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This has kinda bothered me since I started my office job. I feel like I worked a lot harder in retail, dressed nicer and was responsible for much more overall. In my office job which I've had since May as long as I get my work done I can browse the net, joke around and feel like I'm treated much better.

So the question is why am I getting paid more for less stressful work and working not as hard than I was in retail. It seems kinda off.
 
This has kinda bothered me since I started my office job. I feel like I worked a lot harder in retail, dressed nicer and was responsible for much more overall. In my office job which I've had since May as long as I get my work done I can browse the net, joke around and feel like I'm treated much better.

So the question is why am I getting paid more for less stressful work and working not as hard than I was in retail. It seems kinda off.

Welcome to the 30%
 
So the question is why am I getting paid more for less stressful work and working not as hard than I was in retail. It seems kinda off.

Kind of reminds me of when I worked at a factory doing assembly for one summer. It was by far the easiest job I'd had, and one of the easiest I've ever had, it was also the one I got paid the most for. Compared to my gas station and deli jobs it was nothing. I did stuff so fast they told me to stop sometimes and just sit around for the last hour and a half.
 
Retail vs Office vs Construction.

I was giong to come in here and post this.

At this point in my life, I think I would have liked to do a trade more than anything else. I've done factory work, customer service (hotel and phone) work, and tons of office work. The factory work was the most physically grueling but my day went by MUCH faster. The customer service work was the most emotionally draining and half the time I felt like a lump, but it required no real mental effort. The office work is fun when stuff gets going, but I spend so much time just starting at the ceiling.
 
Wait just a god damned second. So what you're suggesting is that unskilled, slave wage retail jobs are often much harder than more desirable cushy office jobs?
 
I love my office job. I can browse gaf all day and I am way more valuable and productive than in my retail days.
 
Wait just a god damned second. So what you're suggesting is that unskilled, slave wage retail jobs are often much harder than more desirable cushy office jobs?

im amazed, yeah who would have thought.

and here i was about to give up my office job to go to retail cause i assumed it was easier
 
Because retail doesn't require any skills. All you need is the ability to take shit from people.

Pretty much. And unlike other entry level jobs it isn't fast paced and you don't get your hands dirty.

Wait just a god damned second. So what you're suggesting is that unskilled, slave wage retail jobs are often much harder than more desirable cushy office jobs?

For some jobs? Definitely.
 
My experience:

Retail: ohhh god this suuuccks

Office: aahhhhhhh this is soooo much worrrse

Back to Retail: There's Got to Be Something Better

Special Education Slave: OMFG SO HAPPY



I really don't know how people survive in office environments. It's like the most contrived, unnatural environment ever. Retail sucks, but in the office I felt like I was becoming less alive.

Can't wait to get credentials as a "Professional" Special Educator so I can get paid a living wage AND do something that doesn't make me hate the world, lol.
 
I currently work a full time office job and a part time retail job.

The office job is better pay, I can surf the net (within reason), and listen to my ipod all day. That said, the job makes me feel fucking dead inside.

The retail job is more fun but pays shit, and you have to deal with people you'd rather not know existed sometimes.

Eh. Not sure where I was going with this. I agree that Retail is harder, and you get paid less. Doesn't make sense sometimes but it is what it is.
 
Being the only young guy in the office (with nobody your age to talk to or relate with) sucks even harder.


I wouldn't mind working retail for a bit, if just to be with people my age.
 
They are both absolutely soul-crushing and I'd rather do anything else. Teaching, military, arts, driving a bus full of children over a cliff. I'm currently considering a desperate move to try and get out.

That said, a friend of mine, when comparing Wal-Mart (Wal-Mart!) to the call center we work at currently, would rather go back there any day. So I suppose retail "wins" some small victory from that.


So I imagine you don't like working in a cubicle.
 
This has kinda bothered me since I started my office job. I feel like I worked a lot harder in retail, dressed nicer and was responsible for much more overall. In my office job which I've had since May as long as I get my work done I can browse the net, joke around and feel like I'm treated much better.

So the question is why am I getting paid more for less stressful work and working not as hard than I was in retail. It seems kinda off.


You got lucky with a cushy office job.

I went from retail management to working in an office at a high pressure sales job in one of the worst businesses with some of the worst people on earth. I did it for 2 reasons - the money was better, and the working hours were better. No more Black Fridays or working like a bitch on the weekends.

I certainly didn't work as hard physically, but my body also paid the price. I gained about 50 pounds in 5 years because I did not go to the gym. I was not used to exercising or working out, because I got plenty of exercise walking and lifting in my retail job. When I transitioned to an office, I did nothing to compensate for this fact and I turned into a filthy fucking tub of guts.
 
My experience:

Retail: ohhh god this suuuccks

Office: aahhhhhhh this is soooo much worrrse

Back to Retail: There's Got to Be Something Better

Special Education Slave: OMFG SO HAPPY



I really don't know how people survive in office environments. It's like the most contrived, unnatural environment ever. Retail sucks, but in the office I felt like I was becoming less alive.

Can't wait to get credentials as a "Professional" Special Educator so I can get paid a living wage AND do something that doesn't make me hate the world, lol.

My old retail fellow associates ask me how the office job I got back after relocating to a different state is going, my response, "Blissfully boring." My Last job was a high pressure sales job that I started not believing in due to the company I worked for going back to their old ways. Is my office job boring? Hell yes, but when I go home do I worry that I did enough work to make enough money that day, hell no. I use my work-stress free life to work on other ventures to get myself into business for myself, and the pay raise from moving back into the office workplace definitely helps me get there faster. Biggest negative to working in the office is the weight gain, I actually have to add working out back into my daily schedule for myself. But my motto is "Why complain - Being positive is more fun!" (someone else said it first, don't ask I do not remember) and that is how I handle each day of boring work. Some co-worker wants to complain about something I just smile and listen, we have to sit in on boring meeting I take notes ask the presenter a question to make them think about what they are saying and I just smile, I have to do the same repetitive task endlessly I make a game out of it. The best part about it is that I get paid because I have work experience and I can prove to my manager that I more than competent at my job. My Wife, Mother-in-law and Sister-in-law all work for the same company and the in-laws complain incessantly about how they hate their job. Now the Wife and I do not like our jobs daily functions as our dream jobs but we treat this job as a bus stop to something better, whether that be 1, 5 or 10 years down the road. I only hope others could take a look at their situation (if they are complaining about a job) and just be happy to be employed, I spent time from October 2008 to March 2009 unemployed (moved to a new state without a job for myself).

Positiveness and confidence is your friend.



My biggest suggestion to anyone complaining that retail is not paid enough is to go the unionized construction worker route: Find people who work in the industry you want to work in (be it construction, finance, service etc.) and ask them what they did to get there. Keep on asking as many people as possible until you get there (by following their advice hopefully).

I am not working where I want to by any means, but if I work in this business until I retire I know I can support my family even if my professional dreams are not met. It is my dream to have a family first and foremost, and secondly if my Wife and myself become successful in business that is just a plus. So make your plan and stick to it, and try some positive additude re-adjustments on yourself, potential employers love positiveness (I got into my current field the 1st time around because my boss said' "I liked your positiveness and confidence...)


Now come on you complainers, complain until you get tired of complaining and go do something positive about it. Your move.
 
This has kinda bothered me since I started my office job. I feel like I worked a lot harder in retail, dressed nicer and was responsible for much more overall. In my office job which I've had since May as long as I get my work done I can browse the net, joke around and feel like I'm treated much better.

So the question is why am I getting paid more for less stressful work and working not as hard than I was in retail. It seems kinda off.

What type of office job do you have?

I work at a dental office. I'm able to browse the net and shit, but I do have a lot of work that needs to be done accurately. Most of it is done online and on the phone, so I can be browsing GAF while I check insurance and shit.
 
Been a retail slave for over 15 years, and I want out so badly. Tried to get into a warehouse position with my current employer (more mindless. More time to myself), but would like to try an office job at some point. I need something low stress where I can come home and not worry about "did I do enough today?"
 
I worked as a desk clerk for an old, handicapped attorney at a law office for three years with some other co-workers and attornies. It was my first and best job and payed the most too. Then I worked as a support associate at a big retail clothing store for two years. Unloading the truck was stress-free, but price checking was a mixed bag. While it was easy, the manager was a total bitch and it didn't help that the equipment didn't always work and there was a shortage too. At least the customers were mostly friendly. The last thing that happend before I left was a gay sales associate hit on me.

I've been trying to get back into an office job this year, but no luck so far. Last place I applied to was a psychologist's office for a file clerk position the day before Thanksgiving. I'm a college graduate, but I don't have a clue what I want to do for a career with only some job experience and basic computer skills.
 
Home Office is the best office.
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I work retail, and outside of the holiday season right now, I've really enjoyed it. We don't get much business normally, and my managers like me and treat me well enough compared to most other retail places that I've heard about. Minimum wage in Washington is pretty frickin high (going up to $9 next year). The work is easy for the most part. I think 90% of my problems come from the registers not working (I think they were last updated in 1998...) and working with agitated people who give me crap because I work in retail. Rarely do I make a mistake anymore.

That being said, I would rather take a skilled job that pays more like office work. Unfortunately, that's not something I can really do, so I'm going to go the military route to get some experience in my field.
 
Ever since a young age, I promised myself I wouldn't get a cubicle job. Hopefully I can fulfill this which of mine.

I work retail right now (movie theatre), it's not too bad. Movie theatres are really lax, undemanding jobs.
 
Worked retail for 8 years, office for 5, then I got canned and am currently back at retail.

I'll take boring and overpaid over hectic and underpaid anyday. Living paycheck to paycheck is the worst. Really missing that 9-5 schedule, too, as peak hours for retail neatly overlap with when everyone else is off. Very rare to be able to get together with friends and family now, which utterly sucks.
 
This has kinda bothered me since I started my office job. I feel like I worked a lot harder in retail, dressed nicer and was responsible for much more overall. In my office job which I've had since May as long as I get my work done I can browse the net, joke around and feel like I'm treated much better.

So the question is why am I getting paid more for less stressful work and working not as hard than I was in retail. It seems kinda off.

You probably felt you worked harder because you were on your feet 8 hours a day, and you dressed nicer because you had a persistent audience.

If you feel like you're under-worked at your office job, then ask for more projects, or projects that are more challenging. People in office settings tend to only take care of what is set in front of them, and never really look beyond that. With that said, you'll also need to be more proactive to get promoted. Otherwise, you're just doing the status quo and there is no reason to regard you as a superior worker, even if you complete tasks quicker than your co-workers.

Same as in the office.

While there are a lot of meneal office jobs that anyone can do, there are many that take more attention and skill. Most large companies will put up with many shitty employees as the others will pick up the pieces if something isn't done properly. However, in a small office like the one I work in, if you're not pulling your weight, or smart enough to figure things out on your own once in a while, you're not worth employing.
 
Its strange, i worked retail for a while and kind of enjoyed it. I was moving around the whole time i was there then when i went home i forgot all about it. A few months later i got an office job and honestly, it felt like my soul was being slowly crushed. I mean, this doesn't apply to all office jobs because this specific one was with a shit company full of old people, but i kept sitting there in my booth thinking 'holy shit i have to get out'

Now i'm back in a retail position and yes, the pay is pretty poo, but never am i staring at the clock or going on the internet to pass time. It helps the store is in a nice area so in the year i have been there i have had like 3-4 customers who were kind of dicks.


Office still wins because of the pay though. I was rolling in it during my office job.
 
Worked retail for 8 years, office for 5, then I got canned and am currently back at retail.

I'll take boring and overpaid over hectic and underpaid anyday. Living paycheck to paycheck is the worst. Really missing that 9-5 schedule, too, as peak hours for retail neatly overlap with when everyone else is off. Very rare to be able to get together with friends and family now, which utterly sucks.

I feel ya buddy. I've done retail for almost 10 years, I'm unemployed for the moment (sucks). I would kill for an office job that is 9-5, weekends off and a cubicle for my introverted self. The hectic work schedule at my retail job made me lose touch with alot of my friends and my free time. Worked 50+ every week minus the 1 week paid vacation (lol). And living paycheck to paycheck was the worst part. I always work myself to death and go beyond the duty when shit has to get done but nobody in the higher up gives a shit which made my job more demeaning. I wish I knew where to start in order to get a office job. Been contemplating joining the Air Force as a last resort but if I can get my foot in somewhere, I'd be jumping in joy. I'm 26 and worked at a supermarket for 10 years and worked as a mechanic for about 8 months.
 
Now come on you complainers, complain until you get tired of complaining and go do something positive about it. Your move.

Dude, I went in every day grinning like a motherfucker. I was nice to everyone and the only person who didn't get involved in drama (except for the time at the office when my boss tried to take away the day off I had scheduled weeks in advance to help my best friend set her life up away from her abusive father--that made me mad). I was always the happiest person in the office or at the store. I was almost always a coworker favorite, and a customer favorite. And I was dying inside.

My move, as I explained, was moving to special education, which I love. I am not sure why you consider this to make me a complainer. It's nice that you've had jobs where a positive attitude is enough to keep you happy, but not everyone can adapt to every environment. I spent years of my life believing that I could will myself into feeling better about my job, but it turned out I was doing jobs that I wasn't suited to. Finding the right work isn't just a matter of attitude.

Come on down to my new middle school moderate autism classroom and I'll show you what I mean.
 
LOL PLEASE.

Food Service Industry easily trumps retail or office as the worst. Unless you've slaved a 12 hour shift in front of a 500 degree grill with no breaks and covered in raw meat while being yelled at by people wanting their food orders, stfu. I've worked all three, office is best.
 
My first office experience was hell on earth (cold caller for a fastener manufacturer).

My current office position is amazing. Just get my work done and that's it.
 
Food service is the worse. Especially if you work in the kitchen:

Long hours.
Shit pay with no tips.
Standing in front of a hot ass grill for 8 hours straight with minimal breaks--breaks LOL.

Retail is fucking paradise compared to food service.

@Paddy said it best.
 
As a college dropout I look at office jobs as some sort of lofty unreachable goal that will lead to fortune and fame.
 
Food service is the worse. Especially if you work in the kitchen:

Long hours.
Shit pay with no tips.
Standing in front of a hot ass grill for 8 hours straight with minimal breaks--breaks LOL.

Retail is fucking paradise compared to food service.

@Paddy said it best.

Yep, agree to this. I worked at Steak N Shake back in High School and was the grill man most of my time there. I worked the grill during the dayshift on a saturday and was getting ready to get off when my replacement called off. I had to work his shift. 13 hours strait grilling burgers with no actual break.

Still not the worst service/retail position though.
 
i work in food service, in a kitchen, and i make decent tips. pretty sure alot (most?) of restaurants work this way, with back of the house kids also getting a share of the tips.
 
The key to any work is to connect with the people you work with. The other details don't matter. The low-end office jobs can seem cushy enough, but once you climb the ladder you get a ton of responsibility and endless headaches. Even if you don't enjoy the work, people will help you get through it.
 
I cut meat at Publix. I love working here. Good money while going to school, and the people I work with all seem to like it here. Bjs wholesale sucked. Walmart was ok cause all the women youd meet daily. Ingles was horrible.
 
Not everyone can work in retail. I can easily work in office (I'm an engineer) but asking me do retail is like asking me to do the impossible. I can't work with facing clowns all day long.
 
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