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[Amir0x]

intense gameplay with current-gen graphics that are actually awesome. That is why RE4 owns.

 

[NWO]

And Capcom wonders why RE4 bombed....

Actually it met all of Capcom's expectations for the Cube version and along with the PS2 version the game did a couple million worldwide without being on Player's Choice or Greatest Hits yet.

To call RE4 a bomb is stupid but then again you need to get your "point" across.

 

[Kojiro]

That doesn't make it a Sony franchise.

It was a "SONY franchise", deal with it!

 

[border]

Enemies surprise you and you die? That's what qualifies as "trial and error" now?

 

[Zenith]

BTW, no joke--RE4 had 20+ hrs gameplay, especially the first time through.

Bullshit. Took me 12:34 on my first go, and this is getting every treasure, inspecting every single texture for any links to the previous story, seeing all the different QTE endings, etc.

 

[Ranger X]

Bullshit. Took me 12:34 on my first go, and this is getting every treasure, inspecting every single texture for any links to the previous story, seeing all the different QTE endings, etc.

It's not bullshit. You're only one fast mofo.
My first play (taking my time) too me around 30 hours. Most people probably play faster and are around 20 hours.

 

[Error]

It was a "SONY franchise", deal with it!

:lol

Bullshit. Took me 12:34 on my first go, and this is getting every treasure, inspecting every single texture for any links to the previous story, seeing all the different QTE endings, etc.

this is bullshit, game took me like 18 hours the first time and I missed lots of stuff. and the way you put it the game should've took you like 50 hours to complete.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

I shoot things. They blow up. Decapitations. Fun.

 

[Evenball]

Close to 20 hours here on first try too. 15 hours on second go 'round. I dunno how you did all that in less than 13 hours. this is by far the longest of all RE games.

 

[jakershaker]

I'm sure that a lot of people though RE4 was a great game and so on but the reviews and press it got about being a total revamp of the RE series and one of the best games of this generation EVEN for those that has hated the RE gameplay is pretty much BS. I'm playing through it now and its the same old RE with a little tweaks here and there, still feels just as clunky and I'm fighting more against the controls than the enemies.

Solid game with amazing visuals but it's still RE, nothing less, nothing more.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people gave the series another chance with RE4 and walked away very disappointed.

 

[cvxfreak]

Reilly: Resident Evil 4 is Capcom's biggest financial success of the last generation. 3 Million copies sold and still going.

 

[Ranger X]

I'm sure that a lot of people though RE4 was a great game and so on but the reviews and press it got about being a total revamp of the RE series and one of the best games of this generation EVEN for those that has hated the RE gameplay is pretty much BS. I'm playing through it now and its the same old RE with a little tweaks here and there, still feels just as clunky and I'm fighting more against the controls than the enemies.

Solid game with amazing visuals but it's still RE, nothing less, nothing more.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people gave the series another chance with RE4 and walked away very disappointed.

People must be impressed because it was the first TRUE sequel imo. Other REs were just pilling up over the first one. For me, only the change in camera was already making RE4 something else and a definite improvement over the previous. And then i played the whole game and woaahhh... The action is alot more convincing and the pace of the game is perfect imo. The ambiance was top notch and rendered the game very immersive too. As immersive as the first RE+ it's novelty at the time.

 

[Zenith]

this is bullshit, game took me like 18 hours the first time and I missed lots of stuff. and the way you put it the game should've took you like 50 hours to complete.

it's not my fault you're inept at games.

 

[Reilly]

3 Million copies sold and still going.

US or Worldwide?

 

[cvxfreak]

US or Worldwide?

Worldwide. Their best this generation, and it's still selling. If that's a bomb, then so's everything else they've done this gen.

 

[Reilly]

Worldwide. Their best this generation, and it's still selling. If that's a bomb, then so's everything else they've done this gen.

US sales aren't particularly hot

 

[LakeEarth]

Bullshit. Took me 12:34 on my first go, and this is getting every treasure, inspecting every single texture for any links to the previous story, seeing all the different QTE endings, etc.

That has to be a lie, unless you went back on saves over and over again to do things the quickest. On average it took people 20+ hours on their first playthrough. Not because they suck, but because that's how long it takes.

 

[cvxfreak]

US sales aren't particularly hot

It's at 1.1 Million worldwide, and has yet to go Greatest Hits on PS2. It'll probably surpass RE3 in the next few months in the US.

 

[Error]

it's not my fault you're inept at games.

it's not my fault I'm actually realistic about things and I'm not trying to show people on the internet how big my e-penis is because I beat RE4 with everything in 13 hours the first time.

 

[cvxfreak]

It took me around 17 hours the first time, and I'm used to the way RE games work.

 

[Kangu]

The only bad thing about RE4 is that it peaks at the village and goes downhill from there so the end impression you get is slightly less than it should be if the areas were arranged in reverse.

 

[momolicious]

lol great game

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

It's freakin' incredible that's what. One of if not the best game of the generation. That's the simple truth. Some people can't handle the truth!!

 

[Error]

The only bad thing about RE4 is that it peaks at the village and goes downhill from there so the end impression you get is slightly less than it should be if the areas were arranged in reverse.

I disagree I actually think the village is worst than the castle and the island imo.

the high point of the game for me was the Castle right behind it the island.

 

[BorkBork]

Cabin level for the fucking win. I generally hate RE games but this is on my list for top 5 games this gen.

 

[Kangu]

I disagree I actually think the village is worst than the castle and the island imo.

the high point of the game for me was the Castle right behind it the island.

Cabin>>>*

 

[Pachinko]

If this game stayed exclusive to teh gamecube, it'd make the system worth owning by itself.

Call me jaded if you want but regardless of reviews or fan appeal or any of that shit, I play games to enjoy myself and it takes a REALLLY good game to get me to play through the whole thing these days. Case in point since january of 2004 I think I've finished maybe 3 games - RE4, Ninja Gaiden and Megaman Maverick hunter X, and that last one was mostly nostalgia. There may be a couple other games that I finished but not that many, I mean I'm addicted to mindless internet and MSN usage, therefore RE4 was one of the best games I've played.

I'd say 90% of those that play it will love it and the rest won't. This thread seems to be proof of that.

 

[miyuru]

The island was a little weird, I missed the vibe I got from the villagers and cultists...

Graphics seemed to just get better and better as you went along. Is there a video of that room on the island, where it's lit by the twilight? This takes place right after a cutscene with that bad guy (the boss of the game) and Ashley together. I think I ran around that room for like 5 minutes, I've never seen graphics that...*perfect* on console!

And yeah, 12 hours? No way man. It might've showed up as that, but must have fell back on saves, reset your game, etc. at some points. I mean, if you really did beat it in 12 hours, that's 6 hours a day for 2 days...is that what happened?

 

[P90]

I shoot things. They blow up. Decapitations. Fun.

Some good startles here and there too.

 

[Zenith]

That has to be a lie, unless you went back on saves over and over again to do things the quickest. On average it took people 20+ hours on their first playthrough. Not because they suck, but because that's how long it takes.

no, that's a lie. at an RE fanforum I visit the average was 15 hours. you can get 5 hours on a lazy speedrun. what the hell was wrong with your game if you kept getting 20+ hours?

it's not my fault I'm actually realistic about things and I'm not trying to show people on the internet how big my e-penis is because I beat RE4 with everything in 13 hours the first time.

yes, because if someone does better than you at a game they must be lieing. did I hit a nerve? the fact that you think 13 hours warrants boasting is indicative that something's amiss. people have managed to complete this thing in under 2 hours.

 

[Error]

bitch please... do you actually expect me to believe this...

Bullshit. Took me 12:34 on my first go, and this is getting every treasure, inspecting every single texture for any links to the previous story, seeing all the different QTE endings, etc.

on your first time?

gtfo

 

[P90]

Which is why the older RE's are better.

I have to admit, REmake is very, very close to RE4 in my book. I liked REmake's prerendered backgrounds and more of the Cube's horsepower into visuals like the snake and its reflection. I'm probably in the minority here.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Some good startles here and there too.

Mainly the zombie-things blowing up and getting decapitated and whatnot. Best part of any RE game. Boom.

 

[Prospero]

I'm playing through it for the first time right now and having a blast (I've logged about 11 hours, and I think I'm about to finish up the castle). The only parts I have even the slightest complaint about are

Spoiler

the bit where you play as Ashley, the shooting gallery, and the Super Mario Bros.-style sequence where you have to get past those fire-breathing dragons to get to a chest

. Those aren't dealbreakers in any way, though.

And, yeah, there's no trial and error in it--I've even finished off one boss (at the end of the village sequence) on the first try. It's hard to make excuses like that when every single weapon has laser targeting.

 

[P90]

Mainly the zombie-things blowing up and getting decapitated and whatnot. Best part of any RE game. Boom.

You bet.

I'm really looking forward to next gen with RE graphics-wise (PS3 and 360) and control-wise (wii).

 

[Ristamar]

Seriously though, Resident Evil 4 isn't about trial and error gameplay. It can be hard, but it's not trial and error in the sense, when a person that has mastered the mechanics of the game/combat is encountered with a new situation, he'll have to learn from the ground up again to figure out how to deal with it.

Skills transfer, trial and error doesn't.

I agree, aside from a few surprise QTEs, I was never in a scenario where I felt like anything was trial and error gameplay, and I only died a handful of times.

 

[Tea Master]

Trial and error my ass buddy. You probably just died a lot and got frustrated due to your own incompetence.

 

[LakeEarth]

no, that's a lie. at an RE fanforum I visit the average was 15 hours. you can get 5 hours on a lazy speedrun. what the hell was wrong with your game if you kept getting 20+ hours?

Yeah you can complete it that fast, but not on the first playthrough with no faqs. And yes, the average on GAF is 17-20 hours, just read the RE4 thread and you'll see everyone's average being around there.

 

[MGrant]

Seriously, why are people lauding such platitudes on this game, it is good mind you, but it is bogged down by some very gameplay mechanics that should have reached obsolescence by now. I am speaking of more then just the control system, which still feel a bit stiff, but nothing too detrimental, I am mainly speaking of this contemptible trial-and-error gameplay littered about, so damned infuriating.

I get the feeling that when this guy defenistrates, it's like Riskalnakov filibuster deaximonitoff hydroxonate.

You're on a gaming forum, and yet you're speaking like you're at a MENSA meeting. Chill out. Half of those five-dollar words you used were jammed into place despite the fact that they can't really be used like that. Gameplay mechanics "reaching obsolescence?" Please. And I don't think you know what "trial-and-error" means. Put down the thesaurus.

In other news, I thought RE4 was pretty dandy.

 

[White Man]

RE4 == Escort missions galore.

I don't like escort missions.

 

[Ristamar]

RE4 == Escort missions galore.

I don't like escort missions.

....Matlock?

 

[Shard]

I get the feeling that when this guy defenistrates, it's like Riskalnakov filibuster deaximonitoff hydroxonate.

You're on a gaming forum, and yet you're speaking like you're at a MENSA meeting. Chill out. Half of those five-dollar words you used were jammed into place despite the fact that they can't really be used like that. Gameplay mechanics "reaching obsolescence?" Please. And I don't think you know what "trial-and-error" means. Put down the thesaurus.

In other news, I thought RE4 was pretty dandy.

I just tend to use big words like that, better get used to it.

Anyway, perhaps I should redefine the annoying play mechanic; instead of calling it trial-and-error I think the word roadblock would be more apt. In any case, the problems I bitched about are not that detrimental to the game, they don’t break it for me, but I do think the game could have been better when some, shall we say fresher level design.

 

[way more]

This was the only game with excort missions I enjoyed. They seemed to end just as I was getting cranky and they were the only element of fear in the game.

I hope nobody listens to the OP and I don't imagine anybody will. It sounds like the game is too hard for you. I'm not hearing poor level design problems in your posts. It seems you just die way too often. Would you elaborate on other games you felt were trial and error?





Mission: Impossible #1 most trial and error game.

 

[Oblivion]

I haven't played the previous RE games, so my opinion is just based on RE4 itself. And I thought it was just a damn well made, beautiful looking game.

 

[Pedigree Chum]

As much as I like this game I still don't like the controls. When Capcom goes FULL 3D controls with RE, you can call me.

 

[Jokeropia]

Really?

I played RE4 five times in a row. There was always at least one more reason to play through the main story again; that's not even including the fact that the main game would've been worth that time investment anyway. As I recall, I played through once, then wanted to play through on HARD mode. Then I beat that, and wanted to play through with the Chicago typewriter. Then I wanted to go back through and make sure I picked up all the treasures and upgraded my guns to maximum. Then I wanted to snag the Magnum from Mercs and play through with it.

QFT. I've beaten it six times now myself.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I thought I'd like the game, and I did for a while... but the fun factor shot down for me after a few hours.

It's one of the only games I wish was shorter. I haven't touched the game in months, and I don't think I'll be picking it up again anytime soon.

 

[Shard]

This was the only game with excort missions I enjoyed. They seemed to end just as I was getting cranky and they were the only element of fear in the game.

I hope nobody listens to the OP and I don't imagine anybody will. It sounds like the game is too hard for you. I'm not hearing poor level design problems in your posts. It seems you just die way too often. Would you elaborate on other games you felt were trial and error?

Mission: Impossible #1 most trial and error game.

Well, in the case of RE 4, it is set up a lot like the old Doom games, a lot of get the item, hit the switch, enter a new place, as I said before "roadblock" would be a more appropriate term to call this thing instead of "trial-and-error." Also, you are right about Mission: Impossible, god that was such a piece of shit game.

 

[Halcyon-banned]

Can't say I agree with you, Shard. RE4 has no more trial-and-error in it's design than most other games, and in fact is more modern than most in other ways.

 

[Feindflug]

I can't understand all this hate...I guess now it's cool to hate RE4. -__-

Anyway RE4 is the 2nd best game last gen (tie with MGS3...behind SotC / ICO)and one of the best games evar - beautiful graphics, awesome boss fights, intense gameplay & a good 20hs first playthrough. What's not to love? ^____^