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Reggie Fils-Aime Sucks!
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AceBandage
Banned
Tenks said:
Heeeeey....
silverbullet1080
Banned
Because the money they bring in from those niche titles, isn't worth the cost of localizing, shipping and selling it here.olimpia84 said:
Orangepeel
Member
Haunted said:
haha i totally have that shirt, best thing I snagged from my gamestop employment back in the day, along with a few warcraft shirts heh.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Really, I'd like it if Reggie stayed the big picture guy. I like the anemic Nintendo that pushes things like Punch-Out and Chinatown Wars rather than the failing Nintendo that made a bunch of promises they couldn't keep with the Gamecube.
I'd like someone else in charge of the day to day stuff, though. Someone who is permissive about localizations, that is.
I'd like someone else in charge of the day to day stuff, though. Someone who is permissive about localizations, that is.
Woodsy said:
Undoubtedbly, but when NoA believes that they're satiating the hardcore market with titles like Mario Kart or Guitar Hero I can't help but disagree, especially when they're sitting on a library of games that could help the platform's perception at catering to larger audience of consumers.
Yes, Mario, Metroid, and Zelda can do the trick and keep fans satisfied but when you can bring more to the table to satiate the desires of these avid gamers, why not do it?
ShockingAlberto
Member
This isn't true, at least, of Disaster and Another Code.silverbullet1080 said:
Treehouse did the actual localization work on AC and Disaster was english from the start. They'd have to sell a staggeringly low number - sub 2000, I'd say - to not profit from it.
silverbullet1080 said:
Because Excitebots, Battalion Wars, Wario Land Shake It, Metroid Prime Trilogy and Sin and Punishment 2 are worth it? Nintendo doesn't market its hardcore titles anyway. Almost all are destined to bomb anyway. Hell PunchOut was destined to be dead as well but surprisingly it was well marketed, although the series has only been succesful in NA anyway.
avatar299 said:
Games do not have to be of triple A caliber to sell well. So many games on the Wii are flawed experiences anyway due to the nature of the new interface, which is fine, to me its like the NES days in that regard. However, who's to say that a 7.0 scoring game doesn't have its own merits to be worth playing? It's always better than having nothing.
Kard8p3 said:
Fatal Frame has its own brand recognition. If Tecmo redid the controls for its release and was marketed appropriately it could see decent sales. It's all about marketing ultimately, not even quality. Furthermore, the horror genre has somewhat of a home on the Wii as well.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
You just wanted a tag, didn't you?VerTiGo said:
Balb said:
Not at all... I haven't played it, but as a fan of classic point-and-click adventure gameplay it would've been a nice game to play, especially since the series has had a solid track record. Even more justified with the resurgence of older genres getting some more attention during this generation.
VerTiGo said:
True but neither Disaster or Fatal Frame are 7.0 worthy games to me. If I had to give them both a score Disaster would get a 5 and Fatal Frame would get a 6 (I think the atmosphere helps bring it up a point.) Still neither game is needed here as they be a waste of money for almost everyone.
Davey Cakes
Member
I'm pretty sure we're all better off for not getting Fatal Frame 4. From what I heard, that game was "okay at best" and suffered from control issues. In terms of horror games, I'm thinking that Silent Hill will fit the bill far better than Fatal Frame could have.
Now, games like Disaster and Trace Memory, I'd say, would've made good budget titles over here in the US.
Now, games like Disaster and Trace Memory, I'd say, would've made good budget titles over here in the US.
Kard8p3 said:
There have been plenty of GAF's own users that have had some good things to say about Disaster. Plenty of games are released that are critically panned month after month, personal review scales have no relevance when the NA market should natively be more welcoming of such software than Japan to begin with, especially seeing that there's simply a larger market of Wii owners in North America.
lordfroakie
Member
:lol
I AM JOHN!
Banned
Yes, I'm sure that Reggie is the one who decides the fate of all these games. Nevermind the fact that Nintendo is a large corporation with a ton of people in various department who are probably more hands-on with the games and deciding what gets localized, and that NCL is notoriously controlling and dictates a lot of how NoA operates because they can. It is all Reggie's fault. What a jerk!
Rash said:
Without question, Fatal Frame 4 isn't a big loss, since the horror genre is pretty well covered on the Wii, surprisingly. But it's also not unheard of for game's to be further altered as its going through the process of localization.
We're not talking about horse racing games, train simulations or any genre that won't identify with North American consumers. There's no reason to sit on a library of games that would leave hardcore Wii players more satisfied than they would be otherwise.
That's not the point VerTiGo is trying to make. He 's talking about the public as a whole, not what you think about those titles. Personaly I like Disaster a lot and I'd give it a 7.5. But that's not the point of course. People decide for themselves if a game is worth it's money.Kard8p3 said:
Apocalyptatron
Banned
Prime Blue said:
I'm a marketing guy and I don't suck (I don't think so at least).
AceBandage
Banned
Apocalyptatron said:
Not even once in college... just to experiment?
They are C if not D level games that if on any other console would be ignored. However as soon as it became clear those games weren't coming they became flawed but must have games. I wonder why?VerTiGo said:
Silent Hill looks more impressive than FF on every level, yet there seems to be more people crying for a poorly controlled featureless entree in the FF series than one of the most interesting horror games coming out this year.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Don't get the hate for this guy. NOA is really healthy right now. He's in charge of NOA. I would assume that means he's at least somewhat responsible for that.
Sure, stuff like Disaster and FF may not come over. But lets not have any illusions. Nintendo is a company. They make money. The reason they made him President of NOA was because he's good at making more money, even if it means the "hardcore" gamers have to import a few (emphasis on few) titles.
I mean, look, EBA was localized, and how did that pay off for them? Admittedly that was a larger job than something like Mother 3, but the thing about niche titles is just that; they'r e niche. They'll be played by a few people on message boards who love them, and ignored by the general populace.
(And don't let it be said that I'm just some mainstream gamer who doesn't "get it". I imported Trace Memory from Europe, and I'm considering grabbing my brother Jump Ultimate Stars for Christmas)
Sure, stuff like Disaster and FF may not come over. But lets not have any illusions. Nintendo is a company. They make money. The reason they made him President of NOA was because he's good at making more money, even if it means the "hardcore" gamers have to import a few (emphasis on few) titles.
I mean, look, EBA was localized, and how did that pay off for them? Admittedly that was a larger job than something like Mother 3, but the thing about niche titles is just that; they'r e niche. They'll be played by a few people on message boards who love them, and ignored by the general populace.
(And don't let it be said that I'm just some mainstream gamer who doesn't "get it". I imported Trace Memory from Europe, and I'm considering grabbing my brother Jump Ultimate Stars for Christmas)
Kard8p3 said:
Disaster was a decent title in my opinion. It was seriously flawed, but the over the top story, and characters were entertaining. It would have fit nicely in with the Wii's lackluster fall lineup last year.. and it's basically every late 90s American disaster movie bundled into a game.. it would have sold decently with some quality advertising.
But yeah, Disaster is one thing. Mother 3 is a whole other level of FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU. At least our boys at Starmen.net helped us out with that one.
Starwolf_UK
Member
This youtube video comes to mind. I wonder how much time the person spent going through the archives looking for Reggie saying those statements and throwing them together like that.Polari said:
AceBandage
Banned
avatar299 said:
When it comes to the Wii, sales agers are always brain dead.
avatar299 said:
Once again, why should anyone listen to any subjective critique about a game? For instance, Takt of Magic, was received better by Famitsu than Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, and it would help fill the RPG gap. It doesn't make much sense to sit on such a game, when its sales failure solely sits on the fact that Nintendo doesn't care to market its non mass market games. If Nintendo markets its hardcore games as well as bringing more overseas, they would reach more consumers .
Just to explicit about the FF/SH thingy
SH may be a better game than FF4. I only played a few minutes to the first, and a few hours to the second. But as a horror game, SH failed to scare me. The lighting was oppressive, the atmosphere sad, but the game wasn't as scary as I expected. OTOH, FF4 succeeded into make me feel in danger from the beginning, and I believe the controls are part of this feeling.
In SH, the controls feel mapped. In FF, they feel built.
SH may be a better game than FF4. I only played a few minutes to the first, and a few hours to the second. But as a horror game, SH failed to scare me. The lighting was oppressive, the atmosphere sad, but the game wasn't as scary as I expected. OTOH, FF4 succeeded into make me feel in danger from the beginning, and I believe the controls are part of this feeling.
In SH, the controls feel mapped. In FF, they feel built.
avatar299 said:
I said Metroid Prime Trilogy, not Corruption. Corruption sold modestly well but it deserved more in comparison to the quality of other releases for the platform at the time, and its brand still had some strength in the market place. Trilogy was an amazing package and was sent to die. I'm very well versed in sales age stats, especially in regards to Wii software. It seems you need to improve your reading comprehension skills.