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RE4 coming to 360?(rumour)

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ninge said:
you really lost me with this one shog... so let me try and get it straugh.

it seems to be that you are saying:

the wii controls are inferior due to the wiimotes ability to act as a proper pointer which makes extremely fast and precise selection of targets in the game possible

whereas a standard pad is better because it doesnt allow you to make fast and precise selections of targets

and finally that somehow using an aiming system that is accurate means that the game was dumbed down? cal me old fashioned but if i've got a gun in my hand i tend to point it at stuff and pull the trigger, not use a little thumbstick to move where its aiming. Clearly i must be living in backwards world tho.
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I think what he meant is that it's not a pointer anymore it's a big cursor with a big area of effect. Kind of like that PC console FPSs comparison funny drawing they had on the Shadowrun threads.
 
cvxfreak said:
How would Capcom achieve a cursor that moves that quickly on the screen while requiring you to adjust Leon's field of view occasionally? Dual-analog?

RE4 Wii Edition isn't just a change in the controls but a change in the overall dynamic of the aiming system. It's literally faster to aim from one side to the other than the old scheme.
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My biggest problem with RE4's aiming wasn't the speed of which I can aim the gun from one end to another, but that the laser sight only worked on targets and not the environment. So I had situations where I was struggling to get the laser cursor to show up on the enemies because I lost the orientation of the aim in the environment traversing from one enemy at one side of the screen to another on the other side of the screen.

It looks like the Wii scheme is that the cross hair cursor is on at all times on the screen so that you NEVER lose where your aim is pointing too.
 
C4Lukins said:
It looks like Nintendo really nailed their demographic by going with simplicity for the Wii
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Demographic?
I've been playing RE games since day one, what demographic are you talking about?
25 years old Resident Evil fans??
And you do know that the PC version didn't used the mouse, till a patch was later released..right?... that was the whole point of Alkaliine's post.


Redbeard said:
Well this thread really isn't about the Wii or waggle, is it? It's more annoying seeing nfans come out of the woodwork just to throw out how superior they think waggle control is.
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The thing is that most of this "nfans" are "Resident Evil fans" too..and have already discussed the fact that most prefer the new set-up compared to the traditional one..

If anything..
A 360 port is to give 360 owners a tease of what to expect in RE5.
 
syllogism said:
25" SDTV, I see now
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See what? I can't even tell what point your trying to make, aside from damage controlling the ugly PC version.

Believe me, if the PC version was the best, I would be all over it. But it's not. It's ugly.
 
cjelly said:
And so another thread on GAF turns to shit.
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Thank Phoenix Fang for it. :(


cvxfreak said:
How would Capcom achieve a cursor that moves that quickly on the screen while requiring you to adjust Leon's field of view occasionally? Dual-analog?

RE4 Wii Edition isn't just a change in the controls but a change in the overall dynamic of the aiming system. It's literally faster to aim from one side to the other than the old scheme.
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Sounds great. I can't wait to play it. (next week!) I really miss your old avatar, though.
 
Shogmaster said:
My biggest problem with RE4's aiming wasn't the speed of which I can aim the gun from one end to another, but that the laser sight only worked on targets and not the environment. So I had situations where I was struggling to get the laser cursor to show up on the enemies because I lost the orientation of the aim in the environment traversing from one enemy at one side of the screen to another on the other side of the screen.

It looks like the Wii scheme is that the cross hair cursor is on at all times on the screen so that you NEVER lose where your aim is pointing too.
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Of course. I don't think many people understood what you were trying to say. Imagine playing Halo but the crosshair only appears on targets when you've got a bead on them. Would make aiming 10x harder.

I haven't played RE4 Wii but that's my impression from seeing it in action. Light gun style aiming just seems like it would break the game unless enemy speed and/or amount of enemies was upped dramatically.
 
Shogmaster said:
Did you ever bother to think that this is maybe due to the change in the aim cursor scheme and not the controller change? Going from a laser sight that hardly gives you good indication of where your aim is at all times to a magic cross hair that gives you constant update of your aim... Hmm.... I wonder why your combos improved....

If anything, Capcom dumbed down the cursor scheme to deal with the wiggly and fidgety nature of the waggle.
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i refuse to believe you played RE4 with the wii
 
ninge said:
you really lost me with this one shog... so let me try and get it straight.

it seems to me that you are saying:

1. the wii controls are inferior due to the wiimotes ability to act as a proper pointer which makes extremely fast and precise selection of targets in the game possible

2. whereas a standard pad is better because it doesnt allow you to make fast and precise selections of targets

and 3. that somehow using an aiming system that is accurate means that the game was dumbed down? cal me old fashioned but if i've got a gun in my hand i tend to point it at stuff and pull the trigger, not use a little thumbstick to move where its aiming. Clearly i must be living in backwards world tho.
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Well, the fact that he could get 100 when he could only break 30 using the pad, points to...yes? I dunno...the game was already easy as sin, to begin with, even on pro. When you bring in a pc like control system to a game, without balancing the enemies, and making changes to accommodate the change in control, it leaves the game kind of broken, and dumbed down in a sense. I think thats what he was getting at.
 
marvelharvey said:
You really have you panties in a twist over this.
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If you think so my friend, I'm not the one who was flaming people over my preference of a controller. All you have to do is look over to the Nintendo fanboys to see who has their panties twisted :D

That I'm shit at games
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It's ok we can't all be good at everything.
 
Draft said:
Of course. I don't think many people understood what you were trying to say. Imagine playing Halo but the crosshair only appears on targets when you've got a bead on them. Would make aiming 10x harder.

I haven't played RE4 Wii but that's my impression from seeing it in action. Light gun style aiming just seems like it would break the game unless enemy speed and/or amount of enemies was upped dramatically.
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That's exactly what Capcom have done, there are way more enemies than before and there are more "running" Ganados and there are more that have the las plagas coming out of their head and I can still make mincemeat out of all the enemies like never before!
 
heliosRAzi said:
I see that someone hasn't played RE4Wii yet
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Nope, just the Gamecube version which I loved. I was not talking about which version of the game was superior, but how many of you choose to respond to peoples arguements with :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :D :D:lol :D :lol :lol afhjlakluhwfhjkqweafkljfFAKLJ
 
Shogmaster said:
My biggest problem with RE4's aiming wasn't the speed of which I can aim the gun from one end to another, but that the laser sight only worked on targets and not the environment. So I had situations where I was struggling to get the laser cursor to show up on the enemies because I lost the orientation of the aim in the environment traversing from one enemy at one side of the screen to another on the other side of the screen.

It looks like the Wii scheme is that the cross hair cursor is on at all times on the screen so that you NEVER lose where your aim is pointing too.
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I see what you mean. The Wii reticule actually turns red and the controller slightly rumbles whenever you aim at anything (object, ganado) that can be shot.

Still, the Wii remote simply affords, at the very least, a more natural feel. I don't think it would be possible to use the reticule system with a gamepad. Just imagine using the C-Stick to while holding R, and adjusting Leon's point of view at the same time, and then you have to let go of the C-Stick and press A to finally shoot before using the C-Stick to aim at the next enemy. The Wii Remote makes this particular scheme possible, I think.

If you want an improved red laser, then that's another story, but I still think it wouldn't be nearly as fun.
Draft said:
Of course. I don't think many people understood what you were trying to say. Imagine playing Halo but the crosshair only appears on targets when you've got a bead on them. Would make aiming 10x harder.

I haven't played RE4 Wii but that's my impression from seeing it in action. Light gun style aiming just seems like it would break the game unless enemy speed and/or amount of enemies was upped dramatically.
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I've seen three responses to the RE4 Wii controls:

1. People love it after playing it, even though they expected to.
2. People love it after expecting it to be inferior.
3. People hate it for godawful reasons (Eurogamer, James Mielke).

That's my observation at least. The Wii controls are still worth a try, I think.
 
Leon's jacket from the supposed 360 screenshot looks like this hi-res jacket mod from FCMaxi from this forum:
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_4_PC/index.php?showtopic=293

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Here's another pcmod: hi-res hair:

LeonHiRes.png
 
Only a blind man cant see wiimote RE4 is definetely the best version gameplay wise.......just yesterday tried playing with the GC controer.......lets just say its the wii controls shit on the traditional ones........this thread should just be locked.....
 
Shogmaster said:
JEBUS, don't make me buy this game yet again.... VERY TEMPTING!!! MY PC SUCKS DAMNIT!!!
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I wouldn't bother with the PC version. It's a PS2 port so its high resolution is offset by the gimped PS2 architecture.

Then again, it's only $20...
 
Bluemercury said:
Only a blind man cant see wiimote RE4 is definetely the best version gameplay wise.......just yesterday tried playing with the GC controer.......lets just say its the wii controls shit on the traditional ones........this thread should just be locked.....
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I am not going to argue about the wiimote (Busy doing that in another thread), but it should be known that the GC controller is probably the worst I have ever had to use with a shooter....that probably added to the suckiness of your experience.

The controls of this game on 360 would be twice as good as it was on GC.
 
Shogmaster said:
JEBUS, don't make me buy this game yet again.... VERY TEMPTING!!! MY PC SUCKS DAMNIT!!!
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The jacket and a few gun mods aside, there aren't any comprehensive texture pack mods so it's not worth it. The best looking version regardless.
 
segarr said:
I am not going to argue about the wiimote (Busy doing that in another thread), but it should be known that the GC controller is probably the worst I have ever had to use with a shooter....that probably added to the suckiness of your experience.

The controls of this game on 360 would be twice as good as it was on GC.
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That can't be. The PS2 controls were actually worse than the GC's. (less responsive movement during aiming)

Likewise, people using the Classic Controller don't seem to think it's better than the Wii Remote either.
 
cvxfreak said:
I wouldn't bother with the PC version. It's a PS2 port so its high resolution is offset by the gimped PS2 architecture.

Then again, it's only $20...
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Thanks for saving me $20. *temptation subsiding*
 
tribal24 said:
doesnt the pc version have a patch for better graphics? i remember seeing screens like these awhile ago
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Yep, c_k_i_t3 just confirmed this is 100% fake. Might as well lock this topic as jeux-france is making shit up and people are just bitching about RE4 Wii.
 
Fake. Fake. Fake. Fake. Fake.

The rumor is based on a "picture floating around the net", which looks like a shopped screenshot of the PC version. If Capcom announces RE4 for the 360 at E3 it'll be a coincidence and nothing else.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 
segarr said:
I am not going to argue about the wiimote (Busy doing that in another thread), but it should be known that the GC controller is probably the worst I have ever had to use with a shooter....that probably added to the suckiness of your experience.

The controls of this game on 360 would be twice as good as it was on GC.
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I assume you didnt play the PS2 version then......
 
Can't believe there are people saying the GCN controls are better then the Wii controls. That is just saying 360 controller is better then mouse for FPS games.

No need to hate, just go and play RE4 for Wii and enjoy your weekend/vacation etc.
 
Is this fake or not? Would suck if it was true... I purchased Resident Evil 4 Wii all like "this has got to be the last word on the game, I mean it has all the extra content, the graphics of the Gamecube edition and you can play with any control scheme you like!" If I would have known a 360 version was coming, I would have just waited.

But it seems like this is fake from reading the thread?
 
shaft said:
Can't believe there are people saying the GCN controls are better then the Wii controls. That is just saying 360 controller is better then mouse for FPS games.

No need to hate, just go and play RE4 for Wii and enjoy your weekend/vacation etc.
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so much trolls in here-_- over the past week bound to hate anything if people really wanted the game they would have been brought it not discuss about it.
 
Amir0x said:
Is this fake or not? Would suck if it was true... I purchased Resident Evil 4 Wii all like "this has got to be the last word on the game, I mean it has all the extra content, the graphics of the Gamecube edition and you can play with any control scheme you like!" If I would have known a 360 version was coming, I would have just waited.

But it seems like this is fake from reading the thread?
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At the moment it is fake.
Maybe we'll know for sure tomorrow..or something.
 
Amir0x said:
Is this fake or not? Would suck if it was true... I purchased Resident Evil 4 Wii all like "this has got to be the last word on the game, I mean it has all the extra content, the graphics of the Gamecube edition and you can play with any control scheme you like!" If I would have known a 360 version was coming, I would have just waited.

But it seems like this is fake from reading the thread?
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Post #165 proves this is FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE
Capcom is not stealing mods from forums and using them for a 360 release.
 
Amir0x said:
Is this fake or not? Would suck if it was true... I purchased Resident Evil 4 Wii all like "this has got to be the last word on the game, I mean it has all the extra content, the graphics of the Gamecube edition and you can play with any control scheme you like!" If I would have known a 360 version was coming, I would have just waited.

But it seems like this is fake from reading the thread?
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Before Capcom revealed the Wii Edition, I thought it was somewhat possible for the 360 to get a port of RE4 with an RE5 demo as the incentive. But after that version, I don't really know why Capcom would bother with the 360 now. None of this necessarily precludes a 360 version, but I still think the Wii version is the last version unless Capcom decides to do a PSP version or something.

But then again, I thought those Dreamcast ports of RE2 and RE3 would be the last ones. Instead the inferior PSone versions were ported to GameCube.

ant1532 said:
Cvx, show them. Show them the RE4 goods.
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Here you go.
 
a Master Ninja said:
Post #165 proves this is FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE
Capcom is not stealing mods from forums and using them for a 360 release.
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Ah cool. I hate feeling like I wasted my money, that'd be second to me buying a console and then a week later them dropping the price on it or something :lol
 
I would buy this a fourth time >_>

But more seriously, a 360 compilation of REmake and 2-4 to prepare for 5 would be awesome and sell like hotcakes. Who wouldn't buy 1-4 on one disc for $60?
 
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