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[Dedication Through Light]

Nintendo historically has abysmal Christmas periods, sales- and games-wise.

It's notoriously a bad sign if there's not even anything announced for the first half.

Well I hope the same thing wont happen with the 3DS...

 

[Orayn]

So many delicious import games I'll probably never play. I'll buy 50,000 copies of each one you localize, Nintendo, I swear. ;_;
But in all seriousness, I'd be overjoyed if either Xenoblade or The Last Story made it to the US. Perhaps one will be announced between now and E3?

 

[farnham]

I hate when people say this. I guess Coca-Cola doesn't sell Tab since It doesn't sell like diet coke.

Change the game to other M & u have a point.

well you might hate the fact that nintendo turned into a new casual direction

but there are just a lot more people buying their games compared to the traditional hardcore crowd.

When Nintendo can sell 2 or 3 times as much for half or less the development cost of the game there is little reason to consider the game selling worse to be the more important game.

 

[ArrrrghX]

So many delicious import games I'll probably never play. I'll buy 50,000 copies of each on you localize, Nintendo, I swear. ;_;
But in all seriousness, I'd be overjoyed if either Xenoblade or The Last Story made it to the US. Perhaps one will be announced between now and E3?

Agreed! The games I'll never get to try

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

Hey, does anyone remember Giftpia?-

Wasn't that supposed to come westward?

 

[Acquiesc3]

Last Story and Xenoblade please. I bought my Wii this year mainly for those so atleast give me those Reggie.

 

[farnham]

Hey, does anyone remember Giftpia?-

Wasn't that supposed to come westward?

its a gamecube game

 

[nckillthegrimace]

well you might hate the fact that nintendo turned into a new casual direction

but there are just a lot more people buying their games compared to the traditional hardcore crowd.

When Nintendo can sell 2 or 3 times as much for half or less the development cost of the game there is little reason to consider the game selling worse to be the more important game.

Those games sell to different audiences. While one might not sell as well as the other, it could get someone to pick up the system. For example, I wasn't going to buy the Wii for Wii Sports, but I bought one to play Mario Galaxy and Zelda. A system needs a variety of games to sell to a variety of customers, and, once the customers are there, it needs a variety of software to keep them on board. Betting on several tentpole releases is fine if they all have different audiences; merely focusing on one type of game, as you insist with a theoretical Wii Fit 3 and Wii Sports, is foolish. Diversity is good.

 

[Orayn]

You know what else would be both pleasant and (somewhat) plausible? A second wave of "New! Play Control" titles. I'd be down for some Wiimote-powered Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, or Eternal Darkness. Rehashes and re-releases, I know, but it doesn't hurt to revive some quality titles.

 

[Father_Brain]

Well I hope the same thing wont happen with the 3DS...

3DS (unless something goes horribly wrong) will actually have good third-party support, so Nintendo won't need to carry it nearly as much as they have their last three home consoles.

 

[ArrrrghX]

You know what else would be both pleasant and (somewhat) plausible? A second wave of "New! Play Control" titles. I'd be down for some Wiimote-powered Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, or Eternal Darkness. Rehashes and re-releases, I know, but it doesn't hurt to revive some quality titles.

I'm surprised we havn't sen more New Play Control as well. Both WW (wand control) and SMS (FLUDD) scream Wii remote functionality to me. I would double dip for another go at both of those

 

[camineet]

All Nintendo has is Zelda SS, DQX and maybe one or two other big games. Wii is winding down, but not like GameCube cut off at the knees. Wii's successor will arrive in late 2012 as I have been saying all along.

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

its a gamecube game

I know. But to be fair, so weren't Super Paper Mario and Donkey Kong Barrel Blast.

 

[[Nintex]]

All Nintendo has is Zelda SS, DQX and maybe one or two other big games. Wii is winding down, but not like GameCube cut off at the knees. Wii's successor will arrive in late 2012 as I have been saying all along.

Nope it got a bullet in the head.

 

[Orayn]

I'm surprised we havn't sen more New Play Control as well. Both WW (wand control) and SMS (FLUDD) scream Wii remote functionality to me. I would double dip for another go at both of those

Maybe we'll see them even later into the Wii's life cycle. Even if a new Nintendo one-ups it in a pretty big way, I imagine Nintendo will try to make sure Wii software has a "long tail," just by virtue of how many units they managed to sell. Super mega extra bonus points if the new console is HD and we get hybrid releases that take advantage of it. (Kind of like those Burger King games, or God of War 2's enhanced effects/resolution mode.)

 

[rpmurphy]

You know what else would be both pleasant and (somewhat) plausible? A second wave of "New! Play Control" titles. I'd be down for some Wiimote-powered Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, or Eternal Darkness. Rehashes and re-releases, I know, but it doesn't hurt to revive some quality titles.

Eternal Darkness probably wouldn't improve that much with motion controls since the combat was pretty lackluster. But yeah they could do that. Did the New Play Control games sell well enough though?

 

[farnham]

All Nintendo has is Zelda SS, DQX and maybe one or two other big games. Wii is winding down, but not like GameCube cut off at the knees. Wii's successor will arrive in late 2012 as I have been saying all along.

yeah but unfortunately iwata is the president of nintendo not you.

Eternal Darkness probably wouldn't improve that much with motion controls since the combat was pretty lackluster. But yeah they could do that. Did the New Play Control games sell well enough though?

NO Cutting off limbs was awesome as hell

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

All Nintendo has is Zelda SS, DQX and maybe one or two other big games. Wii is winding down, but not like GameCube cut off at the knees. Wii's successor will arrive in late 2012 as I have been saying all along.

You're right. Gamecube had a stronger lineup at this point! (2005 onwards)

 

[Kaizer]

I really do hope we get The Last Story and Xenoblade on our shores. They're pretty much the only reason I haven't sold my Wii yet since I don't care about Zelda. It's been collecting dust for months besides from the occasional play of Mario Kart.

 

[farnham]

You're right. Gamecube had a stronger lineup at this point! (2005 onwards)

GC was released in 2001 Wii in 2006

2011 is the fifth year in Wiis lifecycle its the equivalent to GCs 2006

and yeah GCs 2006 was glorious

 

[_Alkaline_]

I think Nintendo has given up the New Play Control stuff.

A shame too because I own two of them (Pikmin and Pikmin 2). Four if you include Metroid Prime Trilogy.

 

[Macstorm]

I have no reason not to believe that Xenoblade/Monado is coming. Nintendo has little else to bring, it's been on their financial report lists as recently as January, and if it hit in mid-year that would be a year from its Japanese release. No reason not to expect it.

It will be a while before The Last Story will be confirmed if it's coming, so I wouldn't be holding my breath for news on this one. Not saying it's not coming, just don't expect it quickly.

 

[Glix]

DON'T toy with me!

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

GC was released in 2001 Wii in 2006

2011 is the fifth year in Wiis lifecycle its the equivalent to GCs 2006

and yeah GCs 2006 was glorious

Ok I goofed there. My point still stands though.

Come 2006, the GCN had the following games still upcoming for release in US/EU (including those announced at E3 2006 and subsequently moved to Wii. As far as we all knew, they were still GCN games)

Zelda TP
Baten Kaitos Origins
Chibi Robo
Odama
Super Paper Mario (announced, then cancelled)
Kirby GCN (announced, then cancelled)
DK Bongo Blast (announced, then cancelled)

Wii currently has the following scheduled for release in US/EU

Zelda SS (Yep, that's it)

If we include the games that are almost certain to get an English release, it's a bit more comparable

Zelda SS
Kirby Wii (formerly Kirby GCN)
Rhythm Heaven Wii

(Note: I have not included Dragon Quest 10 since there's no chance of this game getting a release in 2011 in the US/EU)

Assuming that none of those get cancelled or moved to the next console (or heaven forbid stay Japan only), the GCN and Wii lineups are strikingly similar.

If we get lucky and see English releases of Xenoblade, Pandora's Tower and Last Story, then the Wii will have had a better fifth year. I'm not holding my breath though.

Given that almost all of Nintendo's dev studios are working on 3DS titles and already known DS/Wii titles, with the exception of EAD 4 (unaccounted for), Retro Studios (who only just finished DKCR) and Monolith (who are almost certainly working on Pandora's Tower) they can't possibly have any more Wii games in development (unless EAD 4 is working on something, but it's much more likely that they're either working on a 3DS title or a game for the next console)

Localisation of JPN titles is their only option to fill out the Wii release schedule.

 

[Father_Brain]

I have no reason not to believe that Xenoblade/Monado is coming. Nintendo has little else to bring, it's been on their financial report lists as recently as January, and if it hit in mid-year that would be a year from its Japanese release. No reason not to expect it.

I'll repeat myself: that is the same list that still lists Line Attack Heroes, whose retail release was cancelled and was downscaled into a Japanese WiiWare title, as an upcoming retail title in NA. Maybe it'll be localized, but that list isn't proof of any kind, no matter how many times NCL fails to correct it.

 

[Macstorm]

I'll repeat myself: that is the same list that still lists Line Attack Heroes, whose retail release was cancelled and was downscaled into a Japanese WiiWare title, as an upcoming retail title. Maybe it'll be localized, but that list isn't proof of any kind, no matter how many times NCL fails to correct it.

I'm not taking that listing as gospel, but it doesn't hurt that it's not been removed completely.

 

[rpmurphy]

yeah but unfortunately iwata is the president of nintendo not you.


NO Cutting off limbs was awesome as hell

Weapon variety was awesome as well, but there wasn't much variety in enemies to take full advantage of the cool combat features. Not all enemies had hackable limbs either, and others. It got boring for me.

 

[MidnightScott]

Nintendo when you mean games I hope you don't mean just Rhythm Heaven Wii. Give me Kirby and Reginleiv. I already imported Disaster & Another Code from Europe so I don't care about those anymore.

 

[Ashler]

I think Nintendo has given up the New Play Control stuff.

A shame too because I own two of them (Pikmin and Pikmin 2). Four if you include Metroid Prime Trilogy.

I think you meant five?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I think you meant five?

Prime 3 doesn't have "new play control".

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Nintendo when you mean games I hope you don't mean just Rhythm Heaven Wii. Give me Kirby and Reginleiv. I already imported Disaster & Another Code from Europe so I don't care about those anymore.

There is literally no way Kirby is not coming here.

 

[farnham]

Ok I goofed there. My point still stands though.

Come 2006, the GCN had the following games still upcoming for release in US/EU (including those announced at E3 2006 and subsequently moved to Wii. As far as we all knew, they were still GCN games)

Zelda TP
Baten Kaitos Origins
Chibi Robo
Odama
Super Paper Mario (announced, then cancelled)
Kirby GCN (announced, then cancelled)
DK Bongo Blast (announced, then cancelled)

Wii currently has the following scheduled for release in US/EU

Zelda SS (Yep, that's it)

If we include the games that are almost certain to get an English release, it's a bit more comparable

Zelda SS
Kirby Wii (formerly Kirby GCN)
Rhythm Heaven Wii

(Note: I have not included Dragon Quest 10 since there's no chance of this game getting a release in 2011 in the US/EU)

Assuming that none of those get cancelled or moved to the next console (or heaven forbid stay Japan only), the GCN and Wii lineups are strikingly similar.

If we get lucky and see English releases of Xenoblade, Pandora's Tower and Last Story, then the Wii will have had a better fifth year. I'm not holding my breath though.

Given that almost all of Nintendo's dev studios are working on 3DS titles and already known DS/Wii titles, with the exception of EAD 4 (unaccounted for), Retro Studios (who only just finished DKCR) and Monolith (who are almost certainly working on Pandora's Tower) they can't possibly have any more Wii games in development (unless EAD 4 is working on something, but it's much more likely that they're either working on a 3DS title or a game for the next console)

Localisation of JPN titles is their only option to fill out the Wii release schedule.

they look similar at this point because we dont know what nintendo will release this year at all. wait for e3 and the end of march (where they normally do a preview for their next fiscal year).

 

[∀ Narayan]

These and Earth Seeker are all I care about.

 

[Turrican3]

Localisation of JPN titles is their only option to fill out the Wii release schedule.

Or... they outsourced to a 3rd party something else (it could be anything from an existant IP to a brand new title) and are gently asking the developer to stay tight·lipped.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

they look similar at this point because we dont know what nintendo will release this year at all. wait for e3 and the end of march (where they normally do a preview for their next fiscal year).

But we already know the full list of titles they could possibly release. They can't have any more Wii games in development as they have had no development teams free in time to get their next games ready by E3 2006, with the sole exception of EAD 4 (who are almost certainly working on the next console by now)

Unless Nintendo haven't started working on making games for their next console yet (which would mean that the earliest possible release would be around March 2013. Do you really think that they're likely to wait that long?), the only games that they can release are the 3 I mentioned plus possible localisations of Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower)

They have to have dev teams working on next gen games by this point if they want to get the console out by 2012.

Or... they outsourced to a 3rd party something else (it could be anything from an existant IP to a brand new title) and are gently asking the developer to stay tight·lipped.

Ok now this is a legitimate possibility. I feel a bit stupid for not thinking of that one! Another Mario VS Sonic game is almost certain but anything is possible I guess (though the choice of possible devs is fairly limited as not many devs would be willing to work on the Wii at this point)

 

[jg4xchamp]

I hope it's a Starfox or Fzero game.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

But we already know the full list of titles they could possibly release. They can't have any more Wii games in development as they have had no development teams free in time to get their next games ready by E3 2006, with the sole exception of EAD 4 (who are almost certainly working on the next console by now)

Unless Nintendo haven't started working on making games for their next console yet (which would mean that the earliest possible release would be around March 2013. Do you really think that they're likely to wait that long?), the only games that they can release are the 3 I mentioned plus possible localisations of Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower)

They have to have dev teams working on next gen games by this point if they want to get the console out by 2012.

Ok now this is a legitimate possibility. I didn't think of that one. Another Mario VS Sonic game is almost certain...

They could easily have another Wii _____ title in the works, I cant imagine it takes that much time to make more mini game compilations, Wii Fit +More, a Mario Party or Mario sports game (since didnt Square Enix make Sports Mix?). If Nintendo has truly been "sitting" on games, then whatever they have has had to have been in development for awhile and possibly done in both JPN and the west...so stuff possible unannounced Japan?

Of course personally speaking...all but one of those are games I wouldnt get...

 

[Bear]

But we already know the full list of titles they could possibly release. They can't have any more Wii games in development as they have had no development teams free in time to get their next games ready by E3 2006, with the sole exception of EAD 4 (who are almost certainly working on the next console by now)

Unless Nintendo haven't started working on making games for their next console yet (which would mean that the earliest possible release would be around March 2013. Do you really think that they're likely to wait that long?), the only games that they can release are the 3 I mentioned plus possible localisations of Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower)

They have to have dev teams working on next gen games by this point if they want to get the console out by 2012.

They've already announced 4 games a little over a month ago (Rhythm Heaven, Pokemon, Kirby and Pandora's Tower), which are most likely coming this year, and they are confirming now that there will be more announcements before E3 (and most likely at E3 as well). We clearly do not know the full list of games they plan to release, going by Reggie's comments, and that's pretty consistent with how Nintendo has been lately.

 

[farnham]

But we already know the full list of titles they could possibly release.

so you knew about kirby epic yarn, DKCR prior to E3 2010 and about SMG2, NSMBWii and Metroid Other M prior to E3 2009 and about Wii Party prior to the investor meeting they had in march 2010 ?

 

[FoneBone]

There is literally no way Kirby is not coming here.

Yup. The games are consistently strong sellers here - I think there have been literally two projects in the entire series that haven't made it to the US (a Super Famicom version of Star Stacker that came out in 1998, and a series of Satellaview minigames a couple years before that.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

so you knew about kirby epic yarn, DKCR prior to E3 2010 and about SMG2, NSMBWii and Metroid Other M prior to E3 2009 and about Wii Party prior to the investor meeting they had in march 2010 ?

Are you wilfully ignoring the fact that all of Nintendo's internal developers are already accounted for?

Who at Nintendo is free to make another Wii game? (remember that they will also need to start development of games for the next console as well by this point)

I didn't account for the possibility of outsourced games though. Any new Wii game announcements at E3 will either be JPN localisations or outsourced games.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

But we already know the full list of titles they could possibly release. They can't have any more Wii games in development as they have had no development teams free in time to get their next games ready by E3 2006, with the sole exception of EAD 4 (who are almost certainly working on the next console by now)

EAD Group No.1 - Nintendogs+Cats and Mario Kart 3DS
EAD Group No.2 - Animal Crossing 3DS. (Star Fox 3DS?)
EAD Group No.3 - Zelda: SS and Zelda 3DS.
EAD Group No.4 - Pikmin Project. (Star Fox 3DS?)
EAD Group No.5 - (Steel Diver? Star Fox 3DS? New Game?)
EAD Tokyo Group No.1 - (Steel Diver? Star Fox 3DS? New Game?)
EAD Tokyo Group No.2 - Super Mario 3DS
SPD Group No.1 - Rhythm Tengoku Wii and ????
SDD Department - Face Raiders. 3DS Camera. 3DS internal software. AR Games.

Obviously from the information available, there is a heavy shift towards the 3DS at this moment. But the question is how much do we know. There are a couple of supposedly in-house games that we are not sure who is behind them yet. There was also that big internal boost Iwata proposed two years ago, but then again I don’t think that will increase the output as much as keep it at bay during the higher definition Nintendo generation coming soon (Wii2+3DS).

Unless Nintendo haven't started working on making games for their next console yet (which would mean that the earliest possible release would be around March 2013. Do you really think that they're likely to wait that long?), the only games that they can release are the 3 I mentioned plus possible localisations of Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower)

They have to have dev teams working on next gen games by this point if they want to get the console out by 2012.

I don’t think there is any significant next-gen software development yet. Hardware guys yes. Theoretically the first team to develop any software is SDD (Software Development Design) and some EAD Technology / Middleware guys assisting them. And these guys just finished the 3DS (internal software / launching apps / channels). They are probably roughly sketching out some things right now, but nothing close to maturity. (I think). There is always the improbable chance that some unrealized Wii project will get ported over to the next home console as soon as the hardware is ready.

Is there anything else directly from NCL brewing for the Wii besides Zelda and Rhythm Tengoku? I don’t know. I hope so. I really do.

 

[Effect]

A shame much of the gaming media has crapped on Nintendo (from dismissing things to outright pushing misinformation in reviews about controls, etc) this generation. If they hadn't then it's possible there might be stronger communication and something might have leaked about something by now. The last strong link was Matt Cass and Mark Bozon at IGN but they're gone now. I doubt Nintendo would bother talking to IGN now considering how the rest of that site views them and refers to them.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

EAD Group No.1 - Nintendogs+Cats and Mario Kart 3DS
EAD Group No.2 - Animal Crossing 3DS. (Star Fox 3DS?)
EAD Group No.3 - Zelda: SS and Zelda 3DS.
EAD Group No.4 - Pikmin Project. (Star Fox 3DS?)
EAD Group No.5 - (Steel Diver? Star Fox 3DS? New Game?)
EAD Tokyo Group No.1 - (Steel Diver? Star Fox 3DS? New Game?)
EAD Tokyo Group No.2 - Super Mario 3DS
SPD Group No.1 - Rhythm Tengoku Wii and ????
SDD Department - Face Raiders. 3DS Camera. 3DS internal software. AR Games.

Obviously from the information available, there is a heavy shift towards the 3DS at this moment. But the question is how much do we know. There are a couple of supposedly in-house games that we are not sure who is behind them yet. There was also that big internal boost Iwata proposed two years ago, but then again I don’t think that will increase the output as much as keep it at bay during the higher definition Nintendo generation coming soon (Wii2+3DS).



I don’t think there is any significant next-gen software development yet. Hardware guys yes. Theoretically the first team to develop any software is SDD (Software Development Design) and some EAD Technology / Middleware guys assisting them. And these guys just finished the 3DS (internal software / launching apps / channels). They are probably roughly sketching out some things right now, but nothing close to maturity. (I think). There is always the improbable chance that some unrealized Wii project will get ported over to the next home console as soon as the hardware is ready.

Is there anything else directly from NCL brewing for the Wii besides Zelda and Rhythm Tengoku? I don’t know. I hope so. I really do.

Well it's highly likely that EAD 5 were working on Wii Relax and EAD 4 were working on Pikmin 3, but I'd say that they've almost certainly been moved over to the next console by now considering how they've quietly forgotten about them (plus having the vitality sensor being integrated into the next console's controller would be a nice point of differentiation)

SPD 1 just finished Metroid Other M with Team Ninja not long ago (and probably supervised the Metroid Other M stuff in DOA Dimensions) so they wouldn't be ready to show anything at E3 yet.

EAD Tokyo just finished the DSiware Guidebook app not long ago and are probably working on something for 3DS Ware (they have worked on small projects only since EAD Tokyo was split into two, and they went on to make Flipnote Studio), someone's gotta make something for the service! (while we're at that, I bet that Intelligent Systems are cooking up something for the service as well, they've contributed quite a lot to DSi Ware and they're capable of working on multiple games simultaneously)

That leaves Retro Studios (only just finished DKCR, not ready to show anything for E3. Probably working on the next console or the 3DS), Monolith Soft (almost certainly working on Pandora's Tower for Wii), Camelot (only just finished Golden Sun DD, not ready to show anything for E3), Sora (Kid Icarus Uprising), Brownie Brown (unaccounted for. A dark horse for Dragon Quest 10 but could be anything really), Genius Sonority (The Pokemon typing game),HAL (Kirby Wii and Kirby DS), NST (Only just finished Mario VS DK 4, other part of the team are probably working on Classics 3D for 3DS), Ambrella (nobody gives a shit about them anyway), Skip (only just released Snowpack Park), Game Freak (if they're not working on Pokemon 3DS I'll eat my hat), Alphadream (unknown, but they're only a small team and have never made a console game) and that's that.

What have I missed? Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Any new E3 announcements must be JPN localisations or outsourced games.

If they aren't working on the next console by now, it isn't going to come out until 2013 and that seems incredibly unlikely to me.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

Maybe we'll see them even later into the Wii's life cycle. Even if a new Nintendo one-ups it in a pretty big way, I imagine Nintendo will try to make sure Wii software has a "long tail," just by virtue of how many units they managed to sell. Super mega extra bonus points if the new console is HD and we get hybrid releases that take advantage of it. (Kind of like those Burger King games, or God of War 2's enhanced effects/resolution mode.)

We are not getting New Play Control as Nintendo would rather nobody is able to buy Chibi Robo, Pikmin 2, Mario Golf or whatever than have to sell them for $20 or $30 double packs or something that is not " you pay $30 each, yeah I'm well aware we sold these games as Player's Choice on Gamecube for less. $30 each!".

Spoiler

I think the consumers voted the right way against being exploited here...shame they fell head over heels over Mario All Stars

If they're too good value they canabalise sales of other games, as suddenly the biggest threat to Twilight Princess or Mario Galaxy is a $20 Wind Waker or Sunshine something...instead the used disc-only copy fdrom Gamestop at $25 gets the sale and Nintendo can go *reggie.jpg*.

Is tragic for the games involved but to Nintendo profits are the only thing that matters, the games and stuff wouldn't exist if it wasn't for them. Going back to what was mentioned earlier I can see that being the sole reason for Remote Plus. Chepaer to distribute and produce(less parts) and offers better value to the tired consumer (they have enough remotes etc...)

Only problem is the regular remotes and MotionPlus, what to do with? Wii Party Bundling and two M+ Wii Sports resort only went so far...

Spoiler

The Remote Plus Wii Sports Resort is a long way from coming out in Ameirca or Europe isn't it...well not while regular remotes are on dusty shelves of stores

I know. But to be fair, so weren't Super Paper Mario and Donkey Kong Barrel Blast.

Difference is Giftpia actually came out on Gamecube in Japan.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

A shame much of the gaming media has crapped on Nintendo (from dismissing things to outright pushing misinformation in reviews about controls, etc) this generation. If they hadn't then it's possible there might be stronger communication and something might have leaked about something by now. The last strong link was Matt Cass and Mark Bozon at IGN but they're gone now. I doubt Nintendo would bother talking to IGN now considering how the rest of that site views them and refers to them.

and even Cass and Bozon were crapping on them on their way out too. its sad, the state of gaming news these days.

 

[Turrican3]

A shame much of the gaming media has crapped on Nintendo (from dismissing things to outright pushing misinformation in reviews about controls, etc) this generation. If they hadn't then it's possible there might be stronger communication and something might have leaked about something by now. The last strong link was Matt Cass and Mark Bozon at IGN but they're gone now.

Naaa.

Nintendo is quite well known for keeping its projects as secret as they can. I mean, I can still remember this article about a trip to Retro Studios offices, written by Matt where he stated that even the smallest detail that could somewhat have led to a leak, had been carefully erased:

As we walk down a ridiculously long hallway flanked by offices to the left and alluring hallways leading to the right, I take note of a disturbing trend. The company has actually taped off the right side of the building with warnings that read "employees only" and meanwhile, all the visible whiteboards, even the one that precedes the work space of the art teams, have not just been wiped, but probably scrubbed clean. I could've eaten off them.

Not to mention, well, NDAs: maybe he actually *knew* about Donkey Kong and was simply unable to say a syllable about it, but then my point still stands, I think.

 

[farnham]

Are you wilfully ignoring the fact that all of Nintendo's internal developers are already accounted for?

Who at Nintendo is free to make another Wii game? (remember that they will also need to start development of games for the next console as well by this point)

I didn't account for the possibility of outsourced games though. Any new Wii game announcements at E3 will either be JPN localisations or outsourced games.

thats an assumption

nobody knows what nintendos internal structure looks like right now

also outsourcing is a thing nintendo does a lot these days

 

[FoneBone]

If they aren't working on the next console by now, it isn't going to come out until 2013 and that seems incredibly unlikely to me.

Yeah. Maybe I'm just too optimistic, who knows, but with internal Wii development pretty clearly winding down, I find it hard to believe that they'd let it fester and rot for that long.

 

[Bel Marduk]

That leaves Retro Studios (only just finished DKCR, not ready to show anything for E3. Probably working on the next console or the 3DS)

Retro are working on a Wii game.

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