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[Buckethead]

well it definitely has a more appealing aesthetic than Red Steel 1. Now for the gameplay to not suck.

Really, ya think so?
If RS1 delivered on those really, really 'shopped pics... I would have been very pleased.
It wasn't just that it looked really good, it has a weird glowy style that was unique.

I do think the weird Road Warrior hybrid thing has promise though, that's fo' sho.

 

[Y2Kev]

Yeah, looking at it and how the hand sticks out, it looks similar to the other small pictures with motion blur on the sword, which are probably concept art.

The only one I know for sure is gameplay is the one with the two characters in it I think.

...:lol You almost got me, before I saw your name.

I joke not.

 

[hellclerk]

people, ALL the screens in the scan are gameplay. there are plenty of telltale signs, particularly in the shading and the geometry.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

NO multiplayer? Jesus tapdancing Christ, are there ANY FPS games on Wii with local splitscreen that aren't actually just gamecube games?

Red Steel 1

Which I think actually is the only true Wii FPS to have it. It was kinda fun if you were used to RS controls and weren't expecting to be blown away, but then again that's what most local multiplayer games are anyways I suppose.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

THWORDTHMAN-THAN, I REQUIRE YO ATHITHTANTHE IN A MATTA MOTHT TLOUBLETHOME TO ME.

A "BAKA"* "YAKUZA"† BY THE NAME OF BIRRY THE KIDDO ITH CAUTHING TLOUBLE IN MY GEISHA THALOON.

MY CUTHTOMERTH CANNOT DLINK THEIR THAKE THATHPERIRRATH. I AM COUNTING ON YOU, "GAIJIN"‡, TO THTOP THITH AND RETHTORE MY HONOR.

*Stupid
†Japanese gangster
‡Foreigner

 

[Shadowlink]

The Screens in the scans look pretty good. I can't wait to see some footage of this game.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Hrm, I wonder where the people who said MotionPlus swordplay wouldn't work are now? I think their argument went something like, you wouldn't be able to stop your swing when it impacts an enemy, or somesuch swill...

 

[MarkusRJR]

Red Steel 1

Which I think actually is the only true Wii FPS to have it. It was kinda fun if you were used to RS controls and weren't expecting to be blown away, but then again that's what most local multiplayer games are anyways I suppose.

No bots though. Local multiplayer FPS games require bots to be fun.

Spoiler

I still play Perfeck Dark for that reason alone.

 

[Black-Wind]

Hrm, I wonder where the people who said MotionPlus swordplay wouldn't work are now? I think their argument went something like, you wouldn't be able to stop your swing when it impacts an enemy, or somesuch swill...

I think it was some BS about how it's not true 1:1 because it lacks 1:1 feed back so theres noting stopping your swing or w/e.

 

[Y2Kev]

Hrm, I wonder where the people who said MotionPlus swordplay wouldn't work are now? I think their argument went something like, you wouldn't be able to stop your swing when it impacts an enemy, or somesuch swill...

shouldnt we play it first

 

[straydog1980]

dammit I can NOT FIND THOSE PICS!!!! The only one I could find showed him brandishing a sword against some other guy with a sword..... dammit.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Ubisoft thinks we're so fucking stupid. They haven't learned anything from the first game. They're implementing Motion-Plus, but how long have they known about that? Maybe a year?

I just don't buy it. They're not using blood so they can snag a T-rating and, hopefully, appeal to a wider audience, but they're being dishonest about that and trying to have us believe they care about it "distracting" us or whatever. Making it seem as if they care so much about the quality of their game, they wouldn't let something cheapen it in such a way. Please.

If you don't have blood, then don't make a game that should. Take the finishers out and focus on something else entirely, because the whole thing they're going for just contradicts itself and makes them look silly. Uncharted had blood that wasn't over-the-top, and it got a T-rating, but it also wasn't a game with ultra-violent finishers like running a guy through with a fucking Katana. It's possible to make a decent, violently-themed game that's rated T, but you have to do more than just make an M-rated cash-in and pull out the blood and language. It's the videogame equivalent of editing an R-rated horror movie to PG-13.

It never ends well.
EDIT: And I'm thinking, "neither will this."

Spoiler

I'm an expert on Wii culture and Ubisoft has betrayed everyone, repent and publicly apologize.

Or some such, someone do it better than me.

 

[EatChildren]

Looks a lot better than I expected, but I'll wait until I see it in motion before I get too excited. If it's smooth and the worlds are detailed, then it's going to look gorgeous. 60fps is great to know.

 

[rollingstart]

Hrm, I wonder where the people who said MotionPlus swordplay wouldn't work are now? I think their argument went something like, you wouldn't be able to stop your swing when it impacts an enemy, or somesuch swill...

lol yah doubters agre on e

shouldnt we play it first

BACK OFF NON-NINTHING

 

[ThatObviousUser]

shouldnt we play it first

No.

 

[Ashodin]

This looks FUCKING AWESOME!

I have been waiting for them to show off how much better they could make the franchise, and it looks like they've succeeded.

More developers need to get the fact that a clean, visually minimalistic look on the Wii makes it look fantastic.

Hopefully we can see the HUD before long.

Also, notice the shadowing? Full shadows baby!

Y2Kev - you and me are going to rule the Red Steeliverse.

 

[AceBandage]

Can't wait to see some videos of this.

 

[JaseMath]

I didn't play the first one because I drank the Kool-Aid. I will say this looks awesome from this one screen and the little that I know.

 

[pitt_norton]

Yeaaaahhhhh.... this is looking sweet. I'm in favour of this new direction.

 

[Linkup]

It all looks in-game to me. They've got a light bloom going when your are outside and a blur effect on the sword when you hold it close in front of you or swing it. Environments look a bit "open" where's the clutter? The art direction is distinct so it still looks pretty good though.

 

[Scrow]

Also, this game should totally have this guy as the lead character.

red steel 2: okami ?

 

[Kenka]

It actually looks convincing. At this stage, I want to know how fast is the action and if you feel really powerful behind the wiimote. Fast paced combats and engaging progression and story will do it for me.

 

[scitek]

red steel 2: okami ?

Red XIII

Hurr!

 

[plank]

Is Wii Motion Plus for this game?

 

[Eteric Rice]

Is Wii Motion Plus for this game?

Uh, it comes with it...

 

[plank]

Uh, it comes with it...

where dose it say that?

 

[billy.sea]

Finally saw the screens, look pretty nice. This Prince of Persia style of art look much better than the old Red Steel generic art.

 

[Black-Wind]

Doesn't this NP have alot more info about other Wii games? (Spore Hero/ ToG/ Spyborgs are all in it)

Why isn't there a official thread for this NP yet?

 

[dark10x]

Wow, that actually looks really impressive. 60 fps as well? Really?

I suppose image quality will have a huge impact on the visuals, though. Hopefully the art won't be lost among nasty jaggies, dithering, and other typical Wii problems.

 

[Father_Brain]

where dose it say that?

It doesn't, unless I missed something. But if it really does require MotionPlus, it would be very, very stupid not to have a bundle SKU.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

where dose it say that?

It doesn't, but the NP articles says it's required for the game, thus the notion it'll probably be bundled with it...

 

[Shaheed79]

Wow, that actually looks really impressive. 60 fps as well? Really?

I suppose image quality will have a huge impact on the visuals, though. Hopefully the art won't be lost among nasty jaggies, dithering, and other typical Wii problems.

Who are you?

 

[Vinci]

It doesn't, but the NP articles says it's required for the game, thus the notion it'll probably be bundled with it...

I wish this notion were applied to reality more often.

 

[Neiteio]

Wait, have screens been released? And I hear it's cel-shaded?

My pulse is quickening.

 

[Ramenman]

sorry, dp.

 

[Ramenman]

Hrm, I wonder where the people who said MotionPlus swordplay wouldn't work are now?

In the exact same place as they always were because the contrary hasn't been proven yet ?
Or has it ?

 

[Valtor]

dammit I can NOT FIND THOSE PICS!!!! The only one I could find showed him brandishing a sword against some other guy with a sword..... dammit.

edit : removed, sorry... it's not that hard to find, come on....

 

[levious]

probably should remove it

 

[AnnSwag]

I’m not very keen on cell-shading, but if the game plays well then it’s a completely moot point. Hopefully they’ll keep Red Steel’s destructible environments, they were a highlight of the game for me and made gunfights much more fun when electricity, dust and explosions were flying all over the place whenever a burst of uzi fire was haphazardly unleashed. The ‘push the nunchuck to pick up guns, reload and open doors’ controls were cool too, and the enemy squad leader and non-linear mission selection ideas had loads of unfulfilled potential. As long as they keep all RS’s good bits intact (and despite what the whingeing ‘hardcore’ like to claim, there were plenty) and sort out the bugs and messy controls, Ubi should be onto a very safe winner. No multiplayer is a disappointment, but no big deal for me - there’s always Conduit for online, at least.

http://digg.com/u12Ctf

 

[pakkit]

First West-Publisher takin the Wii really serious ?

High Voltage is comprised of around 150 employees.

 

[Vinci]

High Voltage is comprised of around 150 employees.

And sadly none seem to have the artistic chops of whoever the hell designed the lead character in this. Best wishes to them beyond that though.

 

[Neiteio]

No multiplayer? Eh.

Cel-shading is very promising, though. I'm always encouraged when Wii devs use cel-shading because hi-def or not, cel-shading looks great. I don't notice any graphical deficiencies in games when they're stylized; to this day The Wind Waker looks amazing, and it's a GameCube title. It's a solid workaround to the Wii's graphical limitations. In a better world, all Wii devs would either cel-shade or do whatever the fuck EAD Tokyo did to make Galaxy look so good. But maybe that's just me.

This game sounds promising. I was lamenting the lack of big Wii games on the horizon in another thread; if this works out it could help remedy the situation.

 

[Wii Will Rock U]

That art looks beautiful and the motion-plus talk sounds fantastic. I happened to read the latest NP at my local Border's and I can confirm after seeing the screenshots in the article that the game is absolutely fucking amazing looking. Conduit has nothing on this, SERIOUSLY. The cel-shaded style works really well and it comes off looking gorgeous.

Also, the articles confirms 60 frames per second.

I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed the original Red Steel while acknowledging that it had a TON of problems. That said though, I am super hyped for this one and if the gun controls are Conduit or Metroid level, I am all for it.

Also, because Red Steel was a launch title and a lot of people picked it up (it was the second third party Wii million seller), I feel like if any hardcore game is really going to do well, this will be the one. There is a huge install base already of people who played the original, it isn't a new IP (see MadWorld and Conduit), and if Nintendo is as behind this sequel as they were on the original, we may be in for a huge release.

Also, on a different note, how funny would it be if we get Red Steel 2, Rabbids Go Home, and Zelda Wii all this holiday season? Can you say Christmas 2006 redux?

 

[lopaz]

Graw, local multiplayer is the reason people play wii >: ( screw this and the conduit

 

[Gully State]

I feel like if any hardcore game is really going to do well, this will be the one. There is a huge install base already of people who played the original, it isn't a new IP (see MadWorld and Conduit), and if Nintendo is as behind this sequel as they were on the original, we may be in for a huge release.

Agreed, if this title turns out to be good, it'll be the true litmus test on whether or not traditional games sell on the wii.

 

[markatisu]

I wish this notion were applied to reality more often.

Due out at the holidays I would expect it to. Ubisoft has a much closer relationship with the Wii then either SEGA or EA as they supported it from launch.

Especially if its due out anytime near Nov or Dec they can get away with a bundle due to holiday shoppers spending more money (see NERF and every other Wii bundled item in 2007 and 2008)

If they don't its money left on the table imho

 

[GDGF]

I wish someone would take that NP issue and do a nice little bulleted list of all the important info. Hell paraphrase the whole thing if need be. I just wants more info.

 

[Scrubking]

Agreed, if this title turns out to be good, it'll be the true litmus test on whether or not traditional games sell on the wii.

Oh Lord.

 

[Akai]

Agreed, if this title turns out to be good, it'll be the true litmus test on whether or not traditional games sell on the wii.

So it's another test? =(

 

[Vinci]

Agreed, if this title turns out to be good, it'll be the true litmus test on whether or not traditional games sell on the wii.

Again??