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Retiring from "Hardcore" gaming - Advice?

While you're in this state, sell everything game related except your primary console and pc. I got to the same point as you a few years ago and sold about $700 worth of my collection. When I got back into gaming, I used that money towards a new sound system and htpc and only regret not selling my collection sooner.

Sell, sell, sell!
 
Buy games that have great lasting value. I saved a ton of money by ignoring game releases and playing Picross DS. Once I got tired of it [played through it 4x, mind you], I bought a few of those hardcore games on the cheap. I could afford all of them for less than the price of one full-priced game!
 
Not that being a hardcore gamer means fuck all, but you don't have to spend thousands of dollars a year to remain fairly hardcore. Hell, half the reason I consider myself a core gamer is because I keep up on what games are coming, what's already out, the latest news, podcasts, game sites, forums, etc.

And for Christ's sake, stop buying games that just end up in a pile somewhere. That's your problem right there.
 
Wow, more than 5 games in your 'backlog' is insanity. How do you people live like this. Every 6 months I sell/trade in all the games I've beaten and buy all the year old games that have dropped below 25 or so, used. And then I repeat.

This applies to consoles of course. There's been fuckin' nothing on PC for the last 2 months, which is my main gaming system.

Man, am I glad my PS3 broke, now I only have to think about one console.
 
-play short fun games
-avoid open world games with fetch quests, collect-a-thons and chores
-more PSN /XBLA
-don't go for Trophies/Achievements
-limit multilayer competitive online play since this one can by time consuming when you get into em
 
I don't quite "get" games anymore.

I started out the year with Assassin's Creed II, then I got a sweet computer and the first game I played a lot (30 hrs) was Borderlands, after that I got Left 4 Dead 1 & 2 in a pack, and have played about 23hrs of that, then I got SSF4 and have played that probably 20 hours.

That's it, and now that it's nice outside I'll probably be doing other stuff. I might get Red Dead Redemption, but probably not for a bit because I'm still loving SSF4 and if I'm happy with that why get something else? The only other games I'm real interested in are Peace Walker and The Last Guardian. I was kind of a sucker and bought games I haven't played on Steam, but they were $5 and I decided to not do that anymore.

This year I'm actually giving gaming one last go. I'm not really going to put restrictions on myself. If I want a game in the sense that I'll really play it, I'll buy it. Thing is, I just haven't wanted to play games very much. I don't think I'm going to get another console after PS3. By then I'll have my studio finished and I'll work on music and learning german to spend my free time.
 
Sell off the games you know you aren't going to play. Chances are if you have old games you will find people who will pay you like $50 or more for them.

Then you could only just buy the games you are really sure you want, or utilize a rental service.

I should take my own advice, I mean look: http://www.backloggery.com/midnightscott

I don't like Street Fighter IV or Assassin's Creed they were gifts. I should sell them or something. I even got AC2 for Christmas and I put it on Goozex and got Red Steel 2 instead.

I just bought Fragile on Ebay(tried to buy it a month ago on Ebay but got screwed and filed a claim...) and Bayonetta from the PS3 sale. (I haven't beaten any of my PS3 games and have 2 unopened.

After I finish Fragile I'll start Bayonetta I guess. Hopefully I can beat them before Galaxy 2 comes out!

It's always the sales that get me. I also just ordered Galaxy 2 & Trauma Team on Amazon with free shipping (which will net me $30 credit towards my next game purchase). Sin & Punishment 2 will be the next game.

I'll probably end up buying 3D Dot Game Heroes in July since I have a $10 off coupon for Best Buy as well. (I hope I can still find it on store shelves by then, Atlus titles disappear a lot!)
 
Daigoro said:
terrible advice.

DONT do this.

edit: i misread what i bolded somewhat.

if you bought games solely because of hype, you're dumb. (im assuming you did not do this. who the fuck does this?).

but selling off your collection so you only have 10 games left is a bad idea. expecially if youve been collecting for 30 years. unless you never ever play any of your old systems and games (i do). if you dont ever plan on playing them again, then maybe consider selling.

but selling off your whole collection is a rash and bad decision.

Well, he has enough games to keep him busy for the next two or three years, so getting rid of 90% of them (especially if those games were bought for the wrong reasons and playing them is going to be a chore) is the best idea.

if you bought games solely because of hype, you're dumb. (im assuming you did not do this. who the fuck does this?).

You'd be surprised. Viral marketing has proven itself to work very good in gaming sites and forums, where people can be easily misled or tricked into buying some random crap just because "OMG it's teh best gaem evar" which would be in the "meh" area if it was distributed by a small publisher with very little budget on marketing. You wouldn't see so many copies of so-called "must have" games in the preowned bin the week after release if this wasn't true.
 
MattyGrovesOrMe said:
I've put in my time. I've been gaming for thirty years. I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars on the hobby. I've even made a career out of studying digital game culture.

But I can't keep up anymore. My backlog of unplayed games is now over 120 deep (across 5 systems and PC). Compound this with a wishlist of 30+ games to buy upon release. But I can only squeeze in about two hours of gaming a day, if I'm lucky, these days. Not to mention that additional life responsibilities keeps shrinking my leisure budget (stupid mortgage).

So I think I'm going to let the 'continue countdown' hit zero this time, save my quarters, holster my light guns, hang up my dualshocks, and ride Yoshi off into the sunset... yeah. It's time for retirement.

Of course, I can't leave things behind completely (I've still got pixels in my blood, like most here). But I need to dial back.

Anyone here ever successfully "retire" from being a hardcore player? Offer any strategies?

I'm thinking of limiting myself to 5-6 new game purchases a year, and not getting into franchises I'm not already invested in. I might unsubscribe from some of the mags I currently get, and limit the number of gaming sites I read (thus avoiding some of the hype for shiny new games I don't really need and have generally been underwhelming lately... though nothing hypes like GAF hypes, so maybe I'm screwed on that point).

Any other advice would be appreciated.

NOTE: Using "hardcore" here to define heavy investment in the medium, it doesn't (and shouldn't) describe any particular kind of game or game genre.

You're only leaving the realm of the hardcore spender...
 
Im not in the same boat as TC in terms of wanting to retire; I couldnt ever see myself giving up on video games, just like I cannot see myself giving up on books and film.

However, I have a gigantic backlog of about 158 unfinished games, the biggest collection of which is on the Virtual Console.

My problem is not that I built a big backlog over a long period of time, but quite the reverse. I only started what TC would define has hardcore gaming this generation, which means I have more than enough catching up to do.

Impulse buys, ebay and the stacks of old titles that can be found for cheap has really not helped me, and I have a collector's mindset. That said, the backlogathon thread here has really started to help me out with the shorter games :P

TC, I wouldnt "retire" as such, and if you have the same mindset as me, I certainly wouldnt sell anything off. I would, however, start renting games (as that has saved me so much money recently), and pick your battles. Chances are there are games in your backlog that are short. Also, dont punish yourself. If you find a game sucks, dont still try to plough through it.

Finally, try to find something to motivate yourself. I have my own counter of beaten games which I set up after I realised how many games I had that were close to completion, but left unfinished.

That backlogathon thread I mentioned is also good, for the competition of it :D
 
SatelliteOfLove said:
You're only leaving the realm of the hardcore spender...
This sounds about right.

I'd go with only buying AAA games and games that really interest you and will take your attention for a solid week. That means you have to play the games you buy. When you buy them.

Steam deals are the exception.
 
Slavik81 said:
No, GAF is where you go if you want to retire from hardcore gaming. GAFers have huge backlogs because they spend more time browsing GAF than actually playing games.
It's funny cuz it's true.
 
I, sadly, share the hoarder mentality with some of you. I have a backlog of probably 200 games. I know I'll never finish them, but I also cannot bring myself to get rid of them, either.

I also suffer from the Day 1 affliction as well. Just got 3D Dot Heroes today, have Alan Wake, RDR, SMG 2 and ModNation Racers already in the pipe with release day delivery from Amazon, and I'll probably figure out a way to justify either Blur or Split/Second before the month ends as well. I also feel compelled to pick up FF13, Nier, Yakuza 3 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 somewhere along the line as I somehow managed to miss them upon release....

Having OCD and Adult Attention Deficit Disorder, combined with a job with that provides a very nice paycheck...NOT an ideal combination if you like gaming....
 
I've learned that you just don't buy games because you can. Buy what you're excited for and will play very often. That one game will beat out those potential five others you'll just let sit and collect dust. If anything, Gamefly the iffy games you're not sure about. Saves ya money. As for time? Well. That's up to you. 2 hours a day? That's enough for me right now however I'm not playing an MMO.
 
I find it hard to be a hardcore consumer. Alot of the games I find myself playing lately (WipEout HD, Team Fortress 2, StarCraft 2 Beta) require alot of time for practice and investment. I really can't see myself as a consumer anytime soon (except for StarCraft 2, that is). And with Civ5 on the way I doubt I'll need anything more this year.
 
Dorfdad said:
Holy shit man did I posses your body and post this?? Im 100% in the same boat as you. I Have 3 Consoles, 2 Handhelds, iPhones, iPads, PC's about 28 games deep in never played but bought day one... The NEw Final Fantasy, Assassins Creed 2, and more sitting there never played.


I'll agree with the sentiments of some here this isnt hardcore its stupid....and op if you gamed through the age of duke, system shock, Oot, M64,....scratch that if you did the majority of your gaming in the 90's early naughties the fuck is your excuse for even wanting that many games from the current crop....you should know better
 
beje said:
Well, he has enough games to keep him busy for the next two or three years, so getting rid of 90% of them (especially if those games were bought for the wrong reasons and playing them is going to be a chore) is the best idea.
Never do it in one big go. Work up to it. Sell a chunk at a time.
 
Seems to me you dont really know what kind of games you like. You just buy whatever people/GAF/magazines say needs to be bought.

Just decide what games YOU really like and stick with them. You may like to play gameboy tetris more than anything in the world, but because you feel that you have to keep up with the virtual Joneses then you buy Crysis 2 and dont even play it.

Make up you mind! do you watch every new movie that come out? every documentary, every chick flick, every horror sequel? I hope not, because it would mean you have more money than common sense lol.
 
MattyGrovesOrMe said:
I've put in my time. I've been gaming for thirty years. I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars on the hobby. I've even made a career out of studying digital game culture.

I'm interested in the latter. Show me a link or something towards your work, please. :)
(through PM if necessary)
 
I've done it, successfully, and I'm really enjoying it :-)

I started playing in the late 70s, so I've also had a good 30 years at it, and have a family, mortgage, etc now. The best advice I can give you is play the games from the developers you really like, not those games you think you should play.

On average, I was playing games for a couple hours daily and around 8 hours at weekends, and was a film editor at work. Some people might be able to do this for a lifetime, but in my case I came to the conclusion videogaming really isn't good for me (and neither are computers). Not that gaming can't be fun, it can be a great, but I think it's a bit like alcohol, amazing times can be had on occasions but to do it too much is bad, which is like anything really.

I ended up sticking with EAD, by far and away the best developer ever imo, and some other teams. I only played a handful of titles last year and loved it. I didn't need to play all the stuff I thought I should play because it's supposed to be good or from a franchise where I've only really liked one entry and have developed some kind of nonsense attachment. Because, I know what I like. I've played hundreds, if not thousands, of games over the years. I suggest you trust this instinct.

I'm enjoying playing videogames as much as I ever have. A few games a year still makes for a fun hobby.


EDIT-
And I still look forward to titles, SMG2 looks spectacular! :D
 
Well, Im pretty sure after this month, Im sticking to two games for the rest of the year, at least day 1 games.... and that'll be Madden 2011 and Halo Reach. Now, I was sitting on a pile of trade credit, and Gamestop has that 25 off code and free shipping, so this month is like a grand finale (5 games this month and I really want Modnation Racers and Lost Planet 2, but thats ridiculous).

Being married working a 9-5, hitting the gym, debt from paying for our own wedding and honeymoon, bills, etc., time and money are simply not there. That mixed in with I fully agree, its stupid to buy games and NOT PLAY THEM. I mean, I bought Yakuza 3 at launch, and it hasn't even met the PS3. Im still excited to play it. I mean, why buy one more game, if I already have a fresh, new game that I havent touched yet.

My log is sizable, not 120 like some people here, but 40 games is fair (and still a absolutely ridiculous amount.)

So for the rest of the year, Im going to play what I have, pick up Halo Reach and Madden, and if I do any other purchasing, it'll be through a Gamefly or Amazon sale getting a big game for less than $20.
 
The key is not to read gaming impressions anymore. It's easy to read people's reactions to a game you might like and then see it on sale for 20-30 dollars and buy it because it's a "great value". But it's not a value, because there's a chance you will never play it if your backlog is so big.


The best way to be a gamer in you mid-late 30's is to completely ignore the current generation of games and fully play all the great games left in the previous generation. As the current generation begins to wind down, pick up a console for 100-150 bucks and then go wild on all their AAA games that will be 20 dollars (or less). All of those AAA games will have a wealth of opinions and ratings on them to really weed out the ones you MUST play. You save a ton of money and you will not get sucked in by all the early hype of most games.
 
Xbox Live Arcade has saved me a toooooon of money. The quality of games coming onto that service are really quite good, and many of them lend themselves to max replayability.

It is truly embarrassing the amount of hours I've put into Tecmo Bowl Throwback over the last couple weeks. I've been playing it with my 6 year old, and he loves it. Personally, I have spent DAYS worth of time on the XBLA Magic the Gathering.

Balance is really the key. It sounds like you spend too much time gaming, actually. Go cancel all your preorders, and see if you miss the releases as they tick by. Now is a good time to do it, because really, any $60 game that comes out this month is going to drop like a rock in price.
 
derder said:
While you're in this state, sell everything game related except your primary console and pc. I got to the same point as you a few years ago and sold about $700 worth of my collection. When I got back into gaming, I used that money towards a new sound system and htpc and only regret not selling my collection sooner.

Sell, sell, sell!
Well I'm only semi-retired from gaming, which is where I intend to remain, but this was very useful. Probably the most useful, a Wii, 360, and PC plus all the games I had bought were simply too much to deal with.

Otherwise, Gamefly is also really useful in cutting down on backlogs. Just not buying games really helps, though admittedly I'm helped by simply not having the money to buy many games this year unlike prior years. I wouldn't recommend doing it that way. It also helps that the gaming industry is passing me by so few games interest me anymore. All told I've purchased 6 games so far this year and maybe have a backlog of 4 games with 3 being played at the moment.
 
To the OP:

I am in your exact same position. Upon the release of the 360/PS3, I found that I didn't have the time to care anymore. I currently play for about 2 hours a day, not counting random time on my Gameboy Micro.

I decided to focus on just a few systems. I got rid of all my consoles except my PSone and Wii. I have about 45 PSone games and 10 Wii games.

On the portable front, I have a DS and Gameboy Micro. A few weeks ago, I made the decision to cull the DS out of my life. I have enjoyed a few games on it (NSMB, Laytons) but I look at the 20 games I have sitting on my shelf, and I don't feel the need to play any of them. The DS isn't as portable as I would like, so off it goes.

I am keeping the Micro and ~20 games, since it definitely fills a need.

So I am left with a PSone, Wii, and GBA. They will probably provide enough gaming entertainment to last me the rest of my life.

As for new game purchases, I buy about two a year. Obviously, this doesn't count the random PSone or GBA game I snag from Ebay.

I can't believe the rate that people appear to be buying new games. Even when I was at my gaming peak 10 years ago, I didn't churn through games as fast as people seem to these days. Maybe games required more devotion back then or something.
 
This back log stuff... wow.

I only get a different game after I've beaten or "finished" the current one I'm on. At most I'll have one game I'm playing and one waiting to play.

That means a lot of games I wanted to get I eventually skip because new games come out I want more and I lose interest.
 
I'm dying of boredom reading some posts here.

For the OP, fuck the backlog, buy what you feel excited for and fuck the backlog, again. Really, those game are yours, you have all the life for playing them, if they are going to make your hobby miserable, you are missing the point of having a collection.

Just be more cautious of what and when you buy it.
 
Wormdundee said:
This applies to consoles of course. There's been fuckin' nothing on PC for the last 2 months, which is my main gaming system.

I seriously lol'd when I read "there's been nothing for the last 2 months". Wow. It's been a long time since I could complain about there being not enough game releases. Probably back when I sold my PS1 because I got tired of waiting for Final Fantasy VII.
 
Foxtastical said:
It's really not that hard to treat video games like movies, music, books and whatever other type of media you like.

Really.

This.

Occasionally, I'll get stuck on a game for a few days, but usually it's bite-size - a few hours of gameplay with one game on one day, a few hours of gameplay with another game the next day.

There's no reason you can't balance out your gaming habits unless you have to play through one full game before hitting the next or you're playing a game that's time-sensitive like WOW or Animal Crossing.
 
What worked for me was only reading magazines en websites that are very critical and cynical (Edge, Eurogamer, NeoGAF). I then restricted myself to only gaming on 2 systems (360 and PS3, sold the Wii). I bought a Mac and forgot PC gaming and stopped playing handhelds. I still have a DS but only use it on vacation.

Don’t buy DLC as an impulse! Wait a day or two. If you still want it by then, it will be there. Also reduce your backlog. Make a list of game you want to play and game you feel like you have to play. Sell these games.

Finally, only buy one game a month, and alternate between new games and backlog. That way you’re still in touch with the newest games but also are reducing your backlog. If you’re still playing a game you enjoy, don’t buy a new game! And If you don’t buy new games on release you can get them a lot cheaper.
 
MattyGrovesOrMe said:
Anyone here ever successfully "retire" from being a hardcore player? Offer any strategies?
- Limit yourself to your favorite platform, ignore the rest.
- Plan your purchases ahead. Make a realistic time schedule based on estimated and available playtime.
- Before pressing that purchase button, think of all those sealed boxes still waiting. Limit your queue list to just one game. It will reduce the stress to finish your game as soon as possible, making them more enjoyable.
- Don't buy games just because you found them at bargain bin price. Remember, time is your bottleneck, not money. It doesn't matter how great the game is. If you don't have the time to play it, it's just money thrown away.
 
Anyone here ever successfully "retire" from being a hardcore player? Offer any strategies?

I didn't even try. I really loved video games all my life, especially in the mid-late 90's I was obsessed. Had to know about every game, play everything, know what everyone on here thought about it, got all riled up about what I loved and hated.

The following events caused me to substantially lose interest in gaming:

- Mid 2000: Sega AND SNK going though major changes. I was fanatical about both the Dreamcast and NGPC. When both systems were gutted that year (Especially with SNK as whole being completely screwed over by Aruze, I lost a ton of enthusiasm.

- Tenchu 2 sucking: Yeah one game, but I was OBSESSED with the original.

- Late 2000: DDR. For a while I though it was stupid and gay, but then I realized this was fun. Something I was getting good at and feeling accomplishment from. Losing a lot of weight from. Making friends at the arcade while playing. Within weeks, all I cared about was going out to play DDR, or at least practicing at home. Other forms of gaming were still fun, but not nearly as life enriching.

- 2001(?): JSRF. Really a great game on its own merits, but at that time I wanted something like JGR, another games I was obsessed with. Like Tenchu, this left a further bad taste in my mouth.

- 2001: Somewhat unimpressed with the post Dreamcast generation: I got a PS2 when FFX came out. Really great game, but felt rushed compared to the earlier classics in the series. Got a Gamecube too. Wave Race: BS was really solid, I was obsessed with Pikmin and played it for months, but where was Mario?

- 2002(?): Mario Sunshine. The death blow. Lost my faith in Nintendo. They still could put out some other great series like Advance Wars and Pikmin, but how could they screw up Mario. Gave up really caring about the new generation of console gaming after that.

- 2003: Started working. Still loved DDR. Would rather screw around on the internet/exercise than play games.

- 2005: Getting sick of DDR. Started getting consistent with going to the gym instead.

- 2006: New Super Mario Brothers: Ho-hum. Solid game, but didn't blow my mind like I was expecting.

- 2006: Was completely obsessed with Okami and Katamari (Which I finally got around too) but was working a ton of OT during this time and made gym a priority over games. Dabbled in Kanji a little bit before playing Okami. The experience of that game made me obsessed with learning kanji, which I was doing when I wasn't at work or at the gym.

- 2007: Mario Galaxy. Nintendo finally redeems themselves but I was still very busy.

- 2008, 2009: Blah, I wasn't even paying attention.


To sum it, entering adulthood combined with some disappointments in the world of gaming caused me to drift away. Games are still awesome, I'm anticipating Okamiden and Mario Galaxy 2, but there's even more awesome things in life like work (Not always awesome, but you gotta do it.), gym, family/friends, continuing to study Japanese (Playing Mother 2 right now), girls, music, sleep, etc.

Only so much time to devote to each area. Gaming's good, but lower on the list.
 
MattyGrovesOrMe said:
Also, out of curiosity, anyone make ever make the switch to handheld only gaming?
Ugh, no. Handhelds hardly have any action, adventure, fighting, racing, or fps games worth playing (basing this off the DS). Average rpgs and puzzle games only aren't my idea of gaming.
 
Play, and finish, your current games and only buy a few new (6 or so) select titles per year.

If you are still obsessed with buying/owning games, hit up Ebay for the ones you want to buy, after you've bought your 6 game limit.
 
Mikazuki said:
To sum it, entering adulthood combined with some disappointments in the world of gaming caused me to drift away. Games are still awesome, I'm anticipating Okamiden and Mario Galaxy 2, but there's even more awesome things in life like work (Not always awesome, but you gotta do it.), gym, family/friends, continuing to study Japanese (Playing Mother 2 right now), girls, music, sleep, etc.

Yes, because everybody knows is a choice between games and anything else.

For fuck's sake.
 
get an iPhone or iPod Touch.

play for 5 minutes. get your quick fix and then put it down. and you won't go broke paying between 1 and 5 dollars for games.

and the pocketability means you can take it with you anywhere.
 
Acosta said:
Yes, because everybody knows is a choice between games and anything else.

For fuck's sake.

I stated that I still enjoy gaming but it gets little time due to other things in my life taking a higher priority. I did not say "You can not do x, x, x, x, x, while playing games."

I EVEN SAID I'm playing Mother 2 right now. :lol
 
I used to buy every single big release, day one. I have totally changed that now. The last new game I bought was Battlefield Bad Company 2. I will be getting Red Dead Redemption next week, but honestly, I might not get another new game until NCAA 11 comes out. In comparison to how I used to buy games, I am not buying crap these days. Now I might pick up an old game used as am impulse buy to try it out. But we are talking 20 bucks max for those games.

Two things have changed my buying habits. First, I have other more important expenses than I used to have. So there isn't a ton of extra money to burn on games. Secondly, I really don't have the patience or time to get into many games at once. I can play about 3 games in a time period, that is the max. Any more than that and I feel as I am only collecting games, not playing them.
 
Mikazuki said:
I stated that I still enjoy gaming but it gets little time due to other things in my life taking a higher priority. I did not say "You can not do x, x, x, x, x, while playing games."

I EVEN SAID I'm playing Mother 2 right now. :lol

Oh, you are playing one game, I'm surprised you can put aside those awesome real life activities you mention to waste time playing one game, but I guess if you are doing it for learning Japanese it´s not a complete waste, right?
 
I just randomly play iphone stuff now, and on my arcade cabinets. I got my 4 online rentals, and they are untouched for 3 weeks now; I'm just going to cancel, pretty much.

I used to be big into import titles, mech games, and super obscure titles, but now when I get home, If i wanna play something real quick, i just powerup the arcade cabs and play for 30 minutes, and i'm 'full' for a week. I havent turned out my 360 in weeks, and my ps3 is my bluray player.

my wii has not been turned on in years.
 
I bought a ps3 a year ago. I just have six ratail games and some psn games and im totally fine with that. I just dont need more games. I still have to finish uncharted a second time and with mag i have most of my gaming time full. How the got 120 plus game on the backlog is beyond me.

pd: Im still have to finish BKO.
 
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