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Ratchet & Clank Future:ToD GameSpot Review
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IF u look at the reviewer, he's rather some No-name gamespot staff. (compared to ppl like Jeff, or other ppl whose opinions should count more.
Look at the games he's reviewed, sports games!!!! and licensed games that come out on every single system yet all suck. HIs reviews average of like..a 5/10 score ... to which i found out hes also the one who reviewed HEAVENLY SWORD... only 8/10. I think he's just a diff type of gamer?... when other sites all over gives A ratings to Ratchet, and he gives it a 7.5!...
Look at the games he's reviewed, sports games!!!! and licensed games that come out on every single system yet all suck. HIs reviews average of like..a 5/10 score ... to which i found out hes also the one who reviewed HEAVENLY SWORD... only 8/10. I think he's just a diff type of gamer?... when other sites all over gives A ratings to Ratchet, and he gives it a 7.5!...
what what? it's not a 10. it's like comparing american beauty to back to the future 3 and wanting to give the latter a 10. it just wouldn.t happen. ratchet isn't 10 material at this point. i think too many people were putting stake on it's jump to next gen but it's no mario world to mario 64 gimme a break.TEH-CJ said:
AltogetherAndrews
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Liquid said:
I think the whole problem with your post was that it was basically dumb. You're seriously claiming that this game doesn't have for example awesome graphics, which I guess is fine if you're some kind of insane person, but don't be too surprised when people point and laugh in your direction.
nelsonroyale
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who cares?
alot of people it seems haha
Liquid said:
I don't think very many people were expecting 10s, since the previous R&C games all averaged in the 90% range. I don't think many were expecting Gamespot to score it 1.5 points lower than previous games in the series though. Other than the Gamespot review, the other review scores are in line with what I expected the game to get, high 8s and low 9s.
If that were the case, Mario and Zelda games wouldn't get 10s. R&C has never been known as a series with great stories, but the writing is at least above the level of those franchises.
Maybe not innovative, but the gameplay is very good. And it seems like a new FPS that doesn't do anything particularly innovative in the gameplay department gets a 10 every month these days.
Ratchet and Clank has those.
Excluding the cell phone stuff, this is the sixth game in the series. Lots of franchises have gotten that many sequels in a similar time frame, like Call of Duty, Zelda, Splinter Cell, Metroid, etc. I don't know why R&C in particular is being singled out.
It will do pretty well. A lot of people tend to underestimate sales of the R&C series, and Insomniac has a very loyal fanbase and does a great job reaching out to the community. I'd predict somewhere around 200k in October, and the game will break a million sold worldwide.
AltogetherAndrews
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Azrael said:
Well, the innovation is in the weapons. One could argue that forcing enemies into dance in order to make for easy disposal of said enemies is something that is a rare sight in games.
As for the story, I think characters have quite a bit to do with how engrossing something can be, and Ratchet certainly succeeds there. Every entry in the series has had strong characters, and this doesn't seem to be an exception to that rule. And the writing seems to be a cut above, although maybe it's the less than bloody serious style of the game that makes people assume that it's just standard platformer stuff.
Liquid said:
R&C does have awesome graphics and sound. It isn't particularly innovative, but that doesn't mean the gameplay is bad or broken. As for an "immersive story," it isn't a necessary component of all games. I'd hate it if Ghosts 'N Goblins or Super Mario tried for an "immersive story" (the intent and result would both be described as silly and superfluous), and I place Ratchet in a similar category.
As for sales, I don't see why that even matters. For what it's worth, I'm guessing that R&C is more deserving of sales than most (or perhaps all) other PS3 games. I'd hope that sales would vindicate the talent at Insomniac even when GameSpot's review score didn't. Still, as others have pointed out, it's a pretty clear outlier when the game's scores average ~90%. I certainly won't insult the reviewer -- different strokes for different folks or whatever. I love the Metroid Prime games and wholeheartedly agree with publications scoring them in the 9-10 range, but there are plenty of (extremely vocal) Gaffers who would be delighted to review the games in the ones or twos.
imo again IMO the game doesn't look THAT great. it's the natural progression of the game and that's about it in my eyes. it's always looked great but now it's that great with more stuff going on on the screen. i mean i guess you really can't do much in that type of game but it's not the graphic jump from like halo 2 to halo 3 but again it's more an artistic choice i guess.
AltogetherAndrews
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Liquid said:
I better stop reading your posts before my eyes end up rolling out of their sockets. Good show, clowndude.
AltogetherAndrews
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Tristam said:
Dude's full of it, if that wasn't already obvious to everyone. The "tread lightly" advice might be unnecessary, however; the guy has been basically crawling towards his goal since he started posting in this thread.
PAYBACKill
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Liquid said:
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seriously though, JR....halo 2 to halo 3's graphical jump is really example you want to use?
nelsonroyale
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Liquid said:
huh, thats its more than the graphic jump between halo 2 and 3...and yeah I ve played that game....infact, thats kind of my feelings about Halo 3...just not my type of game, and if I was reviewing it wouldn't have got as high as most reviews...there is always an element of subjectivity
DIrtyWeasel
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As much as I enjoy Halo 3, to say that the graphic improvement from Halo 2 to Halo 3 is bigger than the improvement from previous R&C games to R&C Future ToD is just ridiculous.Liquid said:
mr_bishiuk
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Once the novelty of the flashy graphics has worn off people will take this game for what it is
an 8.5
yeah, maybe...once it was cool to have a bunch of (funny) weapons to dispose of your enemies (instead of just one - jumping on their heads) nowadays this is losing identity.jrricky said:
And once it was cool to have a story in such a game, nowadays it must be perfect (if it has one, having no story to speak of at all is still perfectly fine I assume).
If the demo is any indication, this game is pure fun and thats what should matter...and if you want to reduce points for stuff like story, they should be in the 0.1 range. But as Gamespot reviewers obviously only think in 0.5 steps now, every little nitpicking obvisously gets at least that much off.
To say the jump between the PS2 Ratchets to this isn't as significant as Halo 2 to Halo 3 is a slap in Insomniac's face... As I'm progressing through the levels, I'm finding different textures everywhere I look, that aren't all a jumbled mess... The lighting is nice and not overly done... Everything looks totally smooth... Everything, everything has great animation... It's very clean and polished...
The story is moving along nice at this point, picking up steam now as I'm off to pirate land...
Gameplay has more than enough interesting touches... The usual swinging, high jumping, soft landing, long jumping stuff is there... The gunplay is the best this series ever saw, which in my book makes it the best in this genre ever... And then there's the little "innovative" touches here and there... So far I used the controller to tilt my way through traffic, fly through loops, and also direct a laser along a path to cut a hole in a rock wall... Not to mention using it to steer a tornado around sweeping up enemies and junk... Those subtle touches are really nice, and don't feel thrown at you just for the sake of it...
Sounds incredible on my 7.1lpcm rig... The effects, voice, and music are top scores...
Once again I noticed that after the first level of the game, it lowers it's excitement and action and ramps up just like Resistance did... I think Insomniac threw in that opening scene just to get everything off to a jump start unlike the supposed slower start in Resistance as people thought...
To say anything really really bad about the game, is to acknowledging you haven't played it... Is it on the easy side? So far it's not hard, but that's because it's a game meant for a wide audience... I died a couple times in platforming instances, and perhaps once from being over swarmed as you'll see 20 enemies (maybe it was more?) chasing you around on the screen at a time...
:lol ... And plays better too btw
The story is moving along nice at this point, picking up steam now as I'm off to pirate land...
Gameplay has more than enough interesting touches... The usual swinging, high jumping, soft landing, long jumping stuff is there... The gunplay is the best this series ever saw, which in my book makes it the best in this genre ever... And then there's the little "innovative" touches here and there... So far I used the controller to tilt my way through traffic, fly through loops, and also direct a laser along a path to cut a hole in a rock wall... Not to mention using it to steer a tornado around sweeping up enemies and junk... Those subtle touches are really nice, and don't feel thrown at you just for the sake of it...
Sounds incredible on my 7.1lpcm rig... The effects, voice, and music are top scores...
Once again I noticed that after the first level of the game, it lowers it's excitement and action and ramps up just like Resistance did... I think Insomniac threw in that opening scene just to get everything off to a jump start unlike the supposed slower start in Resistance as people thought...
To say anything really really bad about the game, is to acknowledging you haven't played it... Is it on the easy side? So far it's not hard, but that's because it's a game meant for a wide audience... I died a couple times in platforming instances, and perhaps once from being over swarmed as you'll see 20 enemies (maybe it was more?) chasing you around on the screen at a time...
faf said:
:lol ... And plays better too btw
DevelopmentArrested
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J-Rzez strikes again!
cartoon_soldier
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Ah, this should be fun.
Anyway, looking at the IGN, Gamespot and 1up review it doesn't look like a game that will be universally loved.
Anyway, looking at the IGN, Gamespot and 1up review it doesn't look like a game that will be universally loved.
UltimaKilo
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So is this the worst R&C according to GameSpot? 
SolidSnakex
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Tristam said:
So was the comment he responded to.
isnt it kinda distgusting that millions of pounds are spent and talented and passionate people make a game, only for someone to give it a low score not because the game deserves it but to increase traffic to your site. i can see relations between sony and gamespot becoming strained now.
I've played R&C. To the person who said it "isn't a 10" - you're right. It's an 11. I mean it's RATCHET AND CLANK NEXT GEN. If you love the games (I love them - though I only 'enjoyed' Deadlocked), you will love this. That's it. Plain and simple. I'm obviously biased seeing as a I bought my PS3 for this, but I think I'm also correct.
dr3upmushroom
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I just think it's funny how so many people are paying attention to the scores that a R&C game is getting. I don't remember that many people caring about the series when R&C:UYA was getting 10s left and right.
fortified_concept
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Cerrius said:
your avatar made it sooooo easy for me
Anyway I don't know this Aaron guy and from what I checked he only reviews bad movie/sports/racing franchises and recently Heavenly Sword. I'd expect Gamespot to use more prestigious reviewers for their high-profile PS3 reviews. Whatever it's just a review, who cares.
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