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Reggie talks about the future of Nintendo
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soundwave05
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I wonder what would happen if they swapped Zelda to Revolution and then ported Mario Kart Arcade GP and put out Kirby GC for the GC in 2005.
Not exactly a fair trade, but I bet NOA would be happy.
Not exactly a fair trade, but I bet NOA would be happy.
soundwave05
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D3VI0US said:
They're already talking to third-parties and have been for a few months.
Everyone else is a non-factor right now.
How much did we know about the XBox 360 in terms of something an actual consumer (not a tech nerd on an internet message board) would care about this time last last year?
Not a hell of a lot.
MS didn't unveil their system/games to the public until really E3 and the MTV special and that's only six months ahead of launch.
soundwave05 said:
Talking is cheap and it's only worth so much in the face of increasingly frequent 360 and PS3 information and support announcements. Sure it's a year away from launch give or take but the 360 launches in 18 days and they all want the biggest slice of that same next gen pie regardless of what they say.
evilromero
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So no dynamic music to fit the action? Damn.Oblivion said:
soundwave05
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D3VI0US said:
Reggie says they're already discussing third-party *exclusives* with third parties that take advantage of the controller. Just because you're not seeing the information as a web gaming enthusiast, doesn't mean EA/Namco/Capcom/Sega/Activision/Konami/Square-Enix
are in the same boat as you, lol.
99.999999999999999999% of people who buy game consoles don't look at internet message boards or read IGN/GameSpot.
Press releases/support announcements are totally overblown by people on message boards.
We didn't see any actual games for the PS2 until six months before launch either (TGS 1999) and even then it was in very limited form.
Nintendo showing their games in playable form at E3 2006 is perfectly acceptable. Given the nature of the system, I would think you'd want to give people the oppurtunity to actually play the games rather than just showing video demos.
..pakbeka..
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they don't have to make it all orchestraded, as long as the non-orchestraded music doesn't sound like N64 sound samplesAniHawk said:
soundwave05
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I didn't care for Wind Waker's music, I agree that orchestral is absolutely the way to go for the Zelda series.
WordAssassin
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Haven't read the whole thread yet, but:
And before anyone jumps on me for it, I think that Zelda and the Rev will be launching near enough to each other for this to not make a problem for the person in the story wanting Zelda. "Buy a GameCube and Zelda now, OR wait a couple months and get a Revolution which'll play Zelda, and Zelda will have likely dropped in price or I get it used by then? Hmmm!"
This is broken logic. If they see Zelda for the Gamecube and they don't own a Gamecube but want Zelda, they will buy a Revolution, which plays Gamecube games.psycho_snake said:
And before anyone jumps on me for it, I think that Zelda and the Rev will be launching near enough to each other for this to not make a problem for the person in the story wanting Zelda. "Buy a GameCube and Zelda now, OR wait a couple months and get a Revolution which'll play Zelda, and Zelda will have likely dropped in price or I get it used by then? Hmmm!"
Why do people keep saying that Western developers won't give good effort on Revolution as far as using the interface goes? Some people keep saying EA, Activision & UbiSoft won't 'cos of whatever reason, but I don't think that's fair to say at this point. EA added GBA connectivity to GCN games, Activision jumped on NDS and I think had some pretty good use of the touch screen for Spider-Man and UbiSoft is the same and seems enthusiastic about Revolution too.
They want their games to sell right, so why wouldn't they jump at the chance to work games around the new interface? Some may say 'cos of the extra work/money, but thanks to Nintendo's low-spec approach I don't think publishers are going to break the bank on Revolution developement.
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They want their games to sell right, so why wouldn't they jump at the chance to work games around the new interface? Some may say 'cos of the extra work/money, but thanks to Nintendo's low-spec approach I don't think publishers are going to break the bank on Revolution developement.
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TekunoRobby
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Yeah the interview where they said that was in Nintendo Power. They expressed that they would like to and were exploring the possibilities. I think they definitely have the time to do it now.AniHawk said:
ThunderEmperor
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These ar enot my comments, but how plausable can this be as a possible rev spec, i say probably not. but since i don't know much about cpu arcitecture. who knows......
Anonymous said...
Hello!
My name is Henrik and i was an IBM employee here in Sweden. Iam here to talk about the next generation consoles, and give you closley specs on the Revolution.
As many of you know, all three consoles is based on the PowerPC CPUs architect that have been designed by IBM. However, they vary quite a bit in size. You have the functionality, and the capability wich will give a major difference in performance. At the "large, hot, powerful, exotic" end of the spectrum sits the PS3's Cell processor, with its single PowerPC Processing Element (PPE) and its seven Synergystic Processing Elements (SPE). Down at the "small, cool, less powerful, conventional" end is the Nintendo Revolution's Broadway CPU. We'll talk more below.
In between Sony's massive Cell and Nintendo's small, but efficient Broadway is the Xbox 360's Xenon. From developer testimonies, Xenon seems to represent a good compromise between radical and untested hardware innovation and conventional multicore computing.
Many wondering what kind of architecture Nintendo will chose for the new console. The Cpu is called Broadway and Nintendo is not aiming to get better architecture than the Playstation 3, but Broadway will have a difference architecture than the Xbox 360 while the performance will be very ..very close to it. Yes belive me. Xbox 360 has 3 cores, but the Games will only use 1 Core 1 with 2 threads in the future. The other cores will be used for the Gpu. The X360 Gpu is very powerful and design both with Microsoft and ATI. Thats why the Gpu needs 2 Cores. The graphics pipeline takes two cores, both threads from each, to 'fill'. That means the developer codes the for a single core for the game parts, basically everything but graphic..
Back to Broadway wich is based on the PowerPC 9700-series will be a geat CPU. For the past 4 weeks, IBM worked hard on the PowerPC 9700MP for the Mac plattform. The 9700MP is clocked to 2.5 Ghz (Thats the Mac-version). Its a Quad processor which reduce less heat. (geting closely). The good thing with the MP-version is that it can shut down one or more cores if not needed. That makes it reducing less power and less heat. And that is perfect for a console which is about 3 DVD cases high(but less cores). So yes, the answer is, Nintendo will be using the 9700MP-architecture but not exactly the same one. The Broadway will be a 2 Cores processor clocking at ~2.8 Ghz in each Core. Each core will have 4 total of threads. And each core will be equipped with each 2 MB L2 Cache. Thats 2 more threads than the Xbox 360.
Summering the facts
Based on PowerPC 9700MP
2 Cores/ 4 Threads each. 2 MB L2 each Core
~ 2.8 Ghz each Core (not the final clocks ~2.2 ~2.5 ~2.8 Ghz)
Anonymous said...
Hello!
My name is Henrik and i was an IBM employee here in Sweden. Iam here to talk about the next generation consoles, and give you closley specs on the Revolution.
As many of you know, all three consoles is based on the PowerPC CPUs architect that have been designed by IBM. However, they vary quite a bit in size. You have the functionality, and the capability wich will give a major difference in performance. At the "large, hot, powerful, exotic" end of the spectrum sits the PS3's Cell processor, with its single PowerPC Processing Element (PPE) and its seven Synergystic Processing Elements (SPE). Down at the "small, cool, less powerful, conventional" end is the Nintendo Revolution's Broadway CPU. We'll talk more below.
In between Sony's massive Cell and Nintendo's small, but efficient Broadway is the Xbox 360's Xenon. From developer testimonies, Xenon seems to represent a good compromise between radical and untested hardware innovation and conventional multicore computing.
Many wondering what kind of architecture Nintendo will chose for the new console. The Cpu is called Broadway and Nintendo is not aiming to get better architecture than the Playstation 3, but Broadway will have a difference architecture than the Xbox 360 while the performance will be very ..very close to it. Yes belive me. Xbox 360 has 3 cores, but the Games will only use 1 Core 1 with 2 threads in the future. The other cores will be used for the Gpu. The X360 Gpu is very powerful and design both with Microsoft and ATI. Thats why the Gpu needs 2 Cores. The graphics pipeline takes two cores, both threads from each, to 'fill'. That means the developer codes the for a single core for the game parts, basically everything but graphic..
Back to Broadway wich is based on the PowerPC 9700-series will be a geat CPU. For the past 4 weeks, IBM worked hard on the PowerPC 9700MP for the Mac plattform. The 9700MP is clocked to 2.5 Ghz (Thats the Mac-version). Its a Quad processor which reduce less heat. (geting closely). The good thing with the MP-version is that it can shut down one or more cores if not needed. That makes it reducing less power and less heat. And that is perfect for a console which is about 3 DVD cases high(but less cores). So yes, the answer is, Nintendo will be using the 9700MP-architecture but not exactly the same one. The Broadway will be a 2 Cores processor clocking at ~2.8 Ghz in each Core. Each core will have 4 total of threads. And each core will be equipped with each 2 MB L2 Cache. Thats 2 more threads than the Xbox 360.
Summering the facts
Based on PowerPC 9700MP
2 Cores/ 4 Threads each. 2 MB L2 each Core
~ 2.8 Ghz each Core (not the final clocks ~2.2 ~2.5 ~2.8 Ghz)
I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned all of those console numbers that Reggie cited.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/664/664495p2.html
Reggie also mentioned the earnings reports for third party publishers that have come out recently. Most of them weren't good. Everyone knows that publishers are going to keep making Halo clones, GTA clones and generic licensed crap over and over again, and as long as it sells (that is, as long as you keep buying it), they'll keep doing it.
In all seriousness, do you think Nintendo is on to something when they talk about a "revolution"? Given these stats and looking at the DS's success, they may have a better shot than Sony or Microsoft at being the market leader in five or six years.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/664/664495p2.html
Reggie said:
Reggie also mentioned the earnings reports for third party publishers that have come out recently. Most of them weren't good. Everyone knows that publishers are going to keep making Halo clones, GTA clones and generic licensed crap over and over again, and as long as it sells (that is, as long as you keep buying it), they'll keep doing it.
In all seriousness, do you think Nintendo is on to something when they talk about a "revolution"? Given these stats and looking at the DS's success, they may have a better shot than Sony or Microsoft at being the market leader in five or six years.
ThunderEmperor
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but ars article, talked about suing ppe structure not the 970 ppc structureDrGAKMAN said:
but i think rev can easily use this.
Musashi Wins! said:
Well MS seems like they are off to a good start. You should check this out. Anyone interested in the indie scene should check this out:
http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/oct2005/id20051014_827471.htm
krypt0nian
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Mrbob said:
Indeed. We're already seeing it with the last few indy LIVE ARCADE games announced.