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[SOLDIER]

Aw, man, you're saying that

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Wesker kills Lisa? I wanted her to remain in the series and eventually get revenge on Wesker.

 

[Prime Blue]

It seems to me that you're judging the game based on it's impact on the overall storyline (which I still think is fairly huge).

It just seems like that.
Though I wouldn't have to if they didn't market it as Resident Evil Fan Service: The Game. The press release promised "many secrets to events throughout the RE series" and what we got from the files so far is too few to fit that description - that's my impression, at least.

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Lisa Trevor's fate is finally resolved - she was defeated by post-resurrection Wesker and blew up with the mansion. This showdown is particularly interesting for me because Wesker once used Lisa as a test subject.

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We always knew she died by being blown up (if Birkin - who was a fully mutated semi-immortal G-Virus monster - died, she also did). The only change is that she is the final boss of Wesker's mansion scenario. But it doesn't really make a difference.

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Spencer hired top lawyers and used false witnesses in an attempt to make Raccoon City look like a government conspiracy, but lost.

I mentioned this in my post above. But that's indeed one of the bigger mysteries unraveled.

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Ada Wong escaped Raccoon City solo after rendezvousing with Nicholai. Her scenario also confirms which version of RE2's events is canon.

Again, mentioned above, just the

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Nicholai thing is missing as we can't be sure yet that it's really him (or has it already been confirmed somewhere?).

And that's just not enough yet to make me confident. I really hope the cutscenes give some more insight into the story than these files.
There are some things I would be more interested in, like a flat-out confirmation that Wesker is working for the company S or more information on Ada's "organization".

 

[Synless]

WTF did they do to Wesker's voice?!?!?!?!?!? What the hell he sounds stupid as shit......I'm dissapointed on an epic scale with Capcom's choice on that one.

 

[Zeed]

Aw, man, you're saying that

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Wesker kills Lisa? I wanted her to remain in the series and eventually get revenge on Wesker.

Well they do have their final confrontation. It's just that the outcome wasn't the one you wanted. Sorry!

Though I wouldn't have to if they didn't market it as Resident Evil Fanservice: The Game. The press release...

Are you really going to let Capcom's marketing strategy affect your enjoyment of the game? That's your prerogative I guess...but I just can't relate to that.

As far as I can see, the game is loaded with more fanservice than any one game has a right to have. It's not just the overall impact on the plot that counts as fanservice, you know. There is, after all, actually being able to play as certain characters in certain scenarios we never saw before.

 

[Prime Blue]

Are you really going to let Capcom's marketing strategy affect your enjoyment of the game? That's your prerogative I guess...but I can't relate to that.

I won't buy UC because of the immersing gameplay, but because of the intriguing storyline details. I'm a total RE whore.

As far as I can see, the game is loaded with more fanservice than any one game has a right to have. It's not just the overall impact on the plot that counts as fanservice, you know. There is, after all, actually being able to play as certain characters in certain scenarios we never saw before.

As I mentioned before, CODE:Veronica is the perfect example of how the plot of a sequel should be.
I could care less about which characters we get to play, I see the game more as an interactive movie of sorts. But that's just me. Really just me.

 

[Zeed]

but because of the intriguing storyline details.

So...didn't like RE4 much, did you?

 

[Prime Blue]

So...didn't like RE4 much, did you?

The GCN version, not so much. Because they couldn't finish Separate Ways before it was released and the story doesn't really make any sense without it. Ada's mission adds so much to the game, to the point where it becomes indispensable. And that was the reason why everybody complained about the storyline of biohazard4 in the first place.
The PlayStation 2 port and the Wii edition did make up for that. And I'm pretty sure there wouldn't have been nearly as much bitching if they had included Ada's scenario from the very beginning.

Also, you put my quote out of context. I said I won't buy UC because of the gameplay, not that the same applies to all RE titles. My expectations for the gameplay are pretty low here. Maybe I'll be positively surprised when I finally get to play it, maybe not. Time will tell.

 

[Zeed]

The PlayStation 2 port and the Wii edition did make up for that. And I'm pretty sure there wouldn't have been nearly as much bitching if they had included Ada's scenario from the very beginning.

After wracking my brains for a few moments, I came up with this comprehensive list of important plot details we learned from Separate Ways:

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Ada didn't give Wesker the sample, she works for someone else.

And that's about it, really. I thought it was neat how we saw that it was Ada who rang the church bell and such, but as you pointed out earlier, none of that stuff really matters in the big scheme of things.

 

[Prime Blue]

After wracking my brains for a few moments, I came up with this comprehensive list of important plot details we learned from Separate Ways:

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Ada didn't give Wesker the sample, she works for someone else.

And that's about it, really. I thought it was neat how we saw that it was Ada who rang the church bell and such, but as you pointed out earlier, none of that stuff really matters in the big scheme of things.

There's more:

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- how Los Ganados work (how Saddler controlled them, for example)
- that the Plaga sample Ada was after is a master sample only a select few got injected with
- the connection between Luis and Ada
- Wesker's orders and relation to Ada
- to which corporation Wesker has contact to

(why are we spoiler-tagging details from two-years-old multi-platform games?)
...and more I can't think of now and don't want to investigate because I'm not willing to respoil the game for me before I get to play the Wii edition.

Still, the point is: I purchased biohazard4 because it used a new formula, not because I had to save the president's daughter. I didn't expect anything from the storyline whereas it's the other way around for UC.

 

[Zeed]

how Los Ganados work (how Saddler controlled them, for example)
We already knew that Saddler controlled them, knowing that it's sound that does it isn't really important.

that the Plaga sample Ada was after is a Master Sample only a selected few got injected
I'll give you this one.

the connection between Luis and Ada
This has no bearing on the plot at all.

Wesker's orders and relation to Ada
We already knew about these, the exact wording isn't important.

to which corporation Wesker has contact to
Was it ever named? I can't remember. I'll give you this one if it was, but if it wasn't then it's utterly pointless.

Still, the point is: I purchased Resident Evil 4 because it used a new formula, not because I had to save the president's daughter. I didn't expect anything from the storyline whereas it's the other way around for The Umbrella Chronicles.

Okay then. I think you already know you're going to be in the minority who are actually displeased by a lack of fanservice.

 

[cvxfreak]

Wesker's orders and relation to Ada
We already knew about these, the exact wording isn't important.

Uh, no one knew that

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Ada was *pretending* to work for Wesker.

 

[Prime Blue]

to which corporation Wesker has contact to
Was it ever named? I can't remember.

It's the giant pharmaceutical corporation S.

Uh, no one knew that

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Ada was *pretending* to work for Wesker.

Plus that.

Okay then. I think you already know you're going to be in the minority who are actually displeased by a lack of fanservice.

I think I made it more than clear that I'm not disappointed by the lack of fan service in the game but the lack of fan service we got through the documents in the game, at that moment in time.

 

[Zeed]

Uh, no one knew that

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Ada was *pretending* to work for Wesker.

That was the very first one I ever brought up.

It's the giant pharmaceutical corporation S.

The company name is S? Seriously? That's...a pretty bad name.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

EGM Live -
Sutner liked it, said it was a good but not great game.

IGN Wii-K -
Bozon liked it, said it was a good but not great game.

 

[Prime Blue]

The company name is S? Seriously? That's...a pretty bad name.

Oh, exploitable.

 

[cvxfreak]

That was the very first one I ever brought up.

Your contradiction, not mine.

 

[Tenbatsu]

Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles (w/ Wii Zapper) sold out at play-asia also. Hmm..

 

[koam]

My wrist is hurting. I've made it to RE3 now. I'm calling it quits for the night. It's a pretty easy game. Is there a harder difficulty to unlock?

 

[schuelma]

Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles (w/ Wii Zapper) sold out at play-asia also. Hmm..

Both the stand alone and Zapper pack in are sold out at Amazon as well...

 

[Prime Blue]

Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles (w/ Wii Zapper) sold out at play-asia also. Hmm..

Wow, fast one. It was "Pre-orders beginning soon" a few hours ago. I really thought about getting this just to aquire a copy of "Wesker's Extra Report". Then again, it'll be uploaded by someone else soon.
Are you getting that, cvx? *nodnod*

 

[Zeed]

Your contradiction, not mine.

Your failure of reading comprehension, not mine.

He brought up Wesker's orders after I mentioned Ada being a double agent. In this context it should be obvious that both he and I were talking about just that - Wesker's orders. Which were, as I mentioned before, already known. The exact wording is irrelevant.

My wrist is hurting. I've made it to RE2 now.

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HUNK or Ada?

EGM Live -
Sutner liked it, said it was a good but not great game.

IGN Wii-K -
Bozon liked it, said it was a good but not great game.

Did they mention when they were going to give us the reviews already? I predict about an 8 from all sides.

 

[fernoca]

Did they mention when they were going to give us the reviews already? I predict about an 8 from all sides.

Probably a 7.9 from IGN..they love that score..

 

[cvxfreak]

Your failure of reading comprehension, not mine.

He brought up Wesker's orders after I mentioned Ada being a double agent. In this context it should be obvious that both he and I were talking about just that - Wesker's orders. Which were, as I mentioned before, already known. The exact wording is irrelevant.

It's completely your fault for wording in such a manner that allowed you to contradict your earlier statement. Be more specific because it's not my duty to make sure your statements are clear and accurate.

Wow, fast one. It was "Pre-orders beginning soon" a few hours ago. I really thought about getting this just to aquire a copy of "Wesker's Extra Report". Then again, it'll be uploaded by someone else soon.
Are you getting that, cvx? *nodnod*

Have mine pre-ordered here in Japan. I'm glad I did. Last I checked on Amazon JP, even the normal pack is pre-sold out. (Could go back up soon though)

 

[koam]

nevermind i'm stupid

 

[Redd]

I'm not sure I understand? I'm playing 2player co-op, we have to choose both available characters. Do you get different missions depending on who player 1 chooses? I'm also pretty sure for RE2, i only have a choice between Leon and Claire.

Wait so there is a RE2 stage with Claire and Leon. Sorry I really haven't followed this thread but that will do it for me and I'll purchase this game.

 

[koam]

Well i'm on the third chapter right now.

Chapter one was divided into three parts: Billy and Rebecca based on RE0
Chapter two was divided into three parts: Chris and Jill based on RE1
Chapter three seems to be divided into three parts: Jill and Carlos based on RE3(?)

Edit: Please shoot me, i'm a moron.

 

[cvxfreak]

Eh? RE2 isn't supposed to be in the game. Are you sure you aren't confusing it with Jill and Carlos in RE3?

 

[underfooter]

Well i'm on the third chapter right now.

Chapter one was divided into three parts: Billy and Rebecca based on RE0
Chapter two was divided into three parts: Chris and Jill based on RE1
Chapter three seems to be divided into three parts: Leon and Claire based on RE2

I'm not sure if which character you pick makes a difference since i'm playing it coop and we have to choose both characters. What I did notice though is that in RE2, i seem to be doing the Claire scenario from the real RE2 game.

YOU ARE JOKING!

 

[Redd]

Well i'm on the third chapter right now.

Chapter one was divided into three parts: Billy and Rebecca based on RE0
Chapter two was divided into three parts: Chris and Jill based on RE1
Chapter three seems to be divided into three parts: Leon and Claire based on RE2

Oh this is great and here I thought they left Resident Evil 2(my 2nd favorite) out of UC. Now I know the third game i'm getting at KB on black friday.

 

[koam]

I MIGHT be confusing it with Jill and Carlos, it's highly possible. I only played the stage for a minute. The only reason i think it's RE2 is cause the very first part had the burning car, wasn't that RE2?

Edit: Let me go check and make sure before this board kills me.

Oh shit.. Jill and Carlos. That explains the lack of a police station

THERE IS NO RESIDENT EVIL 2 IN THIS GAME. KOAM CAN'T READ.

 

[cvxfreak]

I MIGHT be confusing it with Jill and Carlos, it's highly possible. I only played the stage for a minute. The only reason i think it's RE2 is cause the very first part had the burning car, wasn't that RE2?

Edit: Let me go check and make sure before this board kills me.

Yeah, you're playing the RE3 chapter. :lol

RE3's chapter is based off the Outbreak environments so it's going to be pretty different from the original game.

 

[Redd]

.........Well check later please hopefully you were right.

 

[koam]

.........Well check later please hopefully you were right.

I just checked

 

[cvxfreak]

I just checked

 

[underfooter]

You just got me so excited for nothing Koam.

 

[Redd]

Well now it's back to rental maybe buy if I like it. Won't take much, I love house of the dead, Juraissic Park, and time crisis.

 

[C- Warrior]

Somebody record some footage of them playing w/ cutscenes.

I won't find a Wii until I get into med school, at which point life ends anyway.

 

[koam]

 

[cvxfreak]

The Outbreak areas are so ugly compared to the REmake/Zero/new areas.

 

[koam]

The special effects are really nice though. It looks pretty bad in the pic I posted but the fire and the explosions are really pretty. I find the RE0 ones to be pretty ugly at times, too blurry. The RE1 ones are fantastic.

 

[Tenbatsu]

The Outbreak areas are so ugly compared to the REmake/Zero/new areas.

Sigh, I want a new Outbreak

 

[Lyte Edge]

Because it would make zero sense to have two players playing as one character at the same time. The scenarios with one player are one player only because two players wouldn't make sense. I mean, do you really want there to be two

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HUNK

s running around in the sewer? And who would be Wesker's partner after his resurrection?

There are extra scenarios where there are two characters, and in those scenarios you get two players. Really, be glad you're getting the extra chapters at all.

This is, first and foremost, a gun game. It's silly to have single-player only scenarios; two "clones" would have been fine and would have no impact on the cut scenes at all.

 

[koam]

This is, first and foremost, a gun game. It's silly to have single-player only scenarios; two "clones" would have been fine and would have no impact on the cut scenes at all.

Pretty much, you don't even need the clone, just have 2 reticles when you play but only one person in the cutscene. I'm pretty sure more people would be happy with this solution.

 

[C- Warrior]

What, are there scenarios where you have to have two people playing in order to play-out?

 

[koam]

What, are there scenarios where you have to have two people playing in order to play-out?

No, other way around. I'm just bitching that there's missions that you can't play 2 players even though it would not be hard to do.

 

[Yama]

The Outbreak areas are so ugly compared to the REmake/Zero/new areas.

I certainly wish the game had a unified graphics engine. It is odd to see Jill and Carlos running down the very stairs that you start in Underbelly. Reminded me of us playing Outbreak File: 2 or something. :lol

 

[Zeed]

It's completely your fault for wording in such a manner that allowed you to contradict your earlier statement.

Actually, I didn't contradict my statements at all. Your laziness is the only thing to blame here. Maybe next time you should try actually reading the thread, I hear that helps.

This is, first and foremost, a gun game.

Eh, I disagree. It's not some spinoff, it's actually attempting to depict a narrative - remember, originally this wasn't even a gun game at all. The whole point was always to summarize the story thus far and fill in the blanks left in the wake of RE4. It would be highly awkward to be running around with two Ada Wongs at the same time. That shit might fly in a multiplayer minigame, but not in the main story.

 

[MiamiWesker]

I certainly wish the game had a unified graphics engine. It is odd to see Jill and Carlos running down the very stairs that you start in Underbelly. Reminded me of us playing Outbreak File: 2 or something. :lol

Yeah it just screams of lazy too. Funny thing is when Outbreak 2 came out and we saw the RPD, I remember us saying they can almost piece together a RE2 remake using the RPD and the lab, well here is a game that could do it and they skip on 2.

 

[cvxfreak]

Actually, I didn't contradict my statements at all. Your laziness is the only thing to blame here. Maybe next time you should try actually reading the thread, I hear that helps.

I only wish I employed laziness earlier so I don't kill my insanity with this stupid argument.

Wesker's orders and relation to Ada
We already knew about these, the exact wording isn't important.

We didn't know about what you said below. You were mentioning this to refute Prime Blue's justification of the importance of Separate Ways. Instead of conceding the point to match your earlier comment ("I agree, see above"), you attempt to inaccurately write off Prime Blue's bullet point. We didn't "already know about [Wesker's orders and relation to Ada]" prior to the big revelation of this minigame.

What you said wasn't accurate because, by your own admission, you expect people to be able to contextualize and comprehend what really is a poorly written statement. Sorry, can't read your head. You could have clarified instead of accusing people of failing reading comprehension or being lazy even though that obviously isn't the case.

 

[Hero]

Just played the first two scenarios and got up to RE3. Not a bad game. I'd compare it to House of the Dead with some depth.

For me personally, I got a lot more fun out of shooting the background lights/boxes/candles/etc trying to look for Umbrella Corp. files. RE fanboys like CVXFreak are gonna have a field day with this game. Seems like there's a lot of stuff to be found in each segment to give it replayability for the fanboys.