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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Yeah, I'm not going to watch a nearly 2 hour video because a VO actor triggered the REEE crowd.
Thaedolus
Member
TERF! Get your terminology right.
CasperDarling
Member
Same can be said about Thuway, Nib95, Expy, Chubigans, and other Sony obsessed morons. Same type of people on both sides of the console war so lets not sit here and pretend one side is better then the other
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Yes.
nush
Member
"CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE ALT LEFT GET MAD ABOUT THIS!" Nothing happens.
holygeesus
Banned
Finally....
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12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
This is really an excellent comprehensive analysis of a a very complex phenomenon. Everything she says is confirmed by the very thread about it on resetera its almost poetic, but mostly quite sad after watching the vid...
Too bad for all the folks out there who desperately agree with her but don't have the intellect to analyze or articulate it the way she does, and won't be able to watch it because they are transphobic (=
I thought about making a thread about this video, but it's just not worth it. We aren't quite there yet
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Whining about it not being worth it to post a thread with more effort than posting the thread would take? That's our Gobbie.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Is this a confession or accusation?
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Jeeves
Member
Non-binary is made up. Which makes it such an easy identity to assume, because there are no rules to follow. I'm pretty sure you don't even have to change pronouns. You can just go from "he" to "he/they". Literally all you need to do is state that you're non-binary, and you shoot right up the oppression ladder almost to the top; you get the rung right under trans people. I'm not saying every non-binary is knowingly faking it, on the contrary I'm sure most of them believe the lies they're telling themselves. They just can't bring themselves to admit that it's okay to be a man or woman with a personality that isn't especially masculine or feminine.
Hell, since you apparently don't even need to experience dysphoria to be trans anymore (or else you're truscum), and you're not required to make any effort to pass as the other gender, you can just start asking people to use the other pronoun and bam, you're a bona-fide trans, and right on top of the chain at places like Resetera. You don't even need to change the way you dress. You can become full-on trans this very second, in the eyes of RE.
Not trying to undermine actual trans people or anything, but all it takes is seeing one fake trans for someone to assume that they must all be faking. That does real harm to their community, but they encourage it.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
jesus this sounds like such a shitty movie. i hear this all the time from TLJ stans "the next movie should have had Luke haunting Kylo! that would have been great"
no it wouldn't it would have killed his character a second time. first he gives his life to troll his nephew then he is cursed to spend the afterlife annoying him? sounds like hell tbh.
"is Kylo afraid of Luke?" LOL why would he be? that this loser who failed to kill him twice, to the point of killing himself the second time, will show up and fail to be a threat once more?
besides the end result would be... Kylo gets mad? wow, so amazing, a character that is primarily known for throwing temper tantrums is going to... throw more tantrums...
oh, FO officers will think he's crazy? yeah they did that in the first two movies. how is this interesting at all?
just blows my mind how they think Rian is selling them this new shit but it's the same old shit in a different colored diaper.
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those people you mentioned are a different side of the same coin.
ManaByte
Member
The difference is there was an ex-mod on this forum who in 2013 verified Thuway as a legitimate insider when he was really just spewing bullshit.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Is it just me, or have postings on Era kind of slowed down?
It feels like only 1 year ago where threads on Era in general had more activity, with a lot more different users posting comments. It also seems like over the past two years we've had a sharp increase in self requested bans as well, especially from longtime users from the old place. Without...
www.resetera.com
I guess PC era left and made their own forum? Anyone know the name of the forum?
Jeeves
Member
I think it's called Metacouncil? I don't really know what caused PC Era in particular to leave.Is it just me, or have postings on Era kind of slowed down?
It feels like only 1 year ago where threads on Era in general had more activity, with a lot more different users posting comments. It also seems like over the past two years we've had a sharp increase in self requested bans as well, especially from longtime users from the old place. Without...
I guess PC era left and made their own forum? Anyone know the name of the forum?
So just another deluded fanboy like all the others previously mentioned, mod verified or not.
reiko on old Gaf risked his account swearing the xb1 had a dual gpu till he got banned. Verified or not, still a retard.
Caffeine
Member
thuway or docgamer as he goes by either, had someone he knew working at the Microsoft campus. intially he was an insider by knowing someone, after that fact he started making shit up. here was a podcast he was on 7 years ago. http://videogamewarzone.libsyn.com/video-game-warzone-190
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
AFAIK it was the consolidation of the steam thread into the PC gaming store thread, fiascos around the new arrival of the Epic Store, and a mod/admin? powertripping that disgusted a lot of mainstays of the Steam thread and PC Era.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
LOL
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LOL
no body changes their mind = you must agree with me cause *i’ll* never change my mind cause I have the correct opinion
Plague Doctor
Member
LOL
It's like they are learning they are more exclusionary than inclusive. But remember, anyone who disagrees with them are the close minded right wing, hate groups (regardless of what individual's political stances actually are). But Era can act like vitriolic, borderline violent, and ban happy fascists because "they are on the right side of history".
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holygeesus
Banned
Is it just me, or have postings on Era kind of slowed down?
It feels like only 1 year ago where threads on Era in general had more activity, with a lot more different users posting comments. It also seems like over the past two years we've had a sharp increase in self requested bans as well, especially from longtime users from the old place. Without...
They really don't get it do they? It's the moderation! It is terrible! You aren't going to have an active forum when you are constantly debating posting something in case you upset the trigger-happy mods.
Kacho
Member
REE slowing down has been discussed elsewhere for months now. I'm surprised some are only now just noticing it.
In their effort to mimic what old GAF was, they've essentially stunted growth. There's too many other options available (like Discord) and forums are dying.
Imagine sticking around that place, walking on eggs shells hoping Morrigan doesn't ban you.
In their effort to mimic what old GAF was, they've essentially stunted growth. There's too many other options available (like Discord) and forums are dying.
Imagine sticking around that place, walking on eggs shells hoping Morrigan doesn't ban you.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Fun? That's not what's happening.
I suspect there are at least a few mods salivating while reading the posts in that thread, with probably 1 trying to hold them back from banning everyone who says the mods ban people for disagreeing with them.
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Hecaton117
Member
Yesterday I came across something really interesting.
Mostly because of how it relates to forums and how people who claim special privileges/protection/immunity from punishment based on victim status can negatively affect your forum.
Does anyone here remember an old forum called SomethingAwful? There are a ton of images that I will not post here so click the link to see them.
It's a pretty long read. But it goes over the downfall of the SomethingAwful forum and how it was accelerated due to what I can only describe as unfiltered narcissism.
I'll try to summarize it. However I encourage you to read through the thread yourself. My crappy summary can't get everything across and you'll have a better idea of things if you read through it yourself.
1. The site runs on really old software and has been declining for years. Subforums that were active are either ghost towns or have significantly reduced activity compared to the past.
2. Numerous controversies leading to high turnover rate for mods. Specifically mentioned is a mod who decided to permaban many people for politically incorrect behaviour ("wrong thought" and usage of words like "fag" and "retard").
3. Said moderator who previously "defended progressive values" and had a long history of doing so was later dogpiled in a trans thread (this sounds familiar, doesn't it?).
4. In recent times SomethingAwful has "become extremely orientated towards Social Justice causes over the last few years.". Moderation has become significantly more harsh and has tried to crank down on any politically incorrect content and humour. This includes searching through old archives looking for such content to remove and ban people for.
5. A culture was created where by people look for things to report to the mods until said offenders are banned off of the forum. The subforum dedicated to talking to moderators was filled with people asking for even more harsher moderation (why does this sound so familiar? Almost like this has been seen somewhere else before). Included is the deletion of old articles and content on the site when brought to attention by diggers.
6. SA has a subforum called FYAD (Fuck You and Die) which is described as a shitposting forum with loose rules that is "was always understood to be an integral part of the site's identity that produced some very funny content, FYAD tended to keep to itself and was the last bastion of the kind of off the wall edgy posting that old SA was defined by. ".
7. This subforum has recently been targeted by "wokeposters" and the trans community on SA. They demanded that the subforum be permanently closed or subject to strict moderation.
8. However all of these bans and new rules were not enough. Demands to delete FYAD continued and the mods doubled down on harsher moderation, not wanting to delete the subforum.
9. Things become more and more heated from this point, posters "started demanding that a secretive ban list be acted upon and that the forum be purged for like the 40th time in a week, with some of the mods egging them on. ".
10. If a trans person gets banned other trans posters complain to get their ban removed. Trans posters being banned for any reason are taken as proof of how bigoted the forum is. The admin team yields whenever these complaints are made.
11. After more stuff like "Beer4theBeergod was a mod for the Traditional Games forum and had to get on his hands and knees to beg for forgiveness despite some crusader attempting to doxx him: " and issues with FYAD popping up Lowtax enters the trans forum to "try and argue the case for FYAD's continued existance: ".
12. This is the critical point which I'll put in quotes again.
13. Lowtax bans a trans person and the rest rise up against him. Another mod unbans the person and at this point it is complete open season on Lowtax. Lowtax demods two people associated with FYAD and talks about being opposed to free speech in an attempt to placate the mob but it doesn't work. At this point it's made clear that being trans gives you special protection on the site to the point that bans are constantly removed if the banned user is trans. Anyone with relation to anyone who's said something that can be interpreted as "transphobic" is permed instantly. Trans thread is hidden from view from guests (registered users only).
14. Just quoting this part "Finally (really this time!) Lowtax makes a move that blackens his name among the LGBT+ users (mostly T honestly), on his livestream for New Year's Eve he makes comments about how badly the trans thread has been treating him and how vicious some elements of the trans community can be in general. He tries to defend himself as a trans ally by talking about how he's wanked off to trans porn. He ends the video by going on a banning spree on CSPAM. "
15. The SA Patreon account loses almost a thousand dollars from this and posters start talking about how Lowtax needs to give up ownership of the site or else they leave. Lowtax attempts to defend himself but to not avail he is seemingly smeared by his userbase and users who speak against the mob are punished.
16. Lowtax turns over decision making to the people posting in the mods and admins thread.
I'm going to quote the ending paragraph because it's pretty good.
This whole event reminds me of what happened at Resetera with the trans summit thread. Trans and other posters on the site say it's filled with Nazis and bigots, and how the mods are shit and aren't doing enough. Constant calls for stricter moderation and banning of humour or any unapproved speech, eventually boiling to the point where a prominent Trans poster gets banned for doing something they shouldn't and all hell breaking loose as a result.
With the mods immediately walking back their supposed unanimous decision making them look spineless as a result while also prostrating themselves before the mob and demodding supposed bigots when called for. At this point the person is unbanned and the posters realize that they can shit on the moderation and make them do whatever from that point on.
Mostly because of how it relates to forums and how people who claim special privileges/protection/immunity from punishment based on victim status can negatively affect your forum.
Does anyone here remember an old forum called SomethingAwful? There are a ton of images that I will not post here so click the link to see them.
It's a pretty long read. But it goes over the downfall of the SomethingAwful forum and how it was accelerated due to what I can only describe as unfiltered narcissism.
I'll try to summarize it. However I encourage you to read through the thread yourself. My crappy summary can't get everything across and you'll have a better idea of things if you read through it yourself.
1. The site runs on really old software and has been declining for years. Subforums that were active are either ghost towns or have significantly reduced activity compared to the past.
2. Numerous controversies leading to high turnover rate for mods. Specifically mentioned is a mod who decided to permaban many people for politically incorrect behaviour ("wrong thought" and usage of words like "fag" and "retard").
3. Said moderator who previously "defended progressive values" and had a long history of doing so was later dogpiled in a trans thread (this sounds familiar, doesn't it?).
4. In recent times SomethingAwful has "become extremely orientated towards Social Justice causes over the last few years.". Moderation has become significantly more harsh and has tried to crank down on any politically incorrect content and humour. This includes searching through old archives looking for such content to remove and ban people for.
5. A culture was created where by people look for things to report to the mods until said offenders are banned off of the forum. The subforum dedicated to talking to moderators was filled with people asking for even more harsher moderation (why does this sound so familiar? Almost like this has been seen somewhere else before). Included is the deletion of old articles and content on the site when brought to attention by diggers.
6. SA has a subforum called FYAD (Fuck You and Die) which is described as a shitposting forum with loose rules that is "was always understood to be an integral part of the site's identity that produced some very funny content, FYAD tended to keep to itself and was the last bastion of the kind of off the wall edgy posting that old SA was defined by. ".
7. This subforum has recently been targeted by "wokeposters" and the trans community on SA. They demanded that the subforum be permanently closed or subject to strict moderation.
The incident that started it said:
8. However all of these bans and new rules were not enough. Demands to delete FYAD continued and the mods doubled down on harsher moderation, not wanting to delete the subforum.
9. Things become more and more heated from this point, posters "started demanding that a secretive ban list be acted upon and that the forum be purged for like the 40th time in a week, with some of the mods egging them on. ".
10. If a trans person gets banned other trans posters complain to get their ban removed. Trans posters being banned for any reason are taken as proof of how bigoted the forum is. The admin team yields whenever these complaints are made.
11. After more stuff like "Beer4theBeergod was a mod for the Traditional Games forum and had to get on his hands and knees to beg for forgiveness despite some crusader attempting to doxx him: " and issues with FYAD popping up Lowtax enters the trans forum to "try and argue the case for FYAD's continued existance: ".
12. This is the critical point which I'll put in quotes again.
13. Lowtax bans a trans person and the rest rise up against him. Another mod unbans the person and at this point it is complete open season on Lowtax. Lowtax demods two people associated with FYAD and talks about being opposed to free speech in an attempt to placate the mob but it doesn't work. At this point it's made clear that being trans gives you special protection on the site to the point that bans are constantly removed if the banned user is trans. Anyone with relation to anyone who's said something that can be interpreted as "transphobic" is permed instantly. Trans thread is hidden from view from guests (registered users only).
14. Just quoting this part "Finally (really this time!) Lowtax makes a move that blackens his name among the LGBT+ users (mostly T honestly), on his livestream for New Year's Eve he makes comments about how badly the trans thread has been treating him and how vicious some elements of the trans community can be in general. He tries to defend himself as a trans ally by talking about how he's wanked off to trans porn. He ends the video by going on a banning spree on CSPAM. "
15. The SA Patreon account loses almost a thousand dollars from this and posters start talking about how Lowtax needs to give up ownership of the site or else they leave. Lowtax attempts to defend himself but to not avail he is seemingly smeared by his userbase and users who speak against the mob are punished.
16. Lowtax turns over decision making to the people posting in the mods and admins thread.
I'm going to quote the ending paragraph because it's pretty good.
This whole event reminds me of what happened at Resetera with the trans summit thread. Trans and other posters on the site say it's filled with Nazis and bigots, and how the mods are shit and aren't doing enough. Constant calls for stricter moderation and banning of humour or any unapproved speech, eventually boiling to the point where a prominent Trans poster gets banned for doing something they shouldn't and all hell breaking loose as a result.
With the mods immediately walking back their supposed unanimous decision making them look spineless as a result while also prostrating themselves before the mob and demodding supposed bigots when called for. At this point the person is unbanned and the posters realize that they can shit on the moderation and make them do whatever from that point on.
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Kacho
Member
They've actually had discussions about how less fun the place is compared to GAF. But I was referring more to the moderation style and what they choose to moderate. They end up banning a large portion of their community without having a line of people waiting to get in. The direction they're heading in is unsustainable.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Thank you for posting. This pattern has echoed across the internet. I've seen similar results on GameFAQs, Gamespot boards, N4G, countless subreddits no matter the topic, and of course on Twitter and Facebook.
It's almost as if the infiltration into nerd hobbies (gaming, comics) and the out-of-character eradication of Gamergate (even on places like 4chan) was a vanguard effort for a political ideology... It's almost as if some folks have been pointing this out for years (usually shouted down shortly thereafter).
I do agree ERA is following in those same footsteps, including an eventual switch to certain threads, certain boards, or even the entire ResetERA forum going "member viewable only" like it did on accident (wink) a few months ago. They cannot tolerate dissent. They cannot tolerate outside voices, not even inquisitive ones. They cannot tolerate a light being shone on their mistakes or hypocrisy.
Your observation of it all being due to "unfiltered narcissism" is entirely correct. The internet has given rise to it and society will suffer the impact for years to come. The ability to throw out a sentence or two and have millions of people hang on your words is unprecedented for most humans throughout most of history. Before it was only kings and religious leaders. Now it's whoever gains enough notoriety on Twitter. There's gotta be some psychological damage (bordering on brain-damage) going on here.
Lionel Richie
Member
No mention of gaming.
Ah yes, that's exactly the high end level of retardation I've come to expect from Resetera. Weird bravado about their size, sheer denial about their own weaknesses which lead to a) diminishing forum numbers and b) multiple communities dedicated to mocking them and to top it all off a completely undeserved self-praise for being inclusive while being the single most exclusionary piece of shit on the internet.
Oh and no games.
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eot
Banned
Damn, I would never have expected SA, a bastion of shitposting, to go down this road. Thanks for the summary.
Regarding the death of forums, I think they have a useful place that reddit/discord doesn’t fill. Reddit is awful for actual discussion and discord lacks permanence and more thought out contributions. The great thing about forums is that you can find interesting discussions, essays, stories and advice months and years later.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
The paranoia and haste to label others as "extremists" is a huge part of why GAF fell apart and why ERA is a trash-fire.
Maybe we all take one further step backwards and stop being so quick to whine when our favorite ideology doesn't get the trophy in every discussion.
nush
Member
In two years they have not created any of thier own memes, it's still frozen in time at italianmeal.jpg, character posters like Lionel Mandrake and Sunhi Legend don't post.
They kill off any topic that looks like it's going to grow into something fun by locking it "Let's not do this" and that is the primordial ooze that the memes are evolved from.
The only fun there is, is to laugh AT them from the outside in topics like this.
belmarduk
Member
I never asked for a trophy.. in fact, I like being able to discuss issues freely here.
nush
Member
Fucking LOL they just locked that topic "meta commentary and mod whining".Is it just me, or have postings on Era kind of slowed down?
It feels like only 1 year ago where threads on Era in general had more activity, with a lot more different users posting comments. It also seems like over the past two years we've had a sharp increase in self requested bans as well, especially from longtime users from the old place. Without...
I guess PC era left and made their own forum? Anyone know the name of the forum?
Windrunner you snowflake.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Yet you don't afford the same courtesy to those you write off as "extremists".
Like I said, maybe take a step back instead of being so quick to slap labels on others and whine about the results. Your attitude is what resulted in ERA. I'd prefer that GAF maintains the open discussion that you seem to enjoy.
ManaByte
Member
lmao a forum with out mods, well that clearly shows you whats the problem they had with.
I see they still have the old rules. meh
The password thing is smart. More sites should link up with the https://haveibeenpwned.com tables and do that.
Caffeine
Member
fuck i should change my passwords.
belmarduk
Member
Yet you don't afford the same courtesy to those you write off as "extremists".
Like I said, maybe take a step back instead of being so quick to slap labels on others and whine about the results. Your attitude is what resulted in ERA. I'd prefer that GAF maintains the open discussion that you seem to enjoy.
Yes, there are extremists on both the right and the left. I'm sorry my post angered you so much as it was not my intention.
ManaByte
Member
You should and you should also sign up on the site as they can notify you if your email shows up in a data breach. Firefox uses it as well built into the browser.
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Isn't there any fun involved in actively stirring the pot?
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
I'm not angry. You've gone from labelling people as extremists when it suits you to making assumptions about a stranger's emotions when called out on it. Huh, just like oldGAF and just like ERA.
belmarduk
Member
Wow you really are itching for an argument based upon my mere suggestion that extremists exist on both sites but this one is far better... which is not really something to get mad about. Hope your day gets better.
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