Manabanana
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Re/Code speculates: NX secret could be "social AR" gaming?
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Yes the article addresses this directly.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Will their hardware allow them to fully deliver this vision or will it be a Wii U kind of compromise?
LincolnSixVacano
Banned
Do this, and lose the core gamer forever!
Might make sense business-wise though, as you'll gain the casual/mobile crowd back from the Wii days.
But you WILL lose every core gamer you had left.
I think they're trying to say there'll be a fairly linear solution to porting games across to NX. Some kind of middle ground platform.
No way you base your platform's capabilities around that, though. It's just very limiting and not that great to have to hold up a gamepad and peer through it.
Meta console
Dagobert Duck
Member
But wearing something like Okulus is better? Its not like you need it all the time, dude it was just an example...
Neff
Member
My guess is that its guts will be a slightly higher spec Wii U.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Not that I think they'd go in this direction, but would it even be possible to take the streaming tech they've developed for Wii U, increase its bandwidth and reduce its latency enough to meet the requirements of a wireless VR headset? Even ignoring cost this seems hard to achieve.
Yes, wearing something is better. Consumer headsets will be fairly light and headtracking is a super non-tiresome and natural way to view.
And VR is far less limiting.
I know it was just an example, but the point is that I don't think it'd be smart to base an entire platform's capabilities around AR.
Lady Siara
Member
Ever since viewing this topic, it's kind of set my expectations as for what to expect.
AR integration seems likely, especially given Reggie's cold shoulder towards VR lately. Also curious to see how people will react to wearing glasses (if required) as that seems to be a widely cited complaint.
The Wii U controller isn't a costly component?
AR integration seems likely, especially given Reggie's cold shoulder towards VR lately. Also curious to see how people will react to wearing glasses (if required) as that seems to be a widely cited complaint.
The Wii U controller isn't a costly component?
Dagobert Duck
Member
But VR isnt social thats what Reggie complained about. What if Nintendo cracked it and has VR in a social way so everyone can interact...
Majukun
Member
the plot twist will be that not even nintendo know what NX is.,.they just dropped the name to make the investors happy but in the reality they have no idea what to do
beign serious..i don't think nintendo can "win" again..no matter what they do...they burned bridges with pretty much every demographic
beign serious..i don't think nintendo can "win" again..no matter what they do...they burned bridges with pretty much every demographic
Dagobert Duck
Member
Nah, hardcore Nintendo fans are still there
If they get the right hook they can comeback (maybe not win, cause Revoltion really was lightning in a bottle)
Majukun
Member
Nah, hardcore Nintendo fans are still there
not sure about that..at least from what I'm reading around on the various forums..after the wii u not even hardcore nintendo fans seems too keen on buying the new console day one.
also,hardcore intendo fans are not that wide of a demographic
wondermega
Member
I 100% don't expect this to be AR or VR. I like Nintendo as much as anyone but I think this stuff is way too out of range for them. Anyone who honestly thinks it might be up their alley at this point simply doesn't know what they are talking about (no offense).
And it is hard to know what AR and VR legitimately "is," because these are just buzzwords. They get people stoked, they get headines, they are the forefront of the "next big thing" for a little while now and the other big guys have expressed (and shown) interest and execution in those fields. So it seems like there would be some potential that Nintendo would want to throw their hat into that ring as well.
But VR - well I am sure they are still pretty stung from Virtual Boy, yes it's been many years since those days, but they've proven that if they would attempt something like that, they'd do it cheap. These days "cheap" means how Sony will attempt it, and I don't think Nintendo has the brainpower or experience to approach from that angle, given how they always operate. Not impossible, but they are usually the trailblazer for that sort of thing, not the follower (even if Morpheus is still far from released).
And AR - well, they had a couple little novel games at the 3DS launch, they were neat, but that was the end of that. I've seen a couple other little offerings here and there but nothing of note otherwise. I can't recall if there was a single utilization of AR on the WiiU gamepad, I am digging but can't think of anything. Anyway all of that points me to believe that they are very inexperienced with the tech and they've dismissed it. Sure, they could have been building something in secret all along, not impossible - but it seems crazy to think they wouldn't have tested the waters a bit here and there with their two already-released-for-years AR-enabled devices! Yeah, just because they *didn't* might not mean anything, and for plenty of reasons I could understand. It still seems fairly dodgy to me.
Anyway I am very eager to see what NX is all about. I don't think I had much interest in the WiiU prior to it's announcement (given Nintendo's recent console history, it didn't fill me with high expectations). I do tend to think after the severe spanking they've got this past gen, that they will do something a lot more discerning and conscientious. Still something crazy, potentially..
Anyway to wrap-up I'd LOVE to see an Nintendo AR (or VR) device, selfishly - I think it'd be a great toy and they'd doubtless have some amazing offerings for it. I work in AR for a few years now and from my POV the gameplay potential is incredible despite what the haters say. Who knows, maybe they will pull a rabbit out of the hat - I am skeptical though. I honestly think a tablet or even just a phone is going to continue to be a more than capable AR machine for some years to come yet, just wait and see..
And it is hard to know what AR and VR legitimately "is," because these are just buzzwords. They get people stoked, they get headines, they are the forefront of the "next big thing" for a little while now and the other big guys have expressed (and shown) interest and execution in those fields. So it seems like there would be some potential that Nintendo would want to throw their hat into that ring as well.
But VR - well I am sure they are still pretty stung from Virtual Boy, yes it's been many years since those days, but they've proven that if they would attempt something like that, they'd do it cheap. These days "cheap" means how Sony will attempt it, and I don't think Nintendo has the brainpower or experience to approach from that angle, given how they always operate. Not impossible, but they are usually the trailblazer for that sort of thing, not the follower (even if Morpheus is still far from released).
And AR - well, they had a couple little novel games at the 3DS launch, they were neat, but that was the end of that. I've seen a couple other little offerings here and there but nothing of note otherwise. I can't recall if there was a single utilization of AR on the WiiU gamepad, I am digging but can't think of anything. Anyway all of that points me to believe that they are very inexperienced with the tech and they've dismissed it. Sure, they could have been building something in secret all along, not impossible - but it seems crazy to think they wouldn't have tested the waters a bit here and there with their two already-released-for-years AR-enabled devices! Yeah, just because they *didn't* might not mean anything, and for plenty of reasons I could understand. It still seems fairly dodgy to me.
Anyway I am very eager to see what NX is all about. I don't think I had much interest in the WiiU prior to it's announcement (given Nintendo's recent console history, it didn't fill me with high expectations). I do tend to think after the severe spanking they've got this past gen, that they will do something a lot more discerning and conscientious. Still something crazy, potentially..
Anyway to wrap-up I'd LOVE to see an Nintendo AR (or VR) device, selfishly - I think it'd be a great toy and they'd doubtless have some amazing offerings for it. I work in AR for a few years now and from my POV the gameplay potential is incredible despite what the haters say. Who knows, maybe they will pull a rabbit out of the hat - I am skeptical though. I honestly think a tablet or even just a phone is going to continue to be a more than capable AR machine for some years to come yet, just wait and see..
Neff
Member
Can't wait to feel like a fried egg.
I've no doubt that they will, but AR/VR doesn't need to be costly, and if it's ever going to become a mass-market phenomenon, it can't be.
This is for their Quality-of-Life platform, unrelated to their dedicated gaming efforts.
You tell me.
wowowo.. that's something else entirely there...
That strategy would make sense foe Nintendo but.. it wouldn't make sense at all for what they've been saying about having two systems with more compatibility and easy ports etc.. Cause that would mean games for the NX would be super dedicaced for it. It would even be hard to port other console games. Like.. That DQXI announce would make no sense.
That strategy would make sense foe Nintendo but.. it wouldn't make sense at all for what they've been saying about having two systems with more compatibility and easy ports etc.. Cause that would mean games for the NX would be super dedicaced for it. It would even be hard to port other console games. Like.. That DQXI announce would make no sense.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Said time and again, unless Nintendo is doing a total 180, their hardware approach is the very opposite of that which allows VR. You need power spilling out the ass, and a resolution far beyond what you'd normally require to drive good VR/AR. Nonsense speculation really, no basis for it.
Hell, AR requires even more mad investment and money waste than VR. Just look at HoloLens. That shits gonna be $1000+, you think you can $150 that? Good fuckin luck.
Hell, AR requires even more mad investment and money waste than VR. Just look at HoloLens. That shits gonna be $1000+, you think you can $150 that? Good fuckin luck.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It's only fun if Nintendo does it!
AR is not VR.
Or you know they can build AR upon 3D which they have exprience with.
One thing to consider is that AR is a feature that could be universal across console, handheld and mobile. Many on GAF have speculated that future of Nintendo is a cross platform eco system.
I'm on the fence about AR being a big feature of NX. On one hand I think it could be really fun and charming and it feels very Nintendo. The vehement dismissal of VR by Reggie and Miyamoto always seems like a preemptive strike to knock it down before Nintendo unveils their "something." (Although I wonder if even Reggie knows what NX is right now).
I'm on the fence about AR being a big feature of NX. On one hand I think it could be really fun and charming and it feels very Nintendo. The vehement dismissal of VR by Reggie and Miyamoto always seems like a preemptive strike to knock it down before Nintendo unveils their "something." (Although I wonder if even Reggie knows what NX is right now).
That is a terrible priority.Just like the speculation that op posted.
Simbabbad
Member
This.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Yep, definitely think / hope this is dead wrong.
Am I the only one that remembers all the bad press the completely optional 3D effect in the 3DS caused? This would be that x 1000.
Am I the only one that remembers all the bad press the completely optional 3D effect in the 3DS caused? This would be that x 1000.
paragonpro
Banned
I'm worried it might be too much to hope for no gimmicks, I would love just a game console with a standard controller, that had equal guts to the ps4 or Xbox one.
KillerIsJed
Member
Reggie on VR E3 2015:
"We have knowledge of the technical space, and we've been experimenting with this for a long, long time," said Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime. "What we believe is that, in order for this technology to move forward, you need to make it fun and you need to make it social."
"I haven't walked the floor, so I can't say in terms of what's on the floor today, but at least based on what I've seen to date, it's not fun, and it's not social. It's just tech."
Source: Polygon
So...maybe VR?
"We have knowledge of the technical space, and we've been experimenting with this for a long, long time," said Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime. "What we believe is that, in order for this technology to move forward, you need to make it fun and you need to make it social."
"I haven't walked the floor, so I can't say in terms of what's on the floor today, but at least based on what I've seen to date, it's not fun, and it's not social. It's just tech."
Source: Polygon
So...maybe VR?
Reggie has next to zero input on Nintendo's hardware decisions so..
this, Miyamoto on the other hand said something along the lines that VR as it is right now is not on Nintendo's plans because it alienates players in the living room, so some kind of holo lens/AR technology seems more likely than VR right now
pinkurocket
Member
I think I read similar speculation in a Gamefaqs thread.
This just seems like popular technological buzzwords sewn together without having actual background info on Nintendo other than the headlines (going mobile etc).
This just seems like popular technological buzzwords sewn together without having actual background info on Nintendo other than the headlines (going mobile etc).
Interceptor
Banned
Short answer:
vs.
Long answer:
No. Exactly the opposite from everything they are trying to achieve.
vs.
Long answer:
No. Exactly the opposite from everything they are trying to achieve.