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Ratchet And Clank:ACiT preorder bonuses
- Thread starter Fersis
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jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
jepjepjep said:
If not having a ship/weapon skin is "not having the complete" experience, then yes. Most everything in the bonuses is unlockable though by playing the game (some things requiring much more than others)
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Great news!
jstevenson said:
Hey what about the Home avatar stuff? Will that become free down the line? All the pre-order Avatar costumes have NEVER been sold on Home.(KZ2 outfit/Reaper outfit) Will that be given free down the line by playing the demo or something? I really want the moon DLC thing but I liek Home too.
I updated the OP.jepjepjep said:
You can unlock everything just playing the game!
Yes you can unlock it by playing the game.KillJade said:
This is by far the worst thread i made
(Even worst that the one about SEGA japanese horse racing game with 0 replies)
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
What a diva.jepjepjep said:
fatigues_gasolini
Member
jepjepjep said:
But its a skin, it doesnt do anything, it doesnt affect gameplay, it doesnt affect your experience at all.
badcrumble
Member
And which will require the most effort to get? I see that the cryo glove is a weapon skin (and getting the weapon early) but I assume that a version of said weapon is normally obtained during a playthrough, right? If so, I'm guessing the Discovery package is the one requiring the most effort to unlock.jstevenson said:
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
gamerecks said:
This was my question too - so it's never ok to have some sort of exclusive skin (not gameplay effecting) for midnight launches, or pre-orders, or really skilled players who've won a major tournament or something?
Die Squirrel Die
Member
jstevenson said:
Midnight launches? No, it's not okay
Preorders? General preorders? Maybe, erring towards no Store/Chain Specific preorders? No
Tournaments? Yes
I can't believe this many people are bitching about preorder bonuses. You know, if they never even mentioned these bonuses, how does anyone know what content was included and what content wasn't from a game they have never played before? Looking at Insomniac's history, I don't think anyone could ever even dance around the idea of their games lacking content. Quit whining about free shit and quit acting like these people (who probably work harder than most people on these forums) owe you something.
You're being circumspect about the answer to a direct question, for the sake of retailers presumably, so it's really not doing "right" by me, no.jstevenson said:
But there's no real right or wrong here, js. There's just more appealing/less appealing and I didn't figure Insomniac to take a route I find distinctly unappealing. Things change, I guess.
badcrumble
Member
I don't care about missing out on skins. Depending on what the discovery package is like I'll probably go for that or the one that includes the box basher from the start for convenience's sake.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
*Sigh* Insomniac...why?
The last one is okay, but I think the other two are just cheap incentives to buy early; unlocking areas automatically that those who don't pre-order will have to themselves. I think putting an exclusive for those who buy new is fine, but not for just early adopters.
jstevenson said:
The last one is okay, but I think the other two are just cheap incentives to buy early; unlocking areas automatically that those who don't pre-order will have to themselves. I think putting an exclusive for those who buy new is fine, but not for just early adopters.
Lonesome_Raod
Member
This trend needs to end. It's awful.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Fersis said:
Just did. I'm disappointed Insomniac is caving into pressure from retailers to have exclusive pre-order bonuses; Gamestop makes a killing off selling your games used, often only a few dollars cheaper then new. Now you're helping them sell more copies, which a significant percentage they will resell later? Like I edited in my last post, it's better to give incentives to buy the game new instead of early.
jstevenson said:
For a torunament? Sure
For preorders or midnight launches? Only if made available to other after some time.
But I'm against any kind of splintered preorders. Stuff like you can only get the bonus from a certain retailer, or the bonus is different based on the retailer.
I see it as bullshit. I understand why retailers want it, but I don't like it one bit.
Then again, I'm european and I'll buy this in Europe, so I hope in Europe it wont be a splintered bonus.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm not a fan of in game bonuses but missing out on skins that don't effect gameplay doesn't really bother me. It is a slippery slope though. The trend is becoming more and more common and it is disappointing when a fan centric developer like Insomniac joins in on the this consumer unfriendly practice.
Broadbandito
Member
everyone that is complaining is making too much of a big fucking deal
fatigues_gasolini
Member
Fuck it, the fact that people are threatening to buy the game used and not support the developer over fucking SKINS, is beyond rediculous. Im staying out of here so I dont have to read this petty juvenile bullshit.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Oh man I am all over this.
Edit. You people need to calm down.
Edit. You people need to calm down.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
gamerecks said:
I like you're original post better.
gamerecks said:
I want to say though that exclusive skins would not deter me from buying the game new.
What I'm saying is, in the long term isn't it better to sell more new copies then more copies early? In fact, by selling more copies earlier on, it INCREASES the chances of stores like Gamestop selling more used copies for $5 cheaper earlier. Isn't it better to give the consumer a reason to buy it new overtime instead of near it's initial release? I just think the Rock Band 2 and Gears of War 2 approach is the way to go.
Steve Youngblood
Member
This is where I'm torn. I don't mind that they're doing this stuff, because they're not going to entice me by dangling a carrot on a stick since I don't like carrots. So, if they want to keep throwing this nonsense at us, they can do so and I'll just carry on with my business as usual.gamerecks said:
Nevertheless, it's always faulty logic to assume that something being good for the developer/publisher should be taken into account. Being prodded to preorder is not a convenience for the consumer. Since they're in the market to sell consumer goods, it serves them well to cater to the will of the consumer, and not the other way around. Doing giant corporations a solid isn't a charitable act that helps me sleep better at night.
And just in case it isn't clear, I have no ill will towards Insomniac. I like their games, so rock on I say. However, saying you're helping out Insomniac or Gamestop by preordering is a poor, poor defense.
jstevenson said:
There's only one group you need to cater to, and it's not the retailers. It's not like they're going to stop stocking your product, their business relies on you letting them make a profit off of your merchandise (and then they screw you entirely by turning around and selling the same copies over and over again and keeping all of the ridiculous profit via the used market).
Screw the retailers.
The end buyer is the only one you guys should be worried about, if Sony (or any other publisher for that matter) had half a brain, they'd simply sell these games directly from playstation.com, uncut, and cut out the middle man entirely.
I've always thought it insane that I can order a product from anywhere in the world EXCEPT from the people who actually make the damn thing. How is that good business sense? You're already paying to ship it somewhere, why not ship it straight to me?
Anyways, I digress, I'm rambling.... all I care about is the Moon level, hopefully it will be available within the confines of the game, or I'll be disappointed.
djblackice
Member
Steve Youngblood
Member
Again, I don't know if I'm the one who should be addressing this. It doesn't bother me that they do it. However -- and this depends very largely on what is required to unlock the content -- I'm not always a huge proponent of unlockable content, either. If it still isn't accessible through the course of regular gameplay, it might as well be a lame preorder bonus. I just operate on the presumption that if the content requires me to jump through annoying hoops to access it, they must not be too proud of it.Cesar said:
viralmarketeer
Member
That's funny, I always took it the other way... like THIS is the ultimate reward in this game. If you do all these silly little things, it should be WORTH it with this huge payoff.Steve Youngblood said:
Steve Youngblood
Member
I assume that if they wanted me to see it, it would be displayed prominently in their product. The ultimate reward should be given to anyone and everyone who is supporting the title by buying it. Rewards for dedicated playtime should be limited to silly items that only the hardcore would care about -- like alternate skins/costumes, or achievement points.viralmarketeer said: