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Please note. This is not a discussion about when N64 VC is coming to Wii U; merely the fact that when/if it does, which Rare games can come to Wii U VC.
The discussion on RareWare games coming to Nintendo platforms since they were bought by Microsoft has been up for controversy ever since. Hype for RareWare games has been so consistent throughout the years; especially on these forums, and of course my self. Those whom grew up with the NES, SNES, and N64 have had very found memories of Rare games as they were consistent in quality similar to that of those developed truly by Nintendo.
Super Nintendo
Battletoads
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3
Killer Instinct
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run
Nintendo 64
Killer Instinct Gold
Blast Corps
Goldeneye 007
Diddy Kong Racing
Banjo-Kazooie
Jet Force Gemini
Donkey Kong 64
Perfect Dark
Mickey's Speedway USA
Banjo-Tooie
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Let's start out with Super Nintendo.
Battletoads. I'm not too familar with these series, but it was on other platforms before Rare became a Second Party to Nintendo. I do not know if Rare truly owns the license to these game; but I am assuming they do. Since they might, the license is probably owned by Microsoft now; which means it more than likely would not come to Wii U VC. However; Microsoft through THQ did publish games on the GBA, so technically they could; but highly unlikely.
Verdict: Most likely not.
Donkey Kong Country games were thought to be removed due to licensing issues for unknown reasons when they were removed from the Wii. However they are now back on the Wii and Wii U in Europe and Japan. American & Canada markets seem to still be in a state of flux. It seems that since they have been released in other markets by Nintendo that they will definitely come to America.
Verdict. Yes; with one market left to release in.
Killer Instinct. Keeping this one short. Verdict? No. Microsoft owns the IP and has developed a new Killer Instinct for the Xbox One.
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run. This one and the N64 version are my favorite baseball games ever. Nintendo still owns the Seattle Mariners as far as I know and since the only real name in the game was Griffey; I don't see why this couldn't happen.
Verdict. Possibly; but most likely not.
Nintendo 64
Killer Instinct Gold. Same as the SNES. No. Never. The arcade versions of the game has been released on Xbox One.
Blast Corps. One of my personal favorite games from Rare. I truly don't know who owns the license to this game. Nintendo published this game, however the Microsoft acquisition has made this one difficult to determine. There's been zero acknowledgement as far as I know from either Microsoft, Rare, or Nintendo on this game. Unfortunately the series is probably dead, but so are a lot of games that come out on VC. Again, the GBA games through THQ has made the scenario difficult to determine.
Verdict? Possible, but most likely not.
Goldeneye 007. In my mind, the best FPS ever made. It was one of the most influentials FPS ever made for consoles. Rumor from years ago that a remake was being made of this game that was going to come out on the Xbox 360; with Nintendo Wii getting the game in its original format on Wii N64 VC. According to the rumor, Iwata prevented this from happening. However; the Wii U throws a wrench in to this. Apparently Iwata blocked it since the N64 VC and the remake on 360 were going to look drastically different in picture quality. With the Wii U, the remake could possibly appear on both due to both systems being HD. The other issue is the James Bond license; however, if the rumor is true about the Wii N64 and 360 remake, maybe it won't be a problem? We all saw the leaked images of Goldeneye 007 on the 360, so it leads more credence that it may not be that big of an issue with the James Bond license.
Verdict? Possibly on Wii U and Xbox One.
[/b]Diddy Kong Racing.[/b] This one is tricky. A "sequel" was released on the Nintendo DS that was published by Nintendo. However the only problem with this game being released is that Banjo and Conker are in this game. Those characters are truly owned by Rare/Microsoft. We've seen with recent Mega Man GBA VC that Capcom edited the ROM to modify a few things. Perhaps Nintendo could do the same? There is another rumor that Diddy Kong Racing is in development for the Wii U as well.
Verdict? Possibly; but with ROM editing.
Banjo-Kazzoie & Banjo-Tooie. Short and sweet. Verdict? No. These games were ported over to the Xbox 360; which might I add, look and play incredibly. I highly recommend anyone who has a 360 to pick up these games. Unfortunately they will never appear on the Wii U.
Jet Force Gemini / Conker's Bad Fury Day. I'm grouping these together because they were both published by Rare. Since they were published by Rare and not Nintendo it means these IPs are now owned by Microsoft. Conker's Bad Fury Day had a remake on the original Xbox which was fantastic. Unfortunately Jet Force Gemini IP is probably dead.
Verdict? No.
Donkey Kong 64. In my mind the worst Rare game they made while with Nintendo. However there are fans of this game out there; including a friend of mine and his son who somehow are obsessed with this game. I don't see a real reason why this game couldn't be released on the Wii U VC. The only thing they would have to do is edit out the arcade games that are hidden inside.
Verdict? Most likely.
Perfect Dark. This IP is wholly owned by Microsoft. A sequel was released on the Xbox 360 along with the updated port of the original. While the sequel has questionably quality, the original ported to the 360 is very well done and in my mind holds up today.
Verdict? No. Never.
Mickey's Speedway Racing For some reason I totally skipped this game; so I would love to see it come out on Wii U VC. I don't think there would be anything inherently to block this game coming out other than Disney denying it for whatever reason.
Verdict? Probably
So there you have it GAF. What do you think? Is this the most reasonable explanation of RareWare games coming to Wii U VC. I would personally love for all of them to come out on the Wii U. However due to licensing, Microsoft buy out, and the state of VC on Wii U; it seems as if most of these games won't see the light of day in its original form on the Wii U.
The discussion on RareWare games coming to Nintendo platforms since they were bought by Microsoft has been up for controversy ever since. Hype for RareWare games has been so consistent throughout the years; especially on these forums, and of course my self. Those whom grew up with the NES, SNES, and N64 have had very found memories of Rare games as they were consistent in quality similar to that of those developed truly by Nintendo.
Super Nintendo
Battletoads
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3
Killer Instinct
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run
Nintendo 64
Killer Instinct Gold
Blast Corps
Goldeneye 007
Diddy Kong Racing
Banjo-Kazooie
Jet Force Gemini
Donkey Kong 64
Perfect Dark
Mickey's Speedway USA
Banjo-Tooie
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Let's start out with Super Nintendo.
Battletoads. I'm not too familar with these series, but it was on other platforms before Rare became a Second Party to Nintendo. I do not know if Rare truly owns the license to these game; but I am assuming they do. Since they might, the license is probably owned by Microsoft now; which means it more than likely would not come to Wii U VC. However; Microsoft through THQ did publish games on the GBA, so technically they could; but highly unlikely.
Verdict: Most likely not.
Donkey Kong Country games were thought to be removed due to licensing issues for unknown reasons when they were removed from the Wii. However they are now back on the Wii and Wii U in Europe and Japan. American & Canada markets seem to still be in a state of flux. It seems that since they have been released in other markets by Nintendo that they will definitely come to America.
Verdict. Yes; with one market left to release in.
Killer Instinct. Keeping this one short. Verdict? No. Microsoft owns the IP and has developed a new Killer Instinct for the Xbox One.
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run. This one and the N64 version are my favorite baseball games ever. Nintendo still owns the Seattle Mariners as far as I know and since the only real name in the game was Griffey; I don't see why this couldn't happen.
Verdict. Possibly; but most likely not.
Nintendo 64
Killer Instinct Gold. Same as the SNES. No. Never. The arcade versions of the game has been released on Xbox One.
Blast Corps. One of my personal favorite games from Rare. I truly don't know who owns the license to this game. Nintendo published this game, however the Microsoft acquisition has made this one difficult to determine. There's been zero acknowledgement as far as I know from either Microsoft, Rare, or Nintendo on this game. Unfortunately the series is probably dead, but so are a lot of games that come out on VC. Again, the GBA games through THQ has made the scenario difficult to determine.
Verdict? Possible, but most likely not.
Goldeneye 007. In my mind, the best FPS ever made. It was one of the most influentials FPS ever made for consoles. Rumor from years ago that a remake was being made of this game that was going to come out on the Xbox 360; with Nintendo Wii getting the game in its original format on Wii N64 VC. According to the rumor, Iwata prevented this from happening. However; the Wii U throws a wrench in to this. Apparently Iwata blocked it since the N64 VC and the remake on 360 were going to look drastically different in picture quality. With the Wii U, the remake could possibly appear on both due to both systems being HD. The other issue is the James Bond license; however, if the rumor is true about the Wii N64 and 360 remake, maybe it won't be a problem? We all saw the leaked images of Goldeneye 007 on the 360, so it leads more credence that it may not be that big of an issue with the James Bond license.
Verdict? Possibly on Wii U and Xbox One.
[/b]Diddy Kong Racing.[/b] This one is tricky. A "sequel" was released on the Nintendo DS that was published by Nintendo. However the only problem with this game being released is that Banjo and Conker are in this game. Those characters are truly owned by Rare/Microsoft. We've seen with recent Mega Man GBA VC that Capcom edited the ROM to modify a few things. Perhaps Nintendo could do the same? There is another rumor that Diddy Kong Racing is in development for the Wii U as well.
Verdict? Possibly; but with ROM editing.
Banjo-Kazzoie & Banjo-Tooie. Short and sweet. Verdict? No. These games were ported over to the Xbox 360; which might I add, look and play incredibly. I highly recommend anyone who has a 360 to pick up these games. Unfortunately they will never appear on the Wii U.
Jet Force Gemini / Conker's Bad Fury Day. I'm grouping these together because they were both published by Rare. Since they were published by Rare and not Nintendo it means these IPs are now owned by Microsoft. Conker's Bad Fury Day had a remake on the original Xbox which was fantastic. Unfortunately Jet Force Gemini IP is probably dead.
Verdict? No.
Donkey Kong 64. In my mind the worst Rare game they made while with Nintendo. However there are fans of this game out there; including a friend of mine and his son who somehow are obsessed with this game. I don't see a real reason why this game couldn't be released on the Wii U VC. The only thing they would have to do is edit out the arcade games that are hidden inside.
Verdict? Most likely.
Perfect Dark. This IP is wholly owned by Microsoft. A sequel was released on the Xbox 360 along with the updated port of the original. While the sequel has questionably quality, the original ported to the 360 is very well done and in my mind holds up today.
Verdict? No. Never.
Mickey's Speedway Racing For some reason I totally skipped this game; so I would love to see it come out on Wii U VC. I don't think there would be anything inherently to block this game coming out other than Disney denying it for whatever reason.
Verdict? Probably
So there you have it GAF. What do you think? Is this the most reasonable explanation of RareWare games coming to Wii U VC. I would personally love for all of them to come out on the Wii U. However due to licensing, Microsoft buy out, and the state of VC on Wii U; it seems as if most of these games won't see the light of day in its original form on the Wii U.
