dragonflys545
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Oh yeah 70+million is not a huge market.
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Razer Doesn't Make PS3 Accessories Because Its Boss Rarely Plays One
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Oh yeah 70+million is not a huge market.
Virtua Ben
Member
Has Tan been getting PR advice from Mattrick?
mr teaspoon
Member
Look, it's one thing if people want to petition Razer to make PS3 products because they like what the company makes. But this attitude of 'that reason isn't good enough, YOU'RE BEING BIASED AND IT'S UNFAIR' is a little annoying.
When you run a peripheral company, you can develop for whatever platform pleases you. It's not like Razer manufactures anything essential, PS3 gamers aren't somehow without charging cables or power cords.
When you run a peripheral company, you can develop for whatever platform pleases you. It's not like Razer manufactures anything essential, PS3 gamers aren't somehow without charging cables or power cords.
dragonflys545
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Oh well I don't buy their crap on the PC anyway.
And we're allowed to question and criticize him as (technically) potential consumers let alone most of us residents in countries that allow free speech, this street runs both ways.
(Unless a mod dictates otherwise for some reason, but I think it's safe to assume that PROBABLY won't happen.)
Oddly enough I am using a chinese knock off of Razor which has lasted twice as long as the Razor Plasma that I had before it (and looks better and feels better).
Razor can fuck themselves.
I don't get it. All we're talking about here is taking the exact same gamepads they're selling for the 360 and wiring them for use on the PS3. This isn't some amazing feat of engineering that would take millions of dollars and hundreds of man-hours to pull off. Sounds like he's leaving easy money on the table for no good reason.
Traumahound
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He donated $10,000 to each of the Wasteland 2 and Torment Kickstarter projects, so he does put his money where his mouth is.
Carpe Libertatem
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Yep. People here just took offense to his comment about dusting off his PS3
Besides, it makes sense that he wouldn't design a product for use with a console he doesn't play simply because of the fact that he doesn't play it (and won't really understand what is needed for a controller on said console)
Which makes sense until you consider most third party PS3 controllers double as native PC controllers as I recall. Which then becomes the more comically absurd situation that they just need to relabel buttons.
EDIT: Though admittedly most controllers these days at least have an Xinput toggle. Although when looking for their controllers they seem to have made one with a PlayStation-style D-Pad.
Wow, really? I didn't know that, I don't buy third party controllers for my consoles.
They might just have some kind of exclusivity deal with MS.
Yellowflashdude
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But the question is, will they make products for the ps4?
travisbickle
Member
The 360 and PS3 are called 'HDtwins' for a reason, there's no difference.
The only logical explanation is they don't sell well on 360, so they break even or makes a slight loss on the 360 peripherals, and he wouldn't wish to make more of a loss on PS3 on a product he wouldn't use.
NobleGreenBeast
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I do not see a problem with this situation. Do you guys not lot like his dislike for the PS3. It is great that he is able to enjoy his work.
â Narayan
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∀ Narayan doesn't buy Razer accessories because they're unreliable pieces of shit.
RukusProvider
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Since you're so well versed in business mind sharing your company's success story with us?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I don't see why anyone would invest in a company with someone in charge with that attitude. It's really that simple.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I'm passionate about making things that break within six months too.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
If I was in business, I would build a reputation then put my products on as many platforms as possible.
What's so hard to understand? I have a PC and access to their product but the reasoning in the OP isn't what I would call smart business.
Does that satisfy your inquisition?
RukusProvider
Banned
How do you know he didn't look at the opportunity cost and decided against it? or that being on specific platforms gives him an industry advantage for promotional and corporate level activity?
As you said, you're not in business which is probably best for you in the long run. It's probably also best to refrain from such future comments.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Well that's kinda the point right? There are millions of active PS3 users, by ignoring them he is also ignoring potentially millions of sales. He has that right, but consumers can also vote back by not purchasing even their PC products. So not only is it dumb to ignore that market it is even dumber to admit this is the reason.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
My knee jerk reaction was what it was. I'm not going back on it. I don't care if I don't have a business degree. This is a forum for discussion. If he would have noted that the company has looked into the venturing onto PS3 but didn't find it viable then that would have sounded better. The tweet didn't elicit a bit of that.
I suppose I should feel bad for that? Come on now.
I don't think people are looking for something specially-designed for the PS3. They just want PS3-compatible versions of Razer's 360 gamepads. Every time there's a thread about the Dual Shock, you'll get some people saying that they wish Sony would switch to an asymmetrical layout like the one on the 360 controller. That makes me think there's a market for a 360-style PS3 controller.
The problem with the situation is that there are PS3 owners who'd like to give this guy their money, but can't because he refuses to support the platform. And the reason he's refusing to support the platform comes off as arbitrary at best. If it was something like, "I think the demand for PS3 peripherals isn't big enough to justify us entering that market," I could understand it. But the statements he made just come off sounding fanboyish.
Razor is privately owned so he can do what he wants I guess...
Still very dumb to miss out on sources of potential revenue though. Also, putting his products on the PS3 doesn't stop him or other Xbox users from enjoying the products. There is literally nothing to lose from putting the products on PS3, unless he legitimately thinks they will make a loss.
Still very dumb to miss out on sources of potential revenue though. Also, putting his products on the PS3 doesn't stop him or other Xbox users from enjoying the products. There is literally nothing to lose from putting the products on PS3, unless he legitimately thinks they will make a loss.
He can do what he wants with his own company I guess, I have only ever see their mouse and keyboard stuff overhere, nothing of the console variety.
I can't see why it would be anything other than his own ideals that stop them putting out stuff on other consoles, wired PS3 controllers are a pittance, so licensing if there is any can't be that much. It wouldn't be down to install base seeing as they are pretty even these days, and it uses standard bluetooth as far as I am aware so it it doesn't linger into the area with MS and their proprietary tech.
The only thing that makes me wonder is why they wouldn't, a number of people don't like the DS3, the triggers and analog placement, you'd think if someone like Razer made a 360 like controller for these people seeing as they already make a 360-ish one they would make some money. And their owner could use his rarely used PS3 with a controller he would be used to.
I can't see why it would be anything other than his own ideals that stop them putting out stuff on other consoles, wired PS3 controllers are a pittance, so licensing if there is any can't be that much. It wouldn't be down to install base seeing as they are pretty even these days, and it uses standard bluetooth as far as I am aware so it it doesn't linger into the area with MS and their proprietary tech.
The only thing that makes me wonder is why they wouldn't, a number of people don't like the DS3, the triggers and analog placement, you'd think if someone like Razer made a 360 like controller for these people seeing as they already make a 360-ish one they would make some money. And their owner could use his rarely used PS3 with a controller he would be used to.
Starfish Hero
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Who gives a shit if it doesn't make business sense? It isn't difficult to list all things a business could do to increase profits. How come he doesn't make more console stuff, not just for PS3? What about handhelds? Smartphones? One of the benefits of being a small business, or at least a privately held one, is that you are free to do almost whatever the fuck you want. You don't have to expand if you don't want to, and you can expand into any field you want. If he doesn't want to make PS3 peripherals, then guess what? Fuck PS3! Would it make business sense to make PS3 peripherals? Of course. But if he doesn't want to, he isn't wrong not to. Get over it.
BlackGoku03
Member
There's over 70+ million PS3 owners and they don't want to sell anything to them?
Wow.
Wow.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Because some people who play on PC also maybe own a console as well, and maybe would like to buy a Razer product for said console.
Look, his comment does nothing but make him look childish at best. Saying what he did has no benefit to his business whatsoever. I am not sure what there is to defend.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I read this earlier and I still think his excuse is lame no matter how people try to spin it. I look at it like this, there are many people who would have loved to have a 360-ish controller for the PS3. That alone would have, imo, double his profits because he isn't straying away from what he likes to make. If he likes the 360 controller design better, then why not make that style for the PS3 regardless of what he "really likes". Lame excuse is a lame excuse.
mr teaspoon
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What is the point of that consumer boycotting their PC products? I just do not get the anger on this one. Beyond 'boy I really like Razer and wish they made PS3 stuff', what's the consumers beef here? A company doesn't want to expand its operations....so what? It'd be like boycotting your local McDonalds because they decided not to open that Zimbabwe branch.
Would Razer make a lot of money selling PS3 peripherals? I don't know, probably. Let's assume yes. A poor business decision does not an insult make.
Brofist
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I know that I am personally offended by this. Nah not really, I own a Razer KB/M.
They probabally wouldn't make a lot of money. I can't ever remember holding a third party controller and thinking it was better then the official one. Maybe things have changed but they are usually terrible.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Eh whatever, my comment was meant more in the sense that his comment, though however true in how he feels, is in poor taste and should have just said nothing at all. There is nothing of benefit to what he said. The only thing that could come of his comment is a negative reaction. To what extent that negative reaction is, who knows? But even if it turned one Razer consumer off then it wasn't worth it in my eyes. All I am saying.
My first experience with a Razer product was the Nostromo. Coming from the Belkin Nostromo N50 and N52 I was excited to tr... WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT the Razer version is 
The software? Good luck trying to tag those diagonals because you can only use diags when the software feels like letting you.
Lightweight, cheap plastic that flexes and creaks under pressure. Certainly not built like the tanks Belkin had made. Software that constantly force-quit itself, would lose its profiles, etc. Was junk.
I thought... OK... maybe I can try the Naga - perhaps mice are th... HOLY FUCKING SHIT this thing is TINY AS FUCK and again... made out of some type of cheap, thin plastic crap. Presumably the same type of cheap shit thin plastic that is used to laminate objects in packaging... you know... the same shit that you peel from cardboard backing on your GI Joe figures.
Never tried another Razer product again.
Horrid software.
Horrid construction and materials.
No thanks.
Switched up to my Logitech G13 and G500 and never looked back! Thanks Razer!
Yeah this news on him not caring for PS3 doesn't phase me. I've been a Razer hater for quite some time. Cheap junk, IMO.
The software? Good luck trying to tag those diagonals because you can only use diags when the software feels like letting you.Lightweight, cheap plastic that flexes and creaks under pressure. Certainly not built like the tanks Belkin had made. Software that constantly force-quit itself, would lose its profiles, etc. Was junk.
I thought... OK... maybe I can try the Naga - perhaps mice are th... HOLY FUCKING SHIT this thing is TINY AS FUCK and again... made out of some type of cheap, thin plastic crap. Presumably the same type of cheap shit thin plastic that is used to laminate objects in packaging... you know... the same shit that you peel from cardboard backing on your GI Joe figures.
Never tried another Razer product again.
Horrid software.
Horrid construction and materials.
No thanks.
Switched up to my Logitech G13 and G500 and never looked back! Thanks Razer!
Yeah this news on him not caring for PS3 doesn't phase me. I've been a Razer hater for quite some time. Cheap junk, IMO.
fucking idiot, lol...
I'm not into razer products since I don't PC game as much, but it seems like he's doing people a favor by not having PS3 accessories? How does logitech compare to razor in terms of gaming mice and keyboards? I got the upgraded version of the MX 518, which I haven't opened yet
I'm not into razer products since I don't PC game as much, but it seems like he's doing people a favor by not having PS3 accessories? How does logitech compare to razor in terms of gaming mice and keyboards? I got the upgraded version of the MX 518, which I haven't opened yet
Reactions to this is hilarious. Razer are a PC based company and are heavily vested in it, they aren't console focused.
Top tier car manufacturers aren't going to design a <$10k car just because there is a market for it.
Razer's is very hit and miss, their QC is below average. If you get a good one, it'll last you years, if you get a bad one well... Logitech is a little better but not by much, you'll find people in both camps.
Top tier car manufacturers aren't going to design a <$10k car just because there is a market for it.
Razer's is very hit and miss, their QC is below average. If you get a good one, it'll last you years, if you get a bad one well... Logitech is a little better but not by much, you'll find people in both camps.
My deathadder lasted a bit over a year before the scroll wheel started going bad and it was all downhill from there.
Nocturno999
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I own an Onza. You'll probably do better with an official 360 controller.
fluffydelusions
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My naga still works great for over a year. Best mouse I've had so far.
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Razer's getting owned really hard in this thread. They might go out of business if this continues.
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