better jobs might require more experience in the educational system than others, and education is NOT cheap. Sometimes, people end up in debt because of it. And yea, there is something about priorities in this, but that is besides the point. This is about the whole retarded notion of just getting a better job to buy something expensive like a PS3.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Uh, I don't bitch about how I am paid. I also don't bitch about my job because I make good money. I'm not going to save up 600 bucks, that's laughable. I will buy it when it is more reasonably priced. Sony has priced themselves out of the competition. It's as simple as that.

PS3 isn't a BMW. It's a freakin console. Remember the 3DO? It tanked because they priced themselves out of competition. Who knows how things will play out for Sony though.

This is kinda funny coming from you because I am confident you were one of the people saying the PS3 was just too expensive back in the day. Now that you own one it appears that your tune has changed.

Incessant complaining is annoying, but I find no problem with people voicing their opinion from time to time regarding what they think is "too" expensive".

Exactly. I make 58k+ a year...it's not a TON of money, but it affords me to spend money on some of my hobbies - including gaming.

It's just that...$600 is $200 too much for me to even consider right now.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

And evidently, not everyone has the amount of disposable income to just spend on frivolous things, like you do.

Honestly, i see threads like this as some type of pseudo-bragging. That is, unless you are so far out of touch with society that you can't see why people would bitch about a price(which wasn't announced until last year's E3) of a game console, which is usually competitively priced(like mentioned in this thread), and approaching the territory of PC's in price (and they do a ton more). If so,then you need a reality check.

It's easy as hell to just say, get a better job. The thing is, doing that is a lot harder. Some better jobs might require more experience in the educational system than others, and education is NOT cheap. Sometimes, people end up in debt because of it. And yea, there is something about priorities in this, but that is besides the point. This is about the whole retarded notion of just getting a better job to buy something expensive like a PS3.

I saved. I sacrificed. And according to my recent tax documents, I am firmly in the middle of the middle class. Go figure. You may think that I am bragging, but I am just clarifying that I chose not to do other things with my money that helped me buy the consoles. As far as telling someone to get a better job, or to get a better education, I find that kind of response to be out of touch as well.

 

[DjangoReinhardt]

Someone please post a history of inflation-adjusted console prices, stat.

My guess is that the PS2/Xbox/Cube era is the outlier in terms of consumer costs of console gaming over the last 30 years, not the current gen. I'd be surprised if any gen was cheaper than the last, actually.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Someone please post a history of inflation-adjusted console prices, stat.

My guess is that the PS2/Xbox/Cube era is the outlier in terms of consumer costs of console gaming over the last 30 years, not the current gen. I'd be surprised if any gen was cheaper than the last, actually.

The thing is...technology doesn't generally follow the same path as inflation.

That's why I can buy a pretty top of the line computer now for cheaper than a top of the line computer from 15 years ago.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Someone please post a history of inflation-adjusted console prices, stat.

My guess is that the PS2/Xbox/Cube era is the outlier in terms of consumer costs of console gaming over the last 30 years, not the current gen. I'd be surprised if any gen was cheaper than the last, actually.

Posting a history of inflation-adjusted console prices is idiotic. Prices fall over time, technology improves. That's not how technology works for the most part. If it did, everything would be out of everyones price range. This argument doesn't hold water in the slightest.

 

[Ranger X]

Someone please post a history of inflation-adjusted console prices, stat.

My guess is that the PS2/Xbox/Cube era is the outlier in terms of consumer costs of console gaming over the last 30 years, not the current gen. I'd be surprised if any gen was cheaper than the last, actually.

The silly comment i was waiting for. Haven't you heard inflation is just a fad?
Such thing does not exist, only business men projecting their stupid increase in profit for the next 50 years do.
Guess what, if people bitch about the price and buy less stuff -- prices will down and the "premier industries" (i don't have the english term for that sorry) will also have to ajust.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Guess what? It's possible to afford an item, AND still think it's priced too high.

I make a nice living, and can't complain about my salary too much. (I dropped $4500 to go on vacation in April) and I still think that the PS3 is too expesnive. But it's all a matter of priority and perspective I suppose.

 

[seat]

As stated before, it's not just about whether or not people can afford the PS3 (though it is for many), but it's also about justifying the cost for those that can afford it. As a gamer, I don't care about Blu-Ray discs and multi-media functions. I just want to play great games. $600 is too much for a machine that I'll only use to play videogames, period.

Look, I replaced my launch PS2 in April 2005 when the PS2 slim hit. Not because it was dying but because I wanted a new one. It gave me nearly 5 years of fun.

This deserves an explanation. Why the hell did you do this? If there was nothing wrong with your PS2, why did you buy a PStwo? The PStwo doesn't offer anything beneficial over the PS2 other than size. This either proves that: A) You're a hardcore Sony fanboy that doesn't need a legitimate reason. Which is fine, really. B) You really do have a shitload of extra money to spend and buy stuff for no real reason. Or C) You are really, really bad at making purchasing decisions, in which case you have completely discredited your argument regarding PS3 pricing.

Give me another reason, if you want. I'm very curious to hear your answer.

 

[theBishop]

Posting a history of inflation-adjusted console prices is idiotic. Prices fall over time, technology improves. That's not how technology works for the most part. If it did, everything would be out of everyones price range. This argument doesn't hold water in the slightest.

Uh. PS3 isn't built with PS2's technology (ok, ignoring the BC hardware). You wouldn't compare a Pentium3 in 1999. to a Core2 Duo in 2007. And PS3 is more ahead of its time in 2006/2007 than PS2 was in 1999/2007.

Inflation-adjusted prices is much more applicable than your depreciating technology argument.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Guess what? It's possible to afford an item, AND still think it's priced too high.

I make a nice living, and can't complain about my salary too much. (I dropped $4500 to go on vacation in April) and I still think that the PS3 is too expesnive. But it's all a matter of priority and perspective I suppose.

And what if someone said spending that much money on a vacation was crazy? Would you be insulted? What if they repeatedly said it to you? Every one complains about price at some point when it comes to console launches for a multitude of reasons. Constantly complaining about the price, which some continue to do, isn't going to make the price come down. Not buying the PS3, if it is too expensive for some, is going to bring the price down faster than constantly bitching about it. As I recall, someone said to me recently in our little group on gmail, they resented my buying a PS3 because, in their words, I was condoning Sony's charging too much on a console. To me, that was insulting.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

To buy all consoles at US launch last time would cost $800. This time it's $1150-1350 depending on core/premium.

how do you quantify that?

Is $700 way too much for 7-10 years of gaming?

Is $700 way too much for the hardware inside?

?

Opportunity cost. $600 could go to
*A $600 console
*A $300 console plus 5 games
*A $250 console, a $130 portable, plus 2-3 games for each
*No new console; 20 games for currently-owned platforms

Hell, I remember paying $300 for my Super NES, and that was back in the mid-90's where the graphics were 2D.

Errr, it was $200US at launch, let alone mid-90s.

My guess is that the PS2/Xbox/Cube era is the outlier in terms of consumer costs of console gaming over the last 30 years, not the current gen. I'd be surprised if any gen was cheaper than the last, actually.

I don't have anything like that at hand, but I'm positive you're wrong about last generation being cheapest. A launch PS2 might be slightly cheaper than a launch PS1 at the same non-adjusted price, but when PS2 dragged its price drops out so much longer, it more than made up for the difference. A $600 console now would be like a $400 launch SNES.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

And what if someone said spending that much money on a vacation was crazy? Would you be insulted? What if they repeatedly said it to you? Every one complains about price at some point when it comes to console launches for a multitude of reasons. Constantly complaining about the price, which some continue to do, isn't going to make the price come down. Not buying the PS3, if it is too expensive for some, is going to bring the price down faster than constantly bitching about it. As I think someone said to me recently in our little group on gmail, they resented my buying a PS3 because, in their words, I was condoning Sony's charging too much on a console. To me, that was insulting.

Oh, I fully suspect that a lot of people think that it's way too much money to spend on vacation. For me, it's going to be worth every penny however, and I suspect for you that the PS3 is worth every penny as well. I totally respect that that is your opinion, and that someone else will have an opinion that I wasted a lot of money on a vacation.

My point was that it's not just about not being able to afford the system in question. I won't even say it's the PS3, because there are plenty of people that thing the 360 is too pricey too, it just seems more reasonable on a surface comparison. Plenty of people have the money to buy these systems, and still think they are too expensive. But you are right, bitching about it isn't a way to solve the problem and gets no where. If you can't wait for the system to drop in price, then find a way to pay for one. Denog, I know you got creative in your method of getting a PS3. If you can't afford one, wait for the price to drop. Bitching is not going to be productive, nor force Sony or MS to cut their prices any quicker.

And for the record, I thought that comment about condoning Sony's price was out of line as well. It came across as very condescending when I read it.

 

[theBishop]

Opportunity cost. $600 could go to
*A $600 console
*A $300 console plus 5 games
*A $250 console, a $130 portable, plus 2-3 games for each
*No new console; 20 games for currently-owned platforms

You say "console" as if every console is equal. That's like going to Best Buy and asking for a "computer".

 

[TemplaerDude]

i think i have every right to complain about the price.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

This deserves an explanation. Why the hell did you do this? If there was nothing wrong with your PS2, why did you buy a PStwo? The PStwo doesn't offer anything beneficial over the PS2 other than size. This either proves that: A) You're a hardcore Sony fanboy that doesn't need a legitimate reason. Which is fine, really. B) You really do have a shitload of extra money to spend and buy stuff for no real reason. Or C) You are really, really bad at making purchasing decisions, in which case you have completely discredited your argument regarding PS3 pricing.

Give me another reason, if you want. I'm very curious to hear your answer.

I did the same thing. I owned a PS2, but as soon as the Slim model came out I bought one. I then ended up giving my PS2 to my ex girlfriends brother.

I also bought a platinum Gamecube when I already owned a Black Gamecube

I bought a DSLite when I already owned a DS

I bought an SP after owning a GBA. Then I bought the NES SP. Then, a Micro.

Buying new verions of hardware isn't something new, ya know. Why should people have to explain themselves?

 

[PantherLotus]

Wait a sec, which thread is this? Is this the "justify your console's price thread" or the ever-entertaining "bash poor people thread"? It could also be the "i can't afford it = it doesn't exist" thread, but that would just be tacky.

 

[DjangoReinhardt]

I don't have anything like that at hand, but I'm positive you're wrong about last generation being cheapest. A launch PS2 might be slightly cheaper than a launch PS1 at the same non-adjusted price, but when PS2 dragged its price drops out so much longer, it more than made up for the difference. A $600 console now would be like a $400 launch SNES.

I was thinking more in terms of the total cost of console gaming and including the costs of software, too. It sure seemed like it was easier than ever to pick up games on the cheap.

 

[Wraith]

You say "console" as if every console is equal. That's like going to Best Buy and asking for a "computer".

This is exactly where you're wrong. To many people, every console IS equal. Games(PS3) = Games(Wii) = Games(360). If all you're going to do is play EA Sports titles, why pay the PS3's premium over the 360?

So, JoshuaJSlone's comparison applies to much of the console videogame market.

 

[gkryhewy]

I can't believe this thread still lives. Let me add my own worthless perspective: I can comfortably afford a PS3, but the knowledge that most other people can't afford it (or won't pay that much out of principle) makes me feel pretty sure that the console will tank (relatively), thereby removing any incentive for me to spend my 600 bucks when I already have a 360.

 

[Ryu1999]

I can't believe this thread still lives. Let me add my own worthless perspective: I can comfortably afford a PS3, but the knowledge that most other people can't afford it (or won't pay that much out of principle) makes me feel pretty sure that the console will tank (relatively), thereby removing any incentive for me to spend my 600 bucks when I already have a 360.

You win the thread

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

I can't believe this thread still lives. Let me add my own worthless perspective: I can comfortably afford a PS3, but the knowledge that most other people can't afford it (or won't pay that much out of principle) makes me feel pretty sure that the console will tank (relatively), thereby removing any incentive for me to spend my 600 bucks when I already have a 360.

.

If I could look into the future and was guaranteed the PS3 would be the undisputed winner of this generation, $600 would be an expensive, but fair price. I'd pay it.

I just don't have that much faith in Sony right now.

 

[DjangoReinhardt]

Posting a history of inflation-adjusted console prices is idiotic. Prices fall over time, technology improves. That's not how technology works for the most part. If it did, everything would be out of everyones price range. This argument doesn't hold water in the slightest.

What's a meaningful way to find the actual cost to the consumer for console gaming in each era, then?

 

[3rdman]

It seems like this thread is really a rant against people complaining about the PS3's price, amiright? Look, anyway you slice it, the PS3 is expensive...for some its out of their price range, for others its a chance to buy an HD console with no scaler. In the end, we are all gamers and thats ALL I WANT, so its a shame that they didn't provide such a console as it would saved them a ton and sold like mad. Hell, they could've sold a second uber-console with all the fixings and still satiated the HD market. But whatever...

There are also technical reasons for being pissed about the price...its just not very impressive (yet). I've seen nothing (graphically) to justify the price when their competitor is doing quite well with (supposedly) less.

 

[theBishop]

This is exactly where you're wrong. To many people, every console IS equal. Games(PS3) = Games(Wii) = Games(360). If all you're going to do is play EA Sports titles, why pay the PS3's premium over the 360?

So, JoshuaJSlone's comparison applies to much of the console videogame market.

I'm not wrong, your "many people" are wrong.

If all you're going to do is play EA Sports titles, why pay the 360's premium over the PS2?

 

[chriskzoo]

It's all about bitching about what you can't afford/find. For some reason people think that if they don't have console X that they might be missing out on something - so they take to the message boards to try and make sure that nobody else is having a good time either. Seriously, why would you care if somebody else is having a good time with a console, no matter what they paid for it?

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

It's all about bitching about what you can't afford/find. For some reason people think that if they don't have console X that they might be missing out on something - so they take to the message boards to try and make sure that nobody else is having a good time either. Seriously, why would you care if somebody else is having a good time with a console, no matter what they paid for it?

I think you're pretty off the mark, actually.

 

[seat]

I did the same thing. I owned a PS2, but as soon as the Slim model came out I bought one. I then ended up giving my PS2 to my ex girlfriends brother.

This is different. Buying a PStwo because you were giving away your old PS2 as a gift to a friend is not the same as buying a new PStwo for the hell of it when you already own a PS2.

I also bought a platinum Gamecube when I already owned a Black Gamecube

Deserves explanation. Too much money on your hands, or is black really that much better than platinum?

I bought a DSLite when I already owned a DS

Different. The Lite offers much better picture quality over the old model. It's not just the shell that's different.

I bought an SP after owning a GBA. Then I bought the NES SP. Then, a Micro.

Same with the DSlite. However I think the NES SP purchase goes back to how much money you have to burn.

Buying new verions of hardware isn't something new, ya know. Why should people have to explain themselves?

Because it relates directly to the topic of this thread, and the user who created it made it an issue. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.

 

[Battersea Power Station]

The "I'll buy it once the price drops" routine is getting so old!! We're gamers. We game to game because we want to game and the absence of gaming is bad for the soul.

This is the folly of many a GAFfer.

Just because you can't play current titles doesn't mean you can't play games. I'm still working on a bunch of 'Cube games I never went through. But even if I had played them, I would want to play them again.

Games are not one-time use. I'm about to go through VJ, DMC1/3, and NG yet again because they're amazing action games. Be happy with what you have, and squeeze your games for that last ounce of gameplay before you start looking towards the next big or hip thing.

You say "console" as if every console is equal. That's like going to Best Buy and asking for a "computer".

That's a horrendous thing to say and I hope you can live with it on your conscience. Had I said it, I'd be dousing myself in holy water to get the evils out.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

This is different. Buying a PStwo because you were giving away your old PS2 as a gift to a friend is not the same as buying a new PStwo for the hell of it when you already own a PS2.



Deserves explanation. Too much money on your hands, or is black really that much better than platinum?



Different. The Lite offers much better picture quality over the old model. It's not just the shell that's different.



Same with the DSlite. However I think the NES SP purchase goes back to how much money you have to burn.



Because it relates directly to the topic of this thread, and the user who created it made it an issue. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.

Well, I didn't buy the PSslim with the intention of giving my old PS2 away. It just happened a few months later because I felt bad that he only had a broken PSone.

A big part of the gaming hobby is collecting. I don't buy every color or every version of something, but when something's labeled as a limited edition (plat cube, nes SP) it's fun to buy it. It's not the smartest use of cash, but neither is gaming in general. But, we do it because it's fun - and collecting systems for some (and some people are REALLY crazy about it) just adds to the enjoyment.

I wouldn't buy a PS3 @ $600.

But, if I already had a PS3 and in 3-4 years they came out with a specical, non-spiderman edition PS3, I'd probably bite too. As long as the PS3 was less than $200, anyways (which it wouldn't be).