I thought it was soda or pop (or Coke, in the South). But I'm unfamiliar with Canada's regional preferences.
Personally, I suspect they did that because it sounds more formal, like using a person's full name.
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Personally, I suspect they did that because it sounds more formal, like using a person's full name.
Here are my most common items:
Chicken (or other meat on sale)
Oranges
Apples
Green Veggie(My favorite recently is chard)
Butter
Cilantro
Garlic
Onions
Tomatoes
Rice
Beans
Bread
Canned Veggies (Found out recently that creamed corn actually has sugar)
Frozen veggies
It's not really hard if you cook for yourself. The problem with that is time, but it is still perfectly doable, and people need to be more comfortable with that.
Simply shop the outer edges of the market and most people would be fine. Everything you shouldn't eat is down the aisles.
Nah, that usually contains fluoride, which some people are positively psycho about as well. We'd all be better off as breatharians.
echoshifting
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Many bread brands now add sugar or high fructose corn syrup, in fact.
I agree that it's easy once you get into the habit, but that's the trick, right? Getting people away from processed, boxed stuff and into whole food.
I agree that it's easy once you get into the habit, but that's the trick, right? Getting people away from processed, boxed stuff and into whole food.
infinityBCRT
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The only way to do this is to eat mainly fresh fruits and vegetables and avoid processed foods... and that really is the problem. Processed foods are awful but that has become a significant portion of a lot of people's daily diet.
jamesinclair
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The problem is how its in everything, even salty things. Even godamn dog food has sugar.
It's not that simple. Whole wheat bread and pasta also often contain large amounts of sugar to make it taste better, even more so than white bread. Gotta watch out for that stuff too.
jamesinclair
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As some of us are saying, even the "healthy" stuff has added sugar.
Try and buy bread without sugar or HFCS.
Its almost impossible. I only know of two brands without it, some of the Fresh and Easy ones (no sweetner), and Daves Killer Bread (uses fruit juice....which is also fructose)
Dreams-Visions
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won't happen.
BUT...an organized campaign has lead to the industry drastically reducing the salt and sugar contents in food over the years.
BUT...an organized campaign has lead to the industry drastically reducing the salt and sugar contents in food over the years.
You're shopping at the wrong markets.
Bread, dairy and produce should be purchased at co-ops, farmers markets, etc.
CornBurrito
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A shitload of bread has added sugar now.
Also how affordable is your list if you were on say... foodstamps?
Not everyone can afford overpriced food from Whole Foods.
echoshifting
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You can find whole wheat brands that don't add sugar, and avoiding dry, boxed pasta helps too. Further clarity: it's never easy, I'll grant you that was overstating a bit, but it's possible to at least grow accustomed to just being aware of it, and choosing the right places to do your shopping.
Technically neither pasta nor bread would be considered "whole food," though.
If you eat whole foods this does not tend to be a problem. I think the real issue is people not being taught proper cooking or eating habits, plus a desire for shrink wrapped convenience and an abuse of portion sizes.
I mentioned this in another thread, but it might be worth reposting here: I have a friend who believed replacing pop with fruit juice would help him lose weight, and would not accept that he was wrong even as he continued to gain. The biggest issue is education. People need to be taught how to eat healthily, and misinformation has to be culled.
I mentioned this in another thread, but it might be worth reposting here: I have a friend who believed replacing pop with fruit juice would help him lose weight, and would not accept that he was wrong even as he continued to gain. The biggest issue is education. People need to be taught how to eat healthily, and misinformation has to be culled.
entremet
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Man, good thing most stuff that is high in sugar (like sweets, and most chocolates) gives off a terrible after-taste for me, and I pretty much never drink soda or soft-drinks, my family also feeds me whole-foods and fresh food that usually contains no sugar whatsoever.
Bit worried that I won't keep up that diet when I move out eventually though.
Bit worried that I won't keep up that diet when I move out eventually though.
Um, I said co-ops and farmers markets. Neither are Whole Foods.
You can get produce and bread cheaper at a farmers market than you can at a large chain grocery store...
You have trouble reading brah?
Exactly. Education is key, but let's not pretend that the consequence of people being educated, and acting on that education, would be cutting out a very large portion of the processed foods people have grown up enjoying.
That's what I've done and I think it's been worth it, but there's an undeniable exchange of health for convenience.
soundahfekz
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I just want to say fuck the person who thought putting canned fruit in heavy, light or ANY syrup was a good idea.
In fact fuck canned fruit
In fact fuck canned fruit
CornBurrito
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I was giving an example.
And I've never even seen a co-op in my area. They do have a farmers market, and guess what? It is overpriced produce, just like at Whole Foods. Though just slightly cheaper than Whole Foods.
Also I have trouble seeing how it could possibly be cheaper than the produce at a large chain grocery store. The FM near me is into organic produce, which cannot be produced in nearly the same amounts as non-organic produce.
You did ask me my list from safeway, I shop at places like safeway, not whole foods. Overall eating like that is cheaper than buying premade stuff and foodstamps works fine with fresh foods. Like I said the problem is with education and time for people to live like that. I worked in a grocery store for 5 years, I saw plenty of people on assistance buying fresh food on food stamps. Also do you know that I or my family have never been dirt poor? We were on food stamps when I was a kid, my mom still didn't buy premade crap.
Good point on the bread. Perhaps I should have added tortillas, I eat those more than bread.
I do. But that isn't an option for a lot of people. It's not like there's a farmer's market in every neighbourhood.
echoshifting
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Same here. I indulge in fast food and soda from time to time, but not when eating with my kid. Not going to happen.
Perfectly affordable, even cheaper. Especially if you're talking long-term expense.
More Fun To Compute
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Just make it so that all shops that sell sweet things are guarded by bees I guess.
CornBurrito
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What about in the short term?
In my local supermarket processed food is cheaper than fresh food by a wide margin.
People should have the good sense to live within walking distance of year-round, all-seasonal, all-organic, farmers markets with bargain basement prices. I have no sympathy for anyone that doesn't.
Definitely sucks for people that don't have options and have to eat whatever they can.
My in-laws make most of their own bread, which is pretty delicious and not that tough. Just time consuming.
Mammoth Jones
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How about parents set some fucking limits?
Parent: "No, you can't have 4 gallons of mountain dew today because you're a 12 boy with bitch-tits"
Parent: "No, you can't have 4 gallons of mountain dew today because you're a 12 boy with bitch-tits"
We are talking the difference between a night and a week?
A bag of frozen veggies is like 99 cents. brown rice is the same price for a lb. Buy chicken in bulk and it'll run you like $2 a lb. It is cheaper in the short term to eat well than it is to eat processed crap that doesn't fill you up.
Eating well is not expensive, it just takes some effort.
I might be spoiled because I live in Northern California (lots of farmers), but I literally pay a fraction of the price for produce than I would in a large chain market.
Not even exaggerating, although I'm obviously only talking about fresh produce. We also have a farmers market 5 days a week in my city, and it changes locations throughout the city by the day.
SnakeswithLasers
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I am almost positive that this is sarcasm, but on GAF, I wouldn't be surprised.
I was going to post this. BEEEEEEEEEEES = Solution.
echoshifting
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It's Orayn, so I'm almost positive it wasn't.
And I kiiiiiiiinda agree ;p Not as extreme, perhaps, but it just makes good sense to at least keep your food supply options in your mind when you're thinking about making a move. It was a factor when my wife and I moved three years ago.
lunchtoast
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While this is harsh, something should be done, but more than just sugar limitations. How about an updated food pyramid, better education and getting rid of outdated food facts, plus better quality food at affordable prices. But corporations/lobbying and all that...
Mr. B Natural
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Keep drilling this into your own heads. It's working. Just gotta drill harder.
This. The food pyramid is a fucking joke. 6-11 servings a grain are you goddamn kidding me?
I remember thinking I was eating healthy when I'd have goddamned wheat thins as a kid because "it's a grain and the pyramid says I should have tons of them!". Grains belong near the top of the thing.
Analytical
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backflip10019
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They changed it to the food plate last year. It's still terrible bullshit
Yeah, this actually shows nothing. How can this expected to be an educational tool?
SnakeswithLasers
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The majority of people don't have this kind of flexibility in making a move. Those most affected by the 'fast-foodening' of diets are those who live in inner cities and are lucky to have a grocery store nearby, let alone a farmer's market. The majority of people just can't pick up and move for better food options either. Bottom line is that the government, if it is going to subsidize anything, should help get healthy, fresh vegetables into markets, not corn syrup.
I agree that it is a good thing to consider, in fact, I just made a move where I had the luxury of finding a farmer's market almost literally right outside our front door, but not everyone can find a nice job in Berkeley.
They changed it to the food plate last year. It's still terrible bullshit
This is worse. It doesn't actually give any useful info. I guess at least veggies are shown to be more important than grains?
Anyone can not eat processed crap with minimal effort. Cooking some rice, chicken, and steaming some veggies is one of the easiest things anyone can do.
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