You are not alone. When the choice came I didn't even hesitate to pick Zoe over Mia. The game didn't too good enough job to make me care about Mia and like Ethan says "Mia's no good to anyone right now".
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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread
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You are not alone. When the choice came I didn't even hesitate to pick Zoe over Mia. The game didn't too good enough job to make me care about Mia and like Ethan says "Mia's no good to anyone right now".
I killed them very easily using flame and neuro rounds with the Grenade Launcher. You can attack them while they are going down with the elevator for a few free hits as well. Neuro rounds stun them, so you can shoot them with other weapons if you want, or hack at them with the round saw.
As for the coins, there are 24 coins in the Baker's house before you pass the point of no return, the last fight with Jack. The remainder coins are all in the ship, except for one that is in the mines, IIRC.
It's highly likely he was infected very early into the game, considering Zoe literally staples his hand on and you can reattach Ethan's leg and he doesn't lose any functionality in any of them, which would point to him having an superhuman healing ability.
The laboratory was run by Lucas, he used it to test samples and spy on his family to a 'third party'. This 'third party' also provided him with the antidote to the mind control. Note that he was still infected to some degree, since he obviously regenerates and at one point talks to Eveline, who only appears to infected. He wasn't in service of Umbrella though, considering that you can listen in on the Umbrella people on the helicopters talking about Lucas and how he was discovered sending messages to a 'third party' on Eveline and the effects of her powers on the family, so he was probably talking to a competitor of Umbrella.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Where does it say Lucas was cured with a surgery?
GalacticSushiman
Member
Man the quality took a nosedive after Baker house, the ship section is nowhere as good because it looks boring and the only things you fight are molded and you have machine gun, remote bomb and what not.
I finished the section and now am off to swamps but I read somewhere that you can fight Mia in the ship when she gets reinfected. How? She locked the door.
Also does Mia end up on the boat no matter who you give the cure to ? Meaning the cure was useless for both Mia and Zoe as regardless of who you give it to Mia always ends up on the boat and gets infected at the end.
I finished the section and now am off to swamps but I read somewhere that you can fight Mia in the ship when she gets reinfected. How? She locked the door.
Also does Mia end up on the boat no matter who you give the cure to ? Meaning the cure was useless for both Mia and Zoe as regardless of who you give it to Mia always ends up on the boat and gets infected at the end.
Ordinaryundone
Member
I thought in the email in the lab? He definitely talks about them removing something from his brain, but I guess it could have been chemically rather than surgically. There is also a letter in the Baker mansion telling someone (i think Marge) that they found mold in their brain and urging them to come in for treatment which might have colored my opinion somewhat.
Well I saw what happens when you save Zoe, seems strange that Mia would end up there after being left at the Boathouse.
Disagree Guy
Member
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
Corpsepyre
Banned
Hmm, I see. Still not sure when that scene with Jack happens where he asks Ethan to help them.
Ordinaryundone
Member
I was thinking it took place in some weird mold gestalt consciousness when I first played it but I guess the simpler, and more likely, explanation is that it happened before the dinner scene at the start. Though that raises questions of why Ethan has his hand and stuff like that.
mugurumakensei
Member
He's definitely infected by the time he's acquiring the d-series arm since that's the first time I believe he sees Eveline. So the only time for him to be infected and not know would be when he is unconscious before the dinner scene.
SargerusBR
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It's some sort of shared consciousness because all 3 are infected by Eveline. At the time of that scene took place Marguerite was already dead and Lucas was cured from Eveline's mind control, that's why both don't appear in that scene at all.
Are you saying that scene is a flashback? Just like Mia in the ship or Ethan fighting against her as a hallucination in the guest house? i like that possibility.
That would mean that Jack was free for a brief moment,most likely between the moment that Ethan lost his hand and the dinner scene.
If the vision of Jack at the end is indeed a flashback to a conversation before the dinner, that changes the entire game, as it means Zoe and Jack broke free of Eveline's mind control if only for a bit. It also means that Ethan lost his memory wiped somewhere along the line, as we only find out who Eveline is at the end of the game.
Disagree Guy
Member
Memory loss would make sense because Mia couldn't remember sending that video to Ethan on the boat.....
When you meet her in the house she's adamant she didn't send it
Uhm that's fascinating and would explain how Ethan knew where to go exactly since the VHS didn't mention any location at all
But if Ethan can see Eveline maybe it's more like a network with all the minds connected but that doesn't explain why Margerite is not in the scene as the others...
That's interesting, that would explain why Zoey trust Ethan and why she is looking into the window like she is guarding the reunion but then again, why is Ethan in that place?
Ordinaryundone
Member
Jack was dead too though. It happens in the pod on the ship, after you kill Jack on the dock. Hell, Zoe can be dead by that point as well. If it is a shared consciousness thing then it's more likely that they just didn't bother to include Marge for whatever reason.
The only evidence I can come to to it being a flashback are that A) Flashbacks are fairly common in the game via the tapes and B) we see Mia slip in and out of control so it's reasonable that Jack could experience the same thing. The only reason I consider it is because there is no in-story basis for a shared consciousness within the Mold based on what we know about it. It's just an assumption you have to make for the scene to make sense.
I'd actually forgotten (heh) that Mia had no recollection of sending the tape. Looks like this flashback theory could pan out to be true, and would be a nice twist to the game.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
It's definitely Ethan encountering the consciousness of Zoe and Jack within Evelyn's hivemind. That's what the whole "joining the family" was really all about, linking up with evelyn's fungal network. For a brief moment while cocooned Ethan linked up to the hivemind and Jack begged him to free his family. Pretty self explanatory to me, seems like you have to do some serious mental gymnastics to think it's a flashback to the beginning of the game.
But that first REmake, 5, 6 and Chronicles all have different designs? To me you're just proving his point o0
If the ship portion had molded crew members and scientists in varying states of partial transformation, it would've been more interesting. Anything would have.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I didn't think it was the video that Mia had no recollection of sending - I thought it was the email, telling Ethan where the plantation was and to come get her (the one in your inventory at the start of the game). It makes more sense that way. In the video she tells him to stay away - she wouldn't say "no I wouldn't have sent that" if that's what they were talking about.
Unless I missed something where she explicitly states she doesn't remember sending the STAY AWAY video.
Maybe he was the monster at the start of the ship section? The big one, like Eveline transformed him into "the little bitch" and now is a monster?
Because Eveline transformed a few hours after that
Disagree Guy
Member
iirc he just says I got your message and she starts freaking out about it not being her. She also can't remember how she got where she was. That was the whole point of the Evie tape on the boat.
Ordinaryundone
Member
Well, it's just the room next to the dining room where the dinner scene takes place. Probably not even minutes before it starts. If you mean why Jack and Zoe would even bother with Ethan I assume it's either desperation or his connection with Mia (and his ability to fight her and win) that gave them hope he'd be able to survive them and beat Eveline.
Disagree Guy
Member
Another thing -
Why was the policeman there? Lucas did say something about 'that damn pig again'
Why was the policeman there? Lucas did say something about 'that damn pig again'
Why would this reprieve between "Welcome to the Family son" and "This boy need to eat" exist? I don't see any indiciation that Jack could regain his control over his mind after Eveline's infection took over.
Could be to do with the missing Sewer Gators crew. They specifically go out to check that house and go missing, which probably raised suspicions enough for the police to be called.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
There's extensive notes on mycellium, it's pretty clear that this new breed of bioweapon was heavily inspired by the theories around fungal intelligence, mycellium in reality has been claimed to be a sort of "natural internet" as countless mushroom colonies will attach to one another across great distances, forming a vast network that functions as a single organism that can supposedly survive for hundreds of years. Evelyn seems to be doing the same thing just psychologically planting her roots instead of physically branching out (although I suppose she does that too...)
Some of the notes allude to it pretty heavily.
Disagree Guy
Member
Could be, it's just weird that he doesn't state his business like 'looking for missing persons' or whatever.
"We've got several calls about some missing persons lately" is what he says.
Then he elaborates by saying "Look, like I said, we've had several missing persons calls, and I can't rule out that an outsider like yourself may not be involved".
akidnamededdy
Banned
I mean I'm not ruling out that she forgot sending the "Stay Away" video as well. I'm just saying the whole reason Ethan is there at the plantation in the first place was because he got the email from Mia (or "Mia") stating 1) that she was still alive and 2) where exactly she was and 3) for him to come pick her up. So it makes a lot more sense that when Mia is confused to see him and Ethan says "I got your message" he'd be referring to the email and not the video. Also makes more sense that she'd be referring to the email as well when she says "No, I wouldn't have done that" - especially if she DOES remember sending the "Stay Away" video.
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
Still cant believe that current Cacpcom was able to make that kind of RE game.. after 5 AND 6 and all those other spinoffs
20 persons missing in that zone, looks like Baker's is the only house around, nobody saw the Baker's in three years.
But
why people go to that house in the first place? They aren't welcoming any new members to the family
As I understand it a reputation grew around it being haunted. So I assume at least some of the victims came to visit the house and got snatched up.
That would expalin at least 6 of them 3 being the Sewer gator
WAIT
Theres a newspaper which says ghost sights in the zone
maybe the fungus is spreading?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
One theory out there is that Jack is not dead (at least his mind), consider that even though his body was calcified, he never desintegrates like Marguerite, Eveline and Mia in the bad ending.
Thanks for taking your time answering my multiple questions
I also think that the serum thing is a bit messed up, the fact that Mia ends up on the boat anyway is a bit forced also she should have either died petrified like Zoe or she should have been cured based on the documents you find about the serum properties.
Instead at the end of the boat sequence it's clear that Eveline has still some kind of control on her.
Btw the game doesn't talk about a brain surgery on Lucas, it could have been some kind of serum/antidote this company gave to him.
Still I don't get how Lucas can still talk to Eveline and fool her into believing that he's under her control.
Yeah I didn't remember about that intercepted conversation just before the salt mine.
But it seems to me that Lucas was basically just reporting to them, the laboratory was run by this company that probably is the same behind Eveline.
The serum kits are marked with the "Tentsu" mark so maybe that's the company and Umbrella is one of the companies who were trying to steal Eveline.
So is there no way to carry over your stuff from previous playthrough? I never managed to get the magnum cause I went for steroids and the reload enhancer and by the time I got to the room in the swamps I was 2 coins short. And what about the Albert gun? I read that you can use it in 2nd playthrough...How?
Or does it work like older games where you can only carry over if you replay on same difficulty (why would anyone want to do that for their first rerun? I wish Madhouse was unlocked from get go..Never liked game locking difficulties behind completions)
Or does it work like older games where you can only carry over if you replay on same difficulty (why would anyone want to do that for their first rerun? I wish Madhouse was unlocked from get go..Never liked game locking difficulties behind completions)
Yeah, the only collectibles that carry over are Mr. Everywheres. Any unlockables you receive from beating the game will be available in the item box for all new playthroughs, regardless of difficulty.
WrenchNinja
Member
Yknow it just hit me, Lucas is kind of like a redneck scientist. I don't think I've ever seen one of those in fiction.
Jawmuncher
Member
Necrotoxin Rocket though
Yeah fuck it they had no excuse lol.
Ordinaryundone
Member
Didn't know that, super cool. That does make the idea of a collective mold consciousness via Resident Evil science seem a lot more plausible.