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[The Broken Ska Record]

There was a reason Avengers did what they did, you had solo stories, which then converged into a mash up
AoU suffered from it bringing nothing to the table, if Civil War was Avengers 2 proper you would've had a great sequel

Thing with BvS "Dawn of Justice" feels like 4 different comic arcs clashing and you getting the "Omega" version first then you will go back and pick up the rest filler in the individual movies
Hey DC might make it work, but they seriously have to stitch the continuity in all solo films
You can't have Aquaman appear do his shit, then in the solo not show why he showed up in BvS first place
Have to stitch it like oh so that's why he came and left in a hurry...
You would have to do that to every suphero solo movie until JL part 1&2
Also stitching Suicide Squad into the mix really shows DC can't relagate it's movie to be on its own always has to be attached to something

You can have Aquaman show up and do his thing in DoJ and then in his movie show his origins, or have him undergo a character arc. Have you never heard of the Theban plays? Oedipus, Antigone, and Seven Against Thebes? Those plays were told out of order. The audience knew what happened to the characters before it happened to them. Or if you look at a more recent example, Star Wars.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Disagree. They don't need to introduce origins for every single character in this movie and I doubt they will. Not everything has to be done the marvel way.

I'm not saying that, but you want the public at large to know at least a little about the characters
Fine don't ape Marvel or necessarily have to do that route, but bringing in many heroes just cause feels more pry, but that point is now moot cause the rumor felt too much overall
I mean we have to base the info and come up with a conclusion on it
Thought it felt bloated, now I'm back to hoping it's trinity with winks to the others, where seeds are planted into the viewers as coming soon

You can have Aquaman show up and do his thing in DoJ and then in his movie show his origins, or have him undergo a character arc. Have you never heard of the Theban plays? Oedipus, Antigone, and Seven Against Thebes? Those plays were told out of order. The audience knew what happened to the characters before it happened to them. Or if you look at a more recent example, Star Wars.

That's what I'm trying to convey
Only thing is, it would be great if the solo attaches to the main stump that is DoJ and JL by showing what got them there and move forward
Not just have solo and no mention of how they reached DoJ or JL

 

[rjinaz]

Supermanhomepage, 100% trustful site with confirmed WB connections reached out and called it fake.

Should I read the "spoilers" now? Decisions...

 

[GravityInsanity]

How do we know WB is just saying that to downplay the leak?

Well, you basically have a random guy using a fake account on Reddit spoiling BvS 3 months before the movie releases? I just find that hard to believe. I'll take WB's side on this one.

Edit: I do hope the Jena Malone rumor is true.

 

[Caelus]

Should I read the "spoilers" now? Decisions...

If you go in believing them false, but some end up being true, wouldn't it be a nice surprise either way? idk

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

No they are very important but I guess I should keep my expectations of what fans on a forum think they know in check.

you should take your own advice.

except they are important.

you really think people will be lost on who Ant-Man is if they didn't see his movie? two lines is all it takes.
'who are you?"
"I'm Ant-Man, I used to be a crook but I got a second chance and now I want to help"
BOOM. done. next. Christ.

There was a reason Avengers did what they did, you had solo stories, which then converged into a mash up
AoU suffered from it bringing nothing to the table, if Civil War was Avengers 2 proper you would've had a great sequel

Thing with BvS "Dawn of Justice" feels like 4 different comic arcs clashing and you getting the "Omega" version first then you will go back and pick up the rest filler in the individual movies
Hey DC might make it work, but they seriously have to stitch the continuity in all solo films
You can't have Aquaman appear do his shit, then in the solo not show why he showed up in BvS first place
Have to stitch it like oh so that's why he came and left in a hurry...
You would have to do that to every suphero solo movie until JL part 1&2
Also stitching Suicide Squad into the mix really shows DC can't relagate it's movie to be on its own always has to be attached to something

that's not why AoU suffered. no movie ever suffers because it did or didn't have previous movies attached to it.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Should I read the "spoilers" now? Decisions...

Not worth it
Even if you read them and 1 or 2 are right, you will be let down
Also some are setup way too much, now proven false to some are let down but to others a huge relief

I'm on huge relief at the moment

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

That's what I'm trying to convey
Only thing is, it would be great if the solo attaches to the main stump that is DoJ and JL by showing what got them there and move forward
Not just have solo and no mention of how they reached DoJ or JL

But allegedly Doomsday is what brings them together. Standalone movies are for character building.

 

[Nesotenso]

i think they can get away with just introducing the other league members for quick cameos. It doesn't make for smoother storytelling ( unless Snyder can pull it off), but Warner doesn't want to go the Marvel route since that will take time.

 

[rjinaz]

If you go in believing them false, but some end up being true, wouldn't it be a nice surprise either way? idk

Not worth it
Even if you read them and 1 or 2 are right, you will be let down
Also some are setup way too much, now proven false to some are let down but to others a huge relief

I'm on huge relief at the moment

Yeah, think I'll just go on being impatiently patient.

 

[GraveRobberX]

that's not why AoU suffered. no movie ever suffers because it did or didn't have previous movies attached to it.

Movie felt empty to me
Like it could be fleshed out more

Hey that's my reasoning
AoU had its faults, could've used more backstory or laid a few of the groundwork more properly, but that's just me

 

[ryan299]

Surely one of these scoopers would've gotten the GL casting news. I just can't see that being kept hidden even if it's an unknown. We've would have at least found out the role had been casted.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Seems legit with every thing in mind.

 

[Smokey_Run]

you really think people will be lost on who Ant-Man is if they didn't see his movie? two lines is all it takes.
'who are you?"
"I'm Ant-Man, I used to be a crook but I got a second chance and now I want to help"
BOOM. done. next. Christ.

Exactly. You need a few lines of exposition and that's it. You don't need a two hour movie that tells you the same shit that can be said in a few lines. Again, I feel this stuff matters to fans, but not the general audience who is going to push the movie into $1B+ territory. They want a good, fun movie first and foremost. The rest of the shit is icing on the cake.

 

[Dominator]

Don't know if anyone mentioned but as long as TFA? That movie was like 2 hours and 15, not even that long. I expect this movie to push 3.

 

[Smokey_Run]

Don't know if anyone mentioned but as long as TFA? That movie was like 2 hours and 15, not even that long. I expect this movie to push 3.

Are IMAX movies still capped at like 2h45m or whatever it was? If so, I doubt it goes over that.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Wow... Sounds boring. Lex is basically a shoehorn for nothing... DC can finally assemble their justice League... Doomsday isn't the final act but they all sort of fight him to come together... I mean... Was this suppose to not be predictable?

 

[Gleethor]

Wow... Sounds boring. Lex is basically a shoehorn for nothing... DC can finally assemble their justice League... Doomsday isn't the final act but they all sort of fight him to come together... I mean... Was this suppose to not be predictable?

Good thing its bullshit.

 

[iamblades]

Are IMAX movies still capped at like 2h45m or whatever it was? If so, I doubt it goes over that.

In terms of actual film IMAX, yeah, 72 inch platter equals about 2h45-2h50.

As for the OP, there is no way WB is screening this thing this far in advance. I'd actually be shocked if they do any external screenings before the review screenings, it just creates too big of a risk for leaks for a blockbuster of this scale.

I don't think Disney did any test screenings at all for Star Wars, IIRC.

 

[exmachina64]

Surely one of these scoopers would've gotten the GL casting news. I just can't see that being kept hidden even if it's an unknown. We've would have at least found out the role had been casted.

That's a good point.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

Cast a complete unknown as Hal? At least Ray Fisher had Broadway. They need to relegitimize the brand after flop, not do wild experiments.

And the idea of a Green Lantern just chilling on Earth to no one's knowledge only to come out the super closet when danger arises (nevermind being completely absent from the freaking actual alien invasion -literally his job) is asinine. He should be off on some long Oa expedition or something, only to finally come to a planet completely changed from the one he left.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Cast a complete unknown as Hal? At least Ray Fisher had Broadway. They need to relegitimize the brand after flop, not do wild experiments.

And the idea of a Green Lantern just chilling on Earth to no one's knowledge only to come out the super closet when danger arises (nevermind being completely absent from the freaking actual alien invasion -literally his job) is asinine. He should be off on some long Oa expedition or something, only to finally come to a planet completely changed from the one he left.

Maybe he was off-world at that point? Maybe he wasn't even a Green Lantern yet

 

[Vice]

Wow... Sounds boring. Lex is basically a shoehorn for nothing... DC can finally assemble their justice League... Doomsday isn't the final act but they all sort of fight him to come together... I mean... Was this suppose to not be predictable?

It's a super hero film in a franchise where the next 10ish films have been announced. It's going to be predictable, at least in the same way every other film universe in the same vein has been.

Cast a complete unknown as Hal? At least Ray Fisher had Broadway. They need to relegitimize the brand after flop, not do wild experiments.

And the idea of a Green Lantern just chilling on Earth to no one's knowledge only to come out the super closet when danger arises (nevermind being completely absent from the freaking actual alien invasion -literally his job) is asinine. He should be off on some long Oa expedition or something, only to finally come to a planet completely changed from the one he left.

It's similar to his plotline from "The New Frontier" him even deciding to be a hero is a big moment for him. It's a good origin for a shared title like BvS where he only gets so much time. One of my favorite Hal Jordan origin arcs for whatever its worth. Just say he got hit ring a week/month/year after Zod and crew got to Earth.

 

[Magwik]

In terms of actual film IMAX, yeah, 72 inch platter equals about 2h45-2h50.

As for the OP, there is no way WB is screening this thing this far in advance. I'd actually be shocked if they do any external screenings before the review screenings, it just creates too big of a risk for leaks for a blockbuster of this scale.

I don't think Disney did any test screenings at all for Star Wars, IIRC.

They screened Fury Road months in advance didn't they? Anyways the basic edit of the film has been done since about March. By now everything is in place for the final cut anyways.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Good thing its bullshit.

Is it?

It's a super hero film in a franchise where the next 10ish films have been announced. It's going to be predictable, at least in the same way every other film universe in the same vein has been.

So boring then? I would have expected DC to change that formula since it's already being done in a way. Oh well.

 

[BKatastrophe]

No one wants

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Jon

. No one. He's fucking lame. Everyone wants

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Kyle

Or

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Guy

. I'd take

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Guy

.

Batman fights guys like Deathstroke for breakfast who is by the way a super soldier just like Cap but far, far more advanced.

Deathstroke jobs for his job

And Deathstroke can beat the Flash supposedly. Comics can get real stupid with "skill" characters.

No one liked that, though. NO ONE.

Anybody have a list of all of the stuff we've heard/read about this movie:

• Diana being Kryptonian
• Scoot McNairy being Jimmy/Metallo/The Flash
• Jena Malone being Babs/Carrie Kelley/Babs again
• BvS being split into two parts (also from Reddit)
• That fake script that was supposedly commissioned by WB to throw people off the trail of the movie
• The leaked synopsis that was floating around IMDB for a while (and Reddit!), and subsequently updated with stuff we'd seen in trailers/promo to make it look legit

I know there's probably a ton more.

I remember Nerdist putting out a theory (hah) that Kryptonians were actually progenitors of many ancient civilizations. Meaning Aquaman was also Kryptonian. Fucking ludicrous.

If you're Reader you best fucking tell me now.

oh damn, good thing i only highlighted the

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hal jordan drone one, which sounds lame as shit tbh

i didn't think they screened these hyped comic book films so early.

Then it's incredibly fitting.

Any word on

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Billy?

I'm guessing no.

Hug it out, bro.

I would love them to bring Strong back. They won't but one can dream.

I weep knowing that we'll never get Michael Clarke Duncan back as Killowog. Best bet is that we get Keith David or, better yet, return of Dennis Haysbert!

So does this mean

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The Flash

as well? And DC is dropping the ball by not including their TV universe.

No they aren't. It'll work out just fine for them.

Maybe he was off-world at that point? Maybe he wasn't even a Green Lantern yet

He's a damn space cop. Assuming he was a part of the Corps at the time, he was probably off-world. Guardians probably yanking him to Oa for some dumb shit. Or Sinestro being a goddamned G, putting Hal in his place.

 

[exmachina64]

I weep knowing that we'll never get Michael Clarke Duncan back as Killowog. Best bet is that we get Keith David or, better yet, return of Dennis Haysbert!

Just get Michael Chiklis and tell him to do his Thing voice.

 

[Vice]

Is it?



So boring then? I would have expected DC to change that formula since it's already being done in a way. Oh well.

Maybe. A movie can follow a familiar formula and still be great. Some of the greatest films around are very predictable and safe storywise.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Just get Michael Chiklis and tell him to do his Thing voice.

This also works

 

[FeD.nL]

I really have a hard time believing this. I'll just spoiltag it to be sure but:

Spoiler

I mean what he describes is almost exactly the same structure as the Avengers. Supes/bats have a fight (Thor/IM), Loki Lex unleashes the Hulk Doomsday, heroes come together to fight an army of chitauri drones unleashed by Loki Lex.

 

[thehypocrite]

Marvel fanboys less people than you think saw all those other movies prior to avengers likewise for SW. People care more about other things than watching movies as if they were homework.

Event movies make bank on the strength of the IP nowadays and time will tell if that's still true for this one.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

why wouldn't they just call it OS Lex

 

[Can Crusher]

LExOS and Drones sounds dumb enough to be real.

It's gonna be great.

 

[Shaanyboi]

why wouldn't they just call OS Lex

Branding?

 

[strafer]

why wouldn't they just call OS Lex

Operating System Lex?

A Unix System...

hmm..I know this.

 

[Penguin]

LExOS and Drones sounds dumb enough to be real.

It's gonna be great.

Well we know LexOS has existed since October.

 

[ArtHands]

According to this guy's account Cyborg at least doesn't really do much. But there's a minor background story that amounts to a cameo which shows that he at least becomes Cyborg. But yeah, GL, Flash, and Aquaman basically appear out of nowhere to fight in the climax. That seems like a mess.

I also don't think WB knows better. They want this movie to be Avengers without setting up for Avengers. We know for a fact all these characters are in the film already, so this makes more sense than anything else.

Basically bunch of deus ex machina.

Hopes its not true.

 

[FTF]

Quick question as I don't want to read spoilers, but did he say it was good/did he like it?

 

[Mat-triX]

Quick question as I don't want to read spoilers, but did he say it was good/did he like it?

He did say it was good...

Spoiler

but he also said he love MoS, so...

 

[Father_Brain]

Setting aside the Marvel comparisons for a sec: any way you slice it, having three characters who are barely (if at all) mentioned in the first two acts, and given no character development therein, show up and play a pivotal role in the third act - that's bad storytelling.

And no, assuming that the audience is familiar with other incarnations of said characters in other media, whether true or not, is not a substitute for actually developing these characters in the universe in which the story actually takes place. That's not how it works.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

You know I was starting to think Scott Eastwood's Character was going to be The

Spoiler

Green Arrow

in Suicide Squad but I think he's actually

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Dick Grayson now

 

[Ahasverus]

Don't know if anyone mentioned but as long as TFA? That movie was like 2 hours and 15, not even that long. I expect this movie to push 3.

The movie was confirmed to be 2:37. This is fake, people.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

The details sound plausible, but these things are always fake.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I wonder how people would react if TFA's plot leaked.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

The movie was confirmed to be 2:37. This is fake, people.

Can you link the source please?

 

[WadiumArcadium]

I wonder how people would react if TFA's plot leaked.

It leaked months before the film came out.

 

[Dali]

So they're using a white green lantern?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

It leaked months before the film came out.

It leaked 1977.

 

[Penguin]

So they're using a white green lantern?

The rumors have mostly suggested that there would be a GL Corps movie with Hal and John.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

It leaked 1977.

The plot's aren't the same though. It pulls ideas from each film in the original trilogy.

Not that it matters, it's bloody great fun.