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theusedversion said:
Nashville, Tennessee?
Cost of living is very cheap here.

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Love Nashville, have a good friend down there and visit about 6 times a year (I live in Louisville) very nice city with a decent amount to do, spread out, and clean. Almost took a e-commerce director position a few months ago down there, regret it immensely.

Louisville is decent as well, but Nashville is much nicer overall
 
daw840 said:
Overland Park, KS

Close enough to Kansas City to see concerts, shows, movies, etc. Far enough out to own a big house with a big yard (180k for my 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car garage, and a huge yard.)

Also, St Louis is a 4 hour drive if you ever want to go to a slightly bigger city.
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Maybe already said, but Kansas City IS the biggest city in Missouri, and that doesn't include the 150,000 people in Kansas City, Kansas.
 
Bentendo said:
Maybe already said, but Kansas City IS the biggest city in Missouri, and that doesn't include the 150,000 people in Kansas City, Kansas.
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Isn't KCK really bad right now crime wise? I know some people outside of KCMO and constantly hear about it from them
 
Tenks said:
I live in Columbus also and we hardly get concerts. They all either goto Cincinnati or Cleveland and forget about Columbus. Short North, however, is pretty baller.
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I've never really thought we lacked good concerts, but I'll acknowledge that I only go to a few a year.

And the music scene has definitely gotten better than it was when I moved to C-Bus five years ago. It seems people are finally starting to realize that Columbus has a far younger and more affluent population than Cleveland and Cincinnati. It should only improve in the coming years.
 
North Carolina, around Raleigh or Charlotte. Major airports and cities, but in a 20-30 minute drive, your practically in the farmland and country.
 
I would have to agree with Austin, Houston, or Dallas, Texas. No state income tax, very good housing costs, and the best beer ever (Shiner Bock, baby!)
 
Tenks said:
I live in Columbus also and we hardly get concerts. They all either goto Cincinnati or Cleveland and forget about Columbus. Short North, however, is pretty baller.
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Rarely have concerts go to those places, im not sure the type of music you like, but I find the LC and the Newport have tons of bands and make stops in columbus.
 
CharlieDigital said:
My sister went to UPenn in Philly and she's going back to Wharton for business school so I had a few trips to move her in and out. I also go to Philly every once in a while for various things like conferences, a few flights out of Philly airport, etc. It is certifiably a dump. But come on dude, you can't deny that the airport is a little dumpy. I'm not saying NJ is much better; anyone driving by exit 13A can attest to the foulness of it and of course we have our Jersey Shore and guidos galore. BUT STILL BETTER THAN PHILLY!!1!11
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I mean, Avalon, Ocean City, yeah they're not bad...well probably because during the summer the entire fucking mainline moves to Avalon. Still though, you can't argue that anything in NJ is better than Philadelphia.
 
Need to put in my love for Denver here.

Good size city (3 million metro). We have a bug up our ass about being bigger than we our so we put lots of $$$ into things like performing arts and sports (we have teams for all 4 major sports here). But the city is small and new enough that we don't have the real big-city problems. (traffic, crime, etc. Not that it doesn't exist here, just not as bad).

Travel in and out of Denver is great, DIA is a wonderful airport IMHO and there are direct flights to almost anywhere. The economy didn't hit Denver that hard since the economy is diversified (we leveled off mostly, but didn't recess). You can get any type of food here you want and it's generally very good.

The pepsi center, Red rocks (OMG red rocks...) Invesco field and a few other large venues get the major shows, and a number of very awesome smaller venues (Gothic, Fillmore, Ogden, Bluebird to name a few) bring it big acts in small intimate settings.

Weather is phenomenal, it's dry so the colds aren't that cold and the hots not that hot, plus we get a tone of sun and you can golf/ski in the same day.

My only complaint is no beach, but otherwise, if you can't tell, I love it here. Ask me more.
 
ToxicAdam said:
Says the guy living in Jersey ... christ on a stick. I'll take shit from Californians, but not from Jersey.
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If there's one thing that unites America (excluding New Jersey), it's the hate for New Jersey. I love it. Actually, even some New Jersians admit how badly their state sucks.
 
GodfatherX said:
Isn't KCK really bad right now crime wise? I know some people outside of KCMO and constantly hear about it from them
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Ugh, KCK and KCMO both suck. Stay in the suburbs.
 
Is the tech/IT job market still strong in Denver? It is absolutely horrid here, over saturated to the point where people with 50k worth of certifications are making $0.25 more then an 18 hired of the street.

A few years ago a friend I was working with moved there and loved it, kind of fell out of touch
 
ATF487 said:
Chicagoland. Rent is much cheaper than it is in cities in the northeast corridor, and it has a proper winter.
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What the hell northeast corridor are you referring to? The only thing NE of the city is Lake Michigan.
 
I live 40 minutes north of Columbus, Ohio but I don't think I would recommend it. It's essentially a mall with no roof. Too much retail sprawl, too many cutesy mcmansions and condos and nothing around long enough to have any character or history. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to even define what "culture" is in Columbus. It's been the beneficiary of state government funnelling millions of dollars into renovating it into a modern city .. but it's just a city without a soul.

The only area I would call unique is around High Street. Which is an extension of the old college town that Columbus used to be. Even the Arena district seems kind of bland.
 
I've lived in Austin and Chicagoland, and have been in LA for 13 years. Any of them are a good choice, with Austin being my favorite.

As for Vegas, it's nice to visit, but I would hate to live there (my father-in-law does).

DC area is a good pick too, I don't think I saw it mentioned. Seattle. New Orleans.
 
GodfatherX said:
Is the tech/IT job market still strong in Denver? It is absolutely horrid here, over saturated to the point where people with 50k worth of certifications are making $0.25 more then an 18 hired of the street.

A few years ago a friend I was working with moved there and loved it, kind of fell out of touch
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tech/IT is very strong here. Denver, boulder and the 36 corridor (the highway between them) boasts a very high concentration of startups. I'm in video games myself and my brother is in IT. Lots of major companies (IBM, qwest, comcast etc) and lots of small ones.

EDIT: Not that anyone loves comcast and qwest, just using the as examples...
 
Nerevar said:
:lol

Your criteria and your two state choices could not be more opposite from one another. Given your asking criteria you're best bet is probably some dumpy city in the midwest or something like that (Indianapolis, IN or Omaha, NE maybe)? I mean, those are technically cities that host big events and there are people who like to live there. Not that I'd personally recommend it.

I would personally recommend one of the suburbs of Boston or suburban Maryland outside of DC if you really want a big city accessible and nearby but the convenience of owning a yard. Both cities have very good commuter rail transit options for the more distant suburbs and both cities offer world-class amenities. Of course, because more people want to live near them you have to pay more for land and you have higher taxes, but that's just how things work.

Edit: as someone else pointed out, Philly too. Good public transit into and out of the city, but Philly is a bit more spread out than Boston. Probably right in line with DC though.
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Boston does have a pretty good commuter rail system, but it's really not useful for concerts. It runs really infrequently (every 2 hours) on weekends and it stops running around 11. I think a train leaves South Station at 12 on week days but it still sucks for shows. And living here is expensive, as you mentioned; not as bad as the NYC area but prices for houses in the suburbs don't drop as significantly as you'd hope, even in the shittier towns.

Most bands do come around here though, which is nice.

Phobophile said:
What the hell northeast corridor are you referring to? The only thing NE of the city is Lake Michigan.
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Read me

Or if you're too lazy, it's a term for the stretch of urbanization between DC and Boston
 
CharlieDigital said:
My sister went to UPenn in Philly and she's going back to Wharton for business school so I had a few trips to move her in and out. I also go to Philly every once in a while for various things like conferences, a few flights out of Philly airport, etc. It is certifiably a dump. But come on dude, you can't deny that the airport is a little dumpy. I'm not saying NJ is much better; anyone driving by exit 13A can attest to the foulness of it and of course we have our Jersey Shore and guidos galore. BUT STILL BETTER THAN PHILLY!!1!11
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right. like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. :lol The philly airport is just that. an airport. you're not really meant to hang out in it.

Upenn and Wharton are both in university city, smack in the middle of downtown and nowhere near the suburbs which is nowhere near where we were talking about.

there are homes worth millions with tons of privacy and massive yards 15 to 20 minutes outside of the city in neighborhoods that annihilate the jersey shore.

but the big draw to philly is that for the rare event that doesn't come here, DC and New York are an hour or so away.
 
Umm yeah, just about any decent size US city meets your criteria, which is why you just got recommended everything from Omaha to Atlanta.

Some of the cities mentioned here might be perfectly fine, but really don't stack up well at all to more desirable places. In my opinion from having lived in five states, there's a pretty strong correlation between cost of living and quality of life.
 
RiverBed said:
If you had to pick a state, which one would be the best in offering the following:

Priorities:
- Has a city or cities that are major entertainment hubs: regularly sees premiers, tours, unveilings, etc.


I am currently looking at California or Florida.
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Depending the kind of music you listen to, Florida often gets shafted in the tour department.


I agree with people on Austin being a good choice based on what you're looking for.
 
Pennsylvania. In particular the suburbs around Philadelphia.

Philadelphia is a very large city with a great nightlife and some of the best museums in the world (when the Barnes Foundation move is finished it will probably house the best modern art in the country). There are plenty of shows to be had in the theaters here, and the Philadelphia orchestra is one of the best. The sports teams are top notch. It is in between New York and DC, with easy access to both by rail. It is an hour and a half from the Jersey beaches, some of which are very nice, and it is close to Atlantic City.

Pennsylvania has a ~3% flat tax, so the taxes are very minimal, although taxes for those who work or live in Philadelphia are significantly higher due to local taxes (it's not hard to find a place to live/work outside the city at all). Cost of living is very reasonable, especially in certain area of the suburbs. Rents/housing prices are low. If you live close to New Jersey you can even hop across the river to take advantage of their cheap gasoline.

CharlieDigital said:
No. Stay far away. Far, far away from Philadelphia. The airport is a dump and so is the rest of the city.
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Also, this post is filled with ignorance about Philadelphia!
 
ToxicAdam said:
I live 40 minutes north of Columbus, Ohio but I don't think I would recommend it. It's essentially a mall with no roof. Too much retail sprawl, too many cutesy mcmansions and condos and nothing around long enough to have any character or history. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to even define what "culture" is in Columbus. It's been the beneficiary of state government funnelling millions of dollars into renovating it into a modern city .. but it's just a city without a soul.
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I can partially agree with the lack of history thing. Columbus grew much later than Cleveland or Cincinnati, so it's not as history-rich as either of those two cities. However, the presence of OSU certainly helps it out in this respect, and gives the city some history and culture that it wouldn't have otherwise. German Village adds a lot of flavor to the city, too.
 
South FL gets a lot of shit but the Ft. Lauderdale suburbs have just what you're asking for. Easy drive to the city.
 
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Pennsylvania. In particular the suburbs around Philadelphia.

Philadelphia is a very large city with a great nightlife and some of the best museums in the world (when the Barnes Foundation move is finished it will probably house the best modern art in the country). There are plenty of shows to be had in the theaters here, and the Philadelphia orchestra is one of the best. The sports teams are top notch. It is in between New York and DC, with easy access to both by rail. It is an hour and a half from the Jersey beaches, some of which are very nice, and it is close to Atlantic City.

Pennsylvania has a ~3% flat tax, so the taxes are very minimal, although taxes for those who work or live in Philadelphia are significantly higher due to local taxes (it's not hard to find a place to live/work outside the city at all). Cost of living is very reasonable, especially in certain area of the suburbs. Rents/housing prices are low. If you live close to New Jersey you can even hop across the river to take advantage of their cheap gasoline.



Also, this post is filled with ignorance about Philadelphia!
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Hey, Delaware is only half an hour away or so (from where I live). I head there everytime I make a big purchase because there's no sales tax. Also, Phillies - good, Flyers - good, 76ers - don't exist, Eagles - mediocre...plus apparently we have a football (soccer) team.
 
Manmademan said:
The philly airport is just that. an airport. you're not really meant to hang out in it.
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The argument is even dumber considering PHL has a new international terminal that is state of the art, and I believe a complete overhaul of a domestic terminal was just completed (it was under construction the last time I went through)
 
Orlando, FL

Everything around the downtown area is in driving distance by all the highways and you're in the middle of Florida which makes it possible to get to all of the State's major cities and beaches.
 
thespot84 said:
tech/IT is very strong here. Denver, boulder and the 36 corridor (the highway between them) boasts a very high concentration of startups. I'm in video games myself and my brother is in IT. Lots of major companies (IBM, qwest, comcast etc) and lots of small ones.

EDIT: Not that anyone loves comcast and qwest, just using the as examples...
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I worked for charter for nearly 3 years, I'm sure comcast can't be much worse
 
Austin, TX

Lots of music, restaurants, real estate, and cost of living is cheap.


Downside: No professional sports teams. Sports radio fucking sucks. When it's not football season, they broadcast women's volleyball games.
 
aswedc said:
The argument is even dumber considering PHL has a new international terminal that is state of the art, and I believe a complete overhaul of a domestic terminal was just completed (it was under construction the last time I went through)
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Dunno man, maybe it's just my perspective because I was taking weekly commuter flights out of EWR and BOS for 6 months (felt like I lived at the airport) and had a flight out of PHL. PHL can't compare to EWR or BOS; not that important if you don't travel that much. But like I said, as a consultant, I fly all the time.

Also, you guys are taking this way too seriously :lol
 
CharlieDigital said:
Dunno man, maybe it's just my perspective because I was taking weekly commuter flights out of EWR and BOS for 6 months (felt like I lived at the airport) and had a flight out of PHL. PHL can't compare to EWR or BOS; not that important if you don't travel that much. But like I said, as a consultant, I fly all the time.

Also, you guys are taking this way too seriously :lol
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I live 15 minutes away from PHL and I frequently fly out of JFK, newark, and ACY instead... I agree with you on Philly being a dump.
 
CharlieDigital said:
NJ also happens to be the second highest ranked state in terms of median income.
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Median Incomes of Philadelphia Suburbs
Tredyffrin: $82,258
Radnor: $86,812
Upper Merion: $65,636
Lower Merion: $86,373 (But your schools will spy on your kids)
Devon: $74,886
Swarthmore: $138,653
etc.

Like I said, the suburbs around the main line are ridiculously nice. Of course, so is Center City and the surrounding districts: Art Museum/Fairmount, Northern Liberties, Fishtown, Chinatown, Olde City, Rittenhouse Square, Logan Square, Washington Square, etc. You just won't get a back and front yard in those places. But you can get into the city via regional rail from anywhere on the main line, and the taxes and cost of living is far lower than NJ.

But the airport is a dump. I won't argue that really. I hear the new terminal is nice, but I have not seen it.
 
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
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Don't even start on that route man; if you want to talk about regional income, NJ will blow PA out of the water.

Why does anyone think that I'm advocating OP move to NJ? I've already stated Austin, TX like 3 times in this thread. Heck, that's where I want to move :lol (for basically all the same reasons as OP).
 
I'm kind of surprised no one has said Portland. I've never been there, but it's always in the top 10 when magazines do "best city ..." lists.
 
CharlieDigital said:
Don't even start on that route man; if you want to talk about regional income, NJ will blow PA out of the water.

Why does anyone think that I'm advocating OP move to NJ? I've already stated Austin, TX like 3 times in this thread. Heck, that's where I want to move :lol
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There are definitely parts of NJ that will blow PA out of the water in regional income, but they don't offer all of the other shit that the area offers, such as low taxes and cost of living.

And I don't think you're advocating for NJ, just against Philly. Personally, I don't think Austin really offers much in terms of entertainment or world premiers, especially over any cities in the North East or on the West Coast. I bet it's nice and cheap though. Not a lot of character.

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ToxicAdam said:
I'm kind of surprised no one has said Portland. I've never been there, but it's always in the top 10 when magazines do "best city ..." lists.
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It's got one of the worst unemployment rates in the country right now, and it's is far from a cheap place to live.
 
Again, northern delaware gives you all the benefit of SJ and Philly suburbs with even lower property taxes, no sales taxes, and cheaper real estate... all within commuting distance to SJ and Philly.
 
GodfatherX said:
I worked for charter for nearly 3 years, I'm sure comcast can't be much worse
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I've actually no idea what working for them is like, though the few installation techs i talk to like it. Just don't get into customer service.

Here's denver's marketing website, to continue my plug: http://www.denver.org/

So I don't appear to be TOO biased, our public transportation system needs improvement. It's happening (we're putting 800M or so into union station, the regional hub), just not fast enough for my tastes. The blog http://www.denverinfill.com is a great resource for the history of downtown and new projects. I live in highlands which is walking distance from downtown and most of the houses here have front and back yards, though certainly the farther away the bigger the plots.

And lastly, our mayor owned the worlds largest brewpub. Beat that.
 
BenThereGamer said:
New York City says no. I grew up in Texas, and while Austin is probably music capital of the South, NYC gets more. I moved here and have been concert-gasming ever since.
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It's the cities nickname.. not a statement :lol

http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/music/

It also has more to do with the fact that the city actively cultivates live music as part of our culture.

Austin City Limits fest is also as good as any outdoor mega concert in the country.. and SXSW is completely unmatched anywhere.
 
ToxicAdam said:
I live 40 minutes north of Columbus, Ohio but I don't think I would recommend it. It's essentially a mall with no roof. Too much retail sprawl, too many cutesy mcmansions and condos and nothing around long enough to have any character or history. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to even define what "culture" is in Columbus. It's been the beneficiary of state government funnelling millions of dollars into renovating it into a modern city .. but it's just a city without a soul.

The only area I would call unique is around High Street. Which is an extension of the old college town that Columbus used to be. Even the Arena district seems kind of bland.
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Well that's a pretty blanket statement that doesn't apply to all of Columbus. I will grant you Easton, Dublin and Polaris (I live in Dublin) fit this bill perfectly but there are also sprinkles of culture here and there. Downtown in German and near OSU is pretty nice and unique. Westerville near Otterbein is also very nice. However based upon what the OP wants I'm still not sure Columbus is the place for him.

Also, I love retail sprawl so Dublin fits me well.
 
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Personally, I don't think Austin really offers much in terms of entertainment or world premiers, especially over any cities in the North East or on the West Coast. I bet it's nice and cheap though. Not a lot of character.
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:lol

How many times have you been here? Austin regularly rates as one of the best cities to live in, best standards of living, etc.

Google South by Southwest and get back to me.
 
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