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[Emitan]

So a platform entirely dedicated to motion controls has more motion control games than platforms who added it on 5 years later? Shocking.

 

[Cipherr]

This is, there really are no words. He must be trolling. Ill give them some credit, there are a lot of great Wii games out now. But it took a while for the library to get to where it is now. It sure as fuck didnt happen year one. Their biggest hit early this gen was Wii fucking Play. Have a seat reggie.

awesome. I knew something was up.


is this sort of thing still bannable? at very least this thread should be locked correct?

remove stick from ass, and stop backseat modding. Seriously, who cares, let the mods deal with that.

 

[Rolf NB]

I can't think of any 3rd party Wii game that I like that hasn't already been/isn't going to be ported to PS3.

Swords & Soldiers
Dead Space Extraction
Muramasa
House Of The Dead (several)
Goldeneye 007
Call Of Duty lolz

You can add No More Heroes and Little King's Story if you're into those sorts of things. I'm not, but hey. They're there/coming too.

Maybe RE4. It's on PS3 now too alright, but the Wii version still has the definitive control scheme.

Meh.

 

[WillyFive]

He has a point with Kinect and Move, but he in no way should be talking after what he has done to Nintendo of America for the past 4 years.

 

[onQ123]

He has a point with Kinect and Move, but he in no way should be talking after what he has done to Nintendo of America for the past 4 years.

you do know that the last 5 years has been the biggest 5 years in Nintendo History right?

 

[Fallout-NL]

Jesus Christ Reggie, the irony.

 

[The Technomancer]

you do know that the last 5 years has been the biggest 5 years in Nintendo History right?

How much of that was due to Reggie? Honest question. Do we think he contributed to the Wii's success in a significant manner?

 

[sixteen-bit]

I really want to try DC2

 

[Kazerei]

PR trolling is best trolling

 

[Massa]

How much of that was due to Reggie? Honest question. Do we think he contributed to the Wii's success in a significant manner?

Yes.

 

[onQ123]

How much of that was due to Reggie? Honest question. Do we think he contributed to the Wii's success in a significant manner?

couldn't tell you but I do know that in his career he has lit a few fires under the companies that he worked for.

Early career
After receiving his degree, Fils-Aime took a position with Procter & Gamble. Following that, he took a position as Senior Director of National Marketing at Pizza Hut, where he launched the Bigfoot Pizza and The Big New Yorker.
Fils-Aime has served as the Head of Marketing for Guinness in the United States and was responsible for all brands. He also worked as Chief Marketing Officer at Derby Cycle Corporation, directing sales and marketing efforts for eight brands. Fils-Aime served as Managing Director and oversaw Raleigh U.K., Derby's British operations just six months in 1999.
He then joined the world's Chinese food service leader, Panda Management Co., acting as Senior Vice President. Later, he came on board to VH1 as Senior Vice President. He was responsible for a 30% increase in ratings by refocusing the channel's content to appeal to younger viewers.

that tells me that he is really good at marketing & his big shot I'm in control attitude made Nintendo fans feel good about owning a Wii\DS whenever he came on stage at E3 or did a interview.

 

[LowEndTorque]

Well... considering the fact that the Nintendo Wii utterly embarrassed both the 360 and PS3 in hardware sales forcing both companies to play copycat and fart out their own version of motion controls, then I guess Reggie speaks from a position where he is allowed to talk shit.

*runs away*

 

[Takao]

I can't think of any 3rd party Wii game that I like that hasn't already been/isn't going to be ported to PS3.

Swords & Soldiers
Dead Space Extraction
Muramasa
House Of The Dead (several)
Goldeneye 007
Call Of Duty lolz

You can add No More Heroes and Little King's Story if you're into those sorts of things. I'm not, but hey. They're there/coming too.

Maybe RE4. It's on PS3 now too alright, but the Wii version still has the definitive control scheme.

Meh.

Little King's Story isn't coming to PS3, and NMH was already released.

 

[onQ123]

Well... considering the fact that the Nintendo Wii utterly embarrassed both the 360 and PS3 in hardware sales forcing both companies to play copycat and fart out their own version of motion controls, then I guess Reggie speaks from a position where he is allowed to talk shit.

*runs away*

I actually think that the Wii made Sony delay their Motion Control / Casual Games because Sony was already successful in that market with the PlayStation 2 , Eyetoy , Sing Star & Buzz games, but Nintendo had that market covered with the Wii, & the PS3 being so expensive they didn't want to add to that price just to try to compete with the Wii for the Casual Market when they knew that market would go for the cheaper Wii.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Totally missing the point itt.

He's right. Wii changed gaming forever and the excitement around it went on for four years, there was a lot of buzz around Kinect and Move, and that excitement didn't materialize in anything new.
A launch Wii game took the world by storm, pretty huge difference there.

Doesn't have anything to do with NOA's abysmal track record of localizations or anything of the sort.

 

[royalan]

Totally missing the point itt.

He's right. Wii changed gaming forever and the excitement around it went on for four years, there was a lot of buzz around Kinect and Move, and that excitement didn't materialize in anything new.
A launch Wii game took the world by storm, pretty huge difference there.

Doesn't have anything to do with NOA's abysmal track record of localizations or anything of the sort.

One could argue that Kinect and Move weren't trying to reinvent the wheel the same way Nintendo pretty much had to. Just implement motion controls into their already healthy gaming libraries.

 

[Para bailar La Bomba]

That's ironic from someone who refuses to localized Xenoblade,Last story and Pandora Tower.

Not to derail this thread (which admittedly isn't going anywhere) but it's not a NoA decision.

 

[KingJ2002]

that's what both platform are missing... that ONE game that people will play the system for.

Nintendo had it with Wii Sports

Microsoft & Sony tried to copy the formula but to no avail because people already had Wii Sports.

with all the potential the Kinect & Move both have... making "wiggle" and "waggle" copies of existing Wii games is a disservice to the product, their brand, and gaming in general.


i want to buy a Kinect because of the potential but games utilizing it need to bring an enhanced or revolutionary experience and not just motion control for the sake of tacking on another bullet point.

 

[donny2112]

I'm also having a hard time remembering all the games & great experiences that Wii provided in it's 1st year.

Wii Sports and proving the power of the pointer with RE4.

 

[Dash Kappei]

One could argue that Kinect and Move weren't trying to reinvent the wheel the same way Nintendo pretty much had to. Just implement motion controls into their already healthy gaming libraries.

They didn't introduce Kinect and Move to cater to their existing customers who were already enjoying and buying their Xbox and PS games, they did it because they wanted to eat at the same table where Nintendo was having an all-you-can-eat buffet all by themselves.
And they failed bringing something new and exciting into those libraries.
So, again, Fils-Aime is right,

 

[nomis]

Keep checking those boxes, Reg.

 

[walking fiend]

Well, Kinect at least seems to be selling good hardware wise, but software wise; the best selling games on the device still bomb. I would say the bomb hard actually. Dance Central 2 in the US may not bomb, but that's about it.

 

[Smash88]

Oh the Irony!

 

[tekumseh]

Hey, Reggie, if you're not speaking to say that you've reconsidered and you'll be bringing Xenoblade Chronicles and those other two games whose names I cannot recall ATM, to the US, then shut yer pie hole, because you aren't saying anything anyone in this country is interested in hearing...

 

[bigtroyjon]

Well, Kinect at least seems to be selling good hardware wise, but software wise; the best selling games on the device still bomb. I would say the bomb hard actually. Dance Central 2 in the US may not bomb, but that's about it.

KS is over 1.6 million and DC is approaching 2 million, and that is only in the US. Outside of Gears and Halo they are right there with any other HD exclusive game in US sales.

 

[walking fiend]

KS is over 1.6 million and DC is approaching 2 million, and that is only in the US. Outside of Gears and Halo they are right there with any other HD exclusive game in US sales.

1. US in not the only region.
2. They are not 'core' games, they are casual games, and you should compare them with games such as Just Dance (let alone Nintendo exclusives)

 

[Codeblue]

I can't think of any 3rd party Wii game that I like that hasn't already been/isn't going to be ported to PS3.

Swords & Soldiers
Dead Space Extraction
Muramasa
House Of The Dead (several)
Goldeneye 007
Call Of Duty lolz

You can add No More Heroes and Little King's Story if you're into those sorts of things. I'm not, but hey. They're there/coming too.

Maybe RE4. It's on PS3 now too alright, but the Wii version still has the definitive control scheme.

Meh.

Didn't the Muramasa PS3 rumor fall apart after the developer said they weren't working on it in September or was there something more recent I missed.

Also I think people who are saying this is a pot and kettle situation is wrong. The Wii had a great start and fell apart at the end. The reason this is stupid is he's comparing a peripheral to a full system with Nintendo's whole development team behind it.

 

[Kilrogg]

Everyone has been slow at providing (great motion-controlled) games.

 

[mclem]

Given the context of his statement, you can't really bring up Xenoblade; it doesn't really *use* motion controls at all.

 

[BGBW]

To be fair, Nintendo set the bar pretty high with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6maUGWwyT6A

So high that even they've struggled to match it.

 

[Alx]

Uh....

While you technically are correct, I don't really think a consumer who jumped into a 360 because of Kinect would be terribly interested in the 360's vanilla library.

The "360's vanilla library" is more than shooters, and there is a lot of choice in general. Especially on the XBLA, with a wide choice of small and funny games, that will go well with all the similar kinect games.

 

[[Nintex]]

I get the feeling that Reggie is going to be ousted or jumps ship soon. I kinda expected him to move on after the 3DS launch but I'll be surprised if he's going to be there when the Wii U launches. He did a pretty bad job at making titles like Brain Training a hit in the US(compared to Europe) and in his latest interviews and public showings he comes out as an ass. He also sucks at convincing the western third parties to work with Nintendo. Especially with quotes like: "Why don't we get Assassins Creed, I don't get it", "Online? That box is checked" and his latest and greatest "Why don't you own a 3DS? What's wrong with you?".

 

[Indyana]

I actually think that the Wii made Sony delay their Motion Control / Casual Games because Sony was already successful in that market with the PlayStation 2 , Eyetoy , Sing Star & Buzz games, but Nintendo had that market covered with the Wii, & the PS3 being so expensive they didn't want to add to that price just to try to compete with the Wii for the Casual Market when they knew that market would go for the cheaper Wii.

Yeah, they delayed their launch to a point in the future where the console cost the same amount than a year before. And they "delayed" the Singstar and Buzz launch too. Sure.

 

[Dead Man]

you do know that the last 5 years has been the biggest 5 years in Nintendo History right?

Oh dear. You seem to have missed what was actually being discussed in the thread. It is not Nintendo's overall financial performance.

couldn't tell you but I do know that in his career he has lit a few fires under the companies that he worked for.





that tells me that he is really good at marketing & his big shot I'm in control attitude made Nintendo fans feel good about owning a Wii\DS whenever he came on stage at E3 or did a interview.

Wow. So, his previous positions show he makes people feel good about owning something? That's your argument?

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

Well it did take nintendo 5 years to make Skyward Sword, and that needed an add-on too so........

 

[Jomjom]

Oh dear. You seem to have missed what was actually being discussed in the thread. It is not Nintendo's overall financial performance.

Oh you didn't know? That's how we judge quality now. See the SNES? Not as financially successful as the Wii, obviously the SNES was crap.

 

[Dead Man]

Oh you didn't know? That's how we judge quality now. See the SNES? Not as financially successful as the Wii, obviously the SNES was crap.

Oh, my mistake

 

[PinkCrayon]

Did I miss all of Nintendo's "great game experiences" on the Wii? Was I asleep or something?

 

[Coxy]

you do know that the last 5 years has been the biggest 5 years in Nintendo History right?

you realize this year they had their biggest loss in 30 years? and their stock today has dropped to what it was in 1992? It's not what this topic is about but your point is still terrible

 

[Riposte]

I can't be the only one who thinks Child of Eden sucks on the Kinect. Why wouldn't you play it with a controller?

onQ123's list almost seems like a joke. Forza 4's Kinect functionality is basically unnoticeable and ignorable. And Fruit Ninja?

 

[fabricated backlash]

I like Reggie, but why does he say things like this? Not only is it inaccurate, and not only is it hypocritical given the Wii's year-long drought (finally halted by Kirby and SS) and the fact Nintendo itself is going traditional again with WiiU, but it impresses no one, and will drive no one to buy a Wii that hasn't already.

Why does Sony keep talking about the Playstation Ecosystem, why does Microsoft keep talking about the imaginary value added to XboxLive Gold?

It's Executive PR bullshit.

 

[Dead Man]

Why does Sony keep talking about the Playstation Ecosystem, why does Microsoft keep talking about the imaginary value added to XboxLive Gold?

It's Executive PR bullshit.

At least they are talking UP their OWN system though.

 

[Mockingbird]

Shut up Reggie! How about the practically non-existant Wii games from Nintendo from Mid February - Late October?

 

[BGBW]

Well Reggie, by impressions, it only took five years for Nintendo to get motion controls right in an actual game worth playing with Skyward Sword.

You obviously never played Disaster Day of Crisis... fufufufufufufu

Motion plus should also have been in the launch system

Some things are nice in theory but in practise not always possible.

Did I miss all of Nintendo's "great game experiences" on the Wii? Was I asleep or something?

You're not the only one. Most of the media has been asleep as well. They are apparently suffering from the Tetris Effect and can only see FPSs before their eyes.

 

[onQ123]

Oh dear. You seem to have missed what was actually being discussed in the thread. It is not Nintendo's overall financial performance.


Wow. So, his previous positions show he makes people feel good about owning something? That's your argument?

you really know how to take things out of context don't you?

 

[Hero]

Reggie is pretty much speaking the truth here but the lack of Wii games due to his 'leadership' when there are plenty of JPN only games (*cough* Xenoblade *cough*) that still need to be brought over, he really shouldn't make comments like these.

 

[BGBW]

when there are plenty of JPN only games (*cough* Xenoblade *cough*).

JPN only? fufufufufufufufufu

 

[Somnid]

Did I miss all of Nintendo's "great game experiences" on the Wii? Was I asleep or something?

Probably.

Can't say I disagree with the statement despite the Wii output this year. Hell, Wii Play Motion wasn't a high bar but I can't even say I've seen the competition match that.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Well he is right, there are pretty much zero AAA Kinect/PS Move only games out there.

 

[Jhriad]

5 years later the Wii continues to be slow to provide great experiences. The dust piles that have buried Wii owner's systems should be proof of that. Go worry about the 3DS and the WiiU and leave us alone Reggie.