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Receipt Checkers. Anyone else find them offensive?

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Saw one for the first time when I went to Chicago last week. It was kinda weird.

Do we even have them in Canada? I haven't encountered any of them in Ottawa but it might be different in other provinces.

Costco, best buy, future shop, electronics stores usually. Lots of places in Canada.
 
Protip: Receipt checkers at places like best buy are to stop employee theft, not customer theft.

Theyre not checking if you have a game in your pants, theyre making sure that if you bought a camera, the cashier didnt scan it as a snickers bar.

Why not just tell them no or just keep on walking?

From what I understand, you are absolutely allowed to do this at general stores.

Places like Costco, where you have a membership, no, because thats one of the membership terms.
 
You could easily get around the system if you really wanted to steal...

Simply make a purchase of an item you want to steal then go back into the store and steal a 2nd identical item. If they stop you on the way out then you have a receipt for the item.

Then simply return the first unopened item for a refund.


These systems are never really going to stop anybody who really wants to steal something. Just like locks are not going to keep somebody out of your house that really wants in.

Some places hole punch the reciept
 
I thought this thread was about people who scour the check at restaurants to figure out exactly how much they owe. Those people bother me...even though I understand why since there seems to be errors 5% of the time.

...in regards to these receipt checkers, I don't care. They aren't even looking at stuff anyways as far as I can tell. I'm positive I could sneak things out of the store regardless if I really wanted to.

I can see that from the title, now. Those people bother me, too. If I'm out with people and someone starts doing that I just take the check and pay it. What's funny is when I see people arguing over how much of the tip belongs to them.
 
I don't understand the mentality behind it. Is it supposed to ensure cashiers actually ring up everything, or prevent shoplifting?

I think a little of both....employee theft has historically been one of if not the number one source of shrink in a store...

One group they caught locally had a little method that seemed to work...

One person would buy some stuff...the other steal some stuff...both would exit at the same time with the person who bought something closer to the person checking receipts. When the alarm went off, the person with the bag paid for would raise their arms and say loudly..."I told her she did not scan that tag" and quickly hand the bag and receipt to the person at the door...the other person with the stolen product would just keep walking...

They were taking TVS....dvds...games...everything...

They finally caught them, and now all big ticket items are taken out of the store by employees...you can not walk out with anything that cost over 200 bucks...they deliver it to you car...
 
As a receipt checker, fuck you guys who are offended by us. We're just doing our jobs, which is more inventory control than "you're a criminal!". I have yet to see someone try to just run out with something, but there have been numerous times where a person buys something but then either received too many or too few of that item. At that point I make sure they know this and will direct them back to a salesperson. Or, there are times when there are a lot of items on one person's sale and a salesperson just forgot to ring up one of the items. It happens. Also, we check serial numbers on everything that has one to make sure they're correct, in case the customer has to return it or there's some sort of customer service issue the manufacturer has to deal with.
 
You could easily get around the system if you really wanted to steal...

Simply make a purchase of an item you want to steal then go back into the store and steal a 2nd identical item. If they stop you on the way out then you have a receipt for the item.

Then simply return the first unopened item for a refund.


These systems are never really going to stop anybody who really wants to steal something. Just like locks are not going to keep somebody out of your house that really wants in.

wow, you could keep doing that and before you know it, you're a millionaire!
 
this is totally voluntary, you're free to leave with your purchase.


Costco/membership stores might be a different story though.

Don't get too righteous about it at your job dark_chris/SS4Gogita.
 
As a receipt checker, fuck you guys who are offended by us. We're just doing our jobs, which is more inventory control than "you're a criminal!". I have yet to see someone try to just run out with something, but there have been numerous times where a person buys something but then either received too many or too few of that item. At that point I make sure they know this and will direct them back to a salesperson. Or, there are times when there are a lot of items on one person's sale and a salesperson just forgot to ring up one of the items. It happens. Also, we check serial numbers on everything that has one to make sure they're correct, in case the customer has to return it or there's some sort of customer service issue the manufacturer has to deal with.

I think most people don't have a problem with receipt checkers but the process itself. No offence to you but if it's not a membership required store you're not checking my receipt.
 
I presume you refuse to shop in any place that has security cameras.

that's not exactly a fair comparison, non intrusive ways to deal with shrink usually aren't met with disdain by customers - the receipt checkers are far more of an annoyance. personally, I don't mind them, but I can certainly understand why someone else might
 
AFAIK you only have to have it checked in places like Costco where you pay a membership fee to shop there. Agreeing to it is part of the membership. In places like Fry's or Best Buy where anyone can walk in and shop they have no right to search your bags unless they accuse you of shoplifting.
 
As a receipt checker, fuck you guys who are offended by us. We're just doing our jobs, which is more inventory control than "you're a criminal!". I have yet to see someone try to just run out with something, but there have been numerous times where a person buys something but then either received too many or too few of that item. At that point I make sure they know this and will direct them back to a salesperson. Or, there are times when there are a lot of items on one person's sale and a salesperson just forgot to ring up one of the items. It happens. Also, we check serial numbers on everything that has one to make sure they're correct, in case the customer has to return it or there's some sort of customer service issue the manufacturer has to deal with.

Well then fuck you right back.

Nice attitude.
 
I think most people don't have a problem with receipt checkers but the process itself. No offence to you but if it's not a membership required store you're not checking my receipt.

You say that, but nobody has ever told me no when asked to check their receipt.
 
As someone that worked at a big box store doing LP and was called racist/spat on/yelled at/cursed at/complained on for checking a receipt for 3 seconds let me chime in here:

Get. The. Fuck. Over. It.

I don't know you. The store doesn't know you. If it were up to me, I wouldn't check shit. I personally don't care if you stole a 500in TV If you paid for it, great. I'm going to verify and then you can be on your merry way. But when you're dealing with a HUGE volume of customers being rung up from different places in the store and they're all heading out, it can be daunting to check everything fast enough so that no one gets irritated.

And yes, people DO try to take merchandise out the store pretending they purchased it. We're just doing our job. No harm is meant, but for stores that big with product everywhere it's just common sense to have a loss prevention crew.
 
Saw this interesting story from The Consumerist:

After work I stopped by the Walmart to pick up a TV for my girlfriend. After circling the whole store in search of the bathroom before realizing it was right next to the entrance, I made my way back to the Electronics section and picked out a TV quickly. I wanted a midsize Vizio, so I chose the 37" 1080p Eco model. I purchased the TV with my debit card at one of the rear registers about 20 feet away, and walked to the front of the store carrying the box in both hands.
I made it through the first set of doors into the front atrium of the store, but before reaching the outer doors I heard a man say "Sir?" I turned and faced Tony, the receipt checker.

Tony: May I see your receipt?
Me: No thanks!
Tony: Oh, ok.

I turned and continued walking towards to automatic doors. Tony called again, so I turned back.

Tony: No, I need to see your receipt.
Me: No thank you!
Tony: What do you mean?
Me: I mean no thanks; I'm walking to my car with my purchase.
Tony: Well, I need to see your receipt.
Me: I just purchased this TV in the back of the store. I don't need to show you a receipt.
Tony: Yes, you need to show me your receipt.
Me: Actually, state law dictates that once I pay for something, I don't need to show ownership of it. I just paid for this TV, the receipt is in my pocket, but my hands are full, and I don't feel like getting it out. I'm going to leave now, thank you.

At this point Tony has positioned himself between me and the door. As I step towards the door he places his hand on the box in my hands and lightly pushes back, preventing me from moving.

Me: You cannot prevent me from leaving the store with my purchase. Please move out of the way.
Tony: I can't just let you leave the store with a TV without checking your receipt.

At this point a woman, who has been standing with her family near some vending machine starts throwing snide comments at me such as "Just show him the receipt; it's not that hard" and "god, you don't have to be such a prick about it." This continues on for the rest of my "stay" here, but I choose to ignore her.

Me: Are you unlawfully detaining me?
Tony: I just want to need to see your receipt before you leave.
Me: I have paid for this, I have the receipt, but as I have said, state law protects my right to not need to prove ownership of something I have purchased. You cannot physically prevent me from leaving the store. I am now going to leave the store.

I try and step around Tony, but he again pushes on the box in my hands to prevent me from moving anywhere.

Me: Are you illegally detaining me?
Tony: Yeah, if that's what you want to call it. (Realizing he just said something bad) Listen, Walmart policy says that I need to check your receipt.
Me: Then Walmart's policy is in violation of Virginia state law. They should have informed you that you don'tneed to see a receipt.
Tony: (Misunderstanding me) How could they have told me already that you'd bought this?
Me: No, when Walmart trained you, they should have informed you that you can't force people to show their receipts. You can only ask.
Tony: I'm just a first-class worker, I don't know about any of that.

Now I am starting to fill like the prick the woman near us keeps calling me. This atrium has two exterior doors on opposite sides, so I turn around ready to walk towards the other door to leave, but another receipt checker has walked up at this time. I can't remember her name, so I'll refer to her as S, since I believe that's what her name started with.

S asks me what's going on, and I explain that I'd like to take my purchase to my car, but Tony is demanding me to show a receipt. S agrees with Tony that I need to show my receipt for "purchases like this". I give her the same explanation I gave Tony, that by state law, I don't need to prove ownership of something I just purchased.

Me: You are welcome to check the security tapes to verify that I just purchased this TV at one of the registers in the back, but I don't need to prove ownership.
S: You need to show your receipt before you leave the store.
Me: According to state law, I don't.
S: Well I'm sorry, sir, but that's Walmart policy.
Me: Then Walmart's policy is in violation of state law.
S: It's not that hard to show a receipt.
Me: No, it's not hard at all, but state law says I don't have to. I'm going to leave the store now.
S: No, the store manager is coming.
Me: When is the store manager coming?
S: The assistant store manager...
Me: When is the assistant store manager coming?
S: Yeah, she'll be right here.
Me: Ok.

I finally put the box on the floor. (Woman: "Now just take four fingers, put them in your pocket, take out the receipt..." I'm mentally yelling at her, but completely ignore her externally.) After waiting (what felt like) 2 minutes the assistant store manager appeared around the corner. S walked towards her, and I waved at the store manager to show I wasn't threatening nor uncomfortable with her arrival (in fact I welcomed it.) S pointed towards me and walked somewhere else, but Tony stayed behind me the whole time. I can't remember the assistant store manager's name, either, so I'll refer to her as M.

M: Hello, sir, how are you today?
Me: I'm doing fine, but I'd like to leave the store with my purchase.
M: Well, what's the problem?
Me: Tony, here, says I can't leave unless I show my receipt.
M: Do you have your receipt?
Me: Yes, but I just purchased the TV in the back of the store and had my hands full with the box, so I didn't want to take it out. Tony physically prevented me from leaving the store. Now I'm refusing to show me receipt for the principle of the matter. State law dictates that I do not need to prove ownership of something I have purchased, meaning I do not need to show a receipt.
M: Hmm. (She thinks for a bit.) Where did you buy the TV?
Me: In the back of the store.
M: (Thinks a bit more.) There are two registers in the back.
Me: *sigh* I purchased the TV at the register closest to the front of the store. There was a man checking out with his family at the register nearest the rear of the store. I paid for the TV with my debit card, and then picked up the TV myself. The cashier asked if I was going to carry it, and I said "yes, it's light." I then walked to the front of the store.
M: (Thinks a bit more, taken aback at the detailed report.) Ok, sir, it is your choice to leave the store with your purchase.
Me: Thank you.

I pick up the box, turn around, and tell Tony to "have a good night" as I exit the store.

The thing is, I bear no ill will towards the Walmart employees. They were simply not educated as to their role and lawful restrictions. I thought Walmart would have fixed this issue after all of the heat they've gotten about it over the years, but clearly this store didn't get an internal memo. The situation could have definitely gotten worse. I'm almost glad the second checker arrived, as I don't know what Tony would have done had I tried to exit the store through the other door. (He is an older gentleman, so I don't think he would have tried to tackle me, but if he had actually placed a hand on me or otherwise gotten more physical, I would have been placed in a very awkward position.)

I don't think an email to a Walmart executive will do anything. I'm open to any advice on how to inform this store's management about the situation, so that they can properly train their employees. I feel badly about my interaction with Tony and M, since the honestly believed they were doing their jobs. I feel like I should stop by and give them gift cards for performing admirably in the tough situation Walmart has put them in, but that might be received poorly.

http://consumerist.com/2011/03/calm...s-tv-and-denies-walmart-receipt-checkers.html
 
AFAIK you only have to have it checked in places like Costco where you pay a membership fee to shop there. Agreeing to it is part of the membership. In places like Fry's or Best Buy where anyone can walk in and shop they have no right to search your bags unless they accuse you of shoplifting.

And even if they do accuse you, they have to be able to prove that you stole whatever they find.
 
I'm sorry if I don't feel for you guys who don't understand why we do what we do, especially when I just explained it.

Pretty much.

I mean, I don't shop in big box stores often but I don't fucking cry when someone checks my receipt.

"Oh no, the corporate entity that purchased, shipped and stocked the 2000$ tv I'm about to buy wants to do a quick 5 second verification to ensure the right person is taking the right product out the store! How dare they!"
 
The thing I don't understand about them is that they can't legally detain anybody so nobody even has to stop but everyone does. Also, in illinois, you can't sign complaints for retail theft unless you physically see the person steal and keep eyes on them 100% of the time after you saw them steal. So even if i have something not on my receipt, good luck trying to arrest me for it. If only people knew their rights.
 
I guess this is America only?

Never seen or heard about this in Europe, only time I've seen people asked for a reciept is when they buy a TV and the cashier forgets to put a sticker/tape on it (this is pretty rare), or if they set off the alarm.
 
Wal-mart anecdote

I dunno how I feel about that. Or the post 82 above. Poor analogy but I see it similar to deciding not to tip someone (ie, not technically required). It's just courtesy to show the receipt. In my mind. It's not like it's terribly invasive or infringing.

I could be convinced otherwise I guess.
 
I used to do this a while back.

It wasn't my official position and my manager basically told me to just check people that didn't have items in bags, theirs (recyclables) or ours. I was really polite about it, so probably why people didn't mind. I would always explain the reason why I had to check and people seemed to understand. Did it so often, most people recognized me.

Did get one person that complained though and started on a rant. Luckily my manager was there and just opted to let them go.

It tended to be mostly stuff that didn't fit in plastic bags.

Walmart btw. Not sure if that's how it was suppose to be done but it's how I was told to do it.
 
I love reading first-hand experiences like the consumerist article. They always reek of so much bullshit.

I have no doubt that this event occurred. But they always write themselves so articulate that it irritates me.

"You cannot prevent me from leaving the store with my purchase. Please move out of the way."

No one talks that way in normal day-to-day conversation. Especially in Virginia.
 
Pretty much.

I mean, I don't shop in big box stores often but I don't fucking cry when someone checks my receipt.

"Oh no, the corporate entity that purchased, shipped and stocked the 2000$ tv I'm about to buy wants to do a quick 5 second verification to ensure the right person is taking the right product out the store! How dare they!"

I don't much give a shit about large items as my receipt is usually in my hand. Even single small items don't bother me, honestly I've gone to a store and purchased a DVD I don't bother bagging it and when I walk out I place the receipt over the DVD so they can at least see that I have one. I've never been checked when I do that.

The only time I ever consider it an annoyance is when I have a few bags of shit and they think they're going to look through it. I just don't have the patience for it.


Is it absolutely true that it's not mandatory and you can just walk past them with no repercussions?

No legal repercussions, but if you get the wrong guy it is possible to get a bit of hassle.
 
They only assume you're a criminal if you try to walk out the door with an item without a receipt. Get a grip.

Nope, they just assume all their customers are criminals. That's why they want to see your receipt.

I presume you refuse to shop in any place that has security cameras.

For shame. Security cameras are passive defense against criminal activity that does not directly involve me. Receipt checkers will actively try to stop you from leaving the store if you refuse to be treated like a criminal.

Big difference.
 
Ya that Tony guy was a douche

Some times you just ought to know when to quit. Sometimes doing things because of the principle of the matter is just stupid. You refusing to show your reciept isn't going to end this, it's just going to be a hassel for everyone involved and make you look like a dick.
 
The only receipt checkers I ran into are the ones that sit near the exits of BJ's. It doesn't really bother me unless it's taking them forever to get through the line. The last thing I want to deal with after going into a store and waiting in line is to have a line to LEAVE the place.

P.S. Regarding that Walmart story, I used to work at Target in Electronics, and whenever someone bought a TV, we'd put a long sticker on the seam of the TV and inform the security guys via walkie-talkie that someone bought a x'' TV and that they were leaving with it. Never had to ask for a receipt. That guy sounds like a dick for not just showing the receipt. Seriously, your hands are full so you're gonna waste 2 hours of your time being held for questioning? Some people are just douchebags, think they're king shit because they think they know the law.
 
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