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[mescalineeyes]

Not going to happen.

True edge-to-edge won't either, for usability reasons (and it would also probably be a pain in the ass to manufacture)

oh god, thank you. It's like people don't think before they post. Edge to edge would be horrible. Not gonna happen. Apple rumors so long before an announcement set off a myriad of red flags.

Also, can we please stop calling this the iPhone 5? It's the 6th iPhone.

 

[upandaway]

iPad 2012 is 264 ppi. I think we need to revise our Retina estimates downward to about that ppi. After all, Retina is what Apple says it is, right?

iPads aren't held at the distance phones are held -> different standards

Retina's description gives it some kind of standard minimum, but it can be whatever Apple says it is pretty much

 

[tino]

But Tobar will kill himself, so I really doubt this news heh.

 

[amrihua]

iPad 2012 is 264 ppi. I think we need to revise our Retina estimates downward to about that ppi. After all, Retina is what Apple says it is, right?

It depends on how far from your eyes your holding it. The iPad will be held at a further distance thus still Retina.

 

[jamesinclair]

Odd choice.

The only thing the iPhone has going for it these days is that its the smallest phone available.

 

[Pachael]

oh god, thank you. It's like people don't think before they post. Edge to edge would be horrible. Not gonna happen. Apple rumors so long before an announcement set off a myriad of red flags.

Also, can we please stop calling this the iPhone 5? It's the 6th iPhone.

They'll just call it the new iPhone anyway.

Anyway, another resolution change would be interesting if they wanted to keep the same ppi with the larger screen (that's quite huge though).

 

[Slayer-33]

Should go for 4"

 

[zoukka]

The only thing the iPhone has going for it these days is that its the smallest phone available.

There is zero sense and facts in this post.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Odd choice.

The only thing the iPhone has going for it these days is that its the smallest phone available.

the only thing?

so...not better apps, better store, better 3rd party accessories, better equipment/car integration, or better battery life?

ok.

Should go for 4"

4"-4.3" was my sweet spot. guess we'll all see soon enough.

I don't think they'll do a Q2 release, although I don't doubt they'll launch a phone with a huge screen, as it will allow them to keep the smaller 3.5" model in the lineup. IPhone has matured enough to have 2 models in the lineup.

very good point. after all, you can still buy a new 3GS at the moment. time for the iPhone 4 to replace the 3GS as the bottom model (making the "retina" resolution the standard), keep the 4S around and add the larger version.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

I don't think they'll do a Q2 release, although I don't doubt they'll launch a phone with a huge screen, as it will allow them to keep the smaller 3.5" model in the lineup. IPhone has matured enough to have 2 models in the lineup.

 

[SmokyDave]

I want the design to stay the same as the i4 / i4S forever

 

[Slayer-33]

the only thing?

so...not better apps, better store, better 3rd party accessories, better equipment/car integration, or better battery life?

ok.



4"-4.3" was my sweet spot. guess we'll all see soon enough.

4 inches would be an astonishingly well thought out size.

They should go for that IMO.

 

[jamesinclair]

the only thing?

so...not better apps, better store, better 3rd party accessories, better equipment/car integration, or better battery life?

ok.
.

Better 3rd party accessories made me laugh, I thought you were serious for a second there. Should have caught it at better apps and store though.


But yes, better battery is a plus, but that goes with the screen size, now doesnt it? My phone from 4 years ago has better battery life than anything on the market these days.


I know my sister said she loves her iPhone because all the androids are so big. And yeah, my galaxy s2 is pretty massive. No way in hell shed pick up the rumored iphone.

Giving up your one and only market advantage is a pretty dumb move on apples fault, but every giant makes the same mistake. It's like Sony 101.

 

[mescalineeyes]

You guys do realize that most apps will need to be re-designed to actually make use of the screen, basically bloating file sizes even further, not to mention the platform fragmentation this will bring about.

Just be clear, I am a huge guy, I want a bigger iPhone, I just doubt highly that it is going to happen for a while.

 

[zoukka]

I want the design to stay the same as the i4 / i4S forever

Just... Don't update for a few years? That's an eternity in electronics anyways

 

[Shearie]

Anyone think they'll ever change the aspect ratio to 16:9 or closer to it? I'm not saying if that would be better or not, just curious what people think.

 

[XMonkey]

Just be clear, I am a huge guy, I want a bigger iPhone, I just doubt highly that it is going to happen for a while.

We disagree then I do think Apple will bump it up to ~4" for the next phone, but certainly not 4.6" like this rumor suggests.

Anyone think they'll ever change the aspect ratio to 16:9 or closer to it? I'm not saying if that would be better or not, just curious what people think.

Very much doubt it, mostly because of the apps and I also think Apple feels 16:9 is a bit too 'skinny' in terms of usability and striking a sweet spot between landscape/portrait in a phone.

 

[criesofthepast]

I'm not upgrading from 4S it it's bigger than 4 inches and doesn't have the same flat back. No convex shit again.

 

[mescalineeyes]

I'm not upgrading from 4S it it's bigger than 4 inches and doesn't have the same flat back. No convex shit again.

Yeah man, I fucking hate it when my phone is nice to hold in my hand. Better looks over ergonomics any day.

I am being serious.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Anyone think they'll ever change the aspect ratio to 16:9 or closer to it? I'm not saying if that would be better or not, just curious what people think.

Nope. Any size increase will scale with current iPhone dimensions.

 

[SmokyDave]

Just... Don't update for a few years? That's an eternity in electronics anyways

I perhaps won't, failing any major leap in specs. I haven't upgraded to the 4S yet as my 4 still feels snappy and looks as good as the day I bought it. I might drop behind a year until it's clear that they aren't abandoning the flat glass back and sexy lil' screen.

I don't really know why I'm grumbling.

 

[ChackanKun]

Jesus, 4.6" is too damn big! Either they maintain the 3.5" or at least a 4", but nothing bigger than that, please!

 

[Fusebox]

My suit pants are crying already, they already have to deal with my monster schlong, a 4.6" phone will ruin them.

 

[Piggus]

Hopefully this is true. I love my iPhone but I hate the screen size after using my friend's Galaxy SII. I'm sorry, but it's just way too small. They'll find a way to make the the phone easy to use and sexy looking. C'mon, this is Apple we're talking about here. 4.6 inches is big, but it's an edge to edge display the actual phone won't be that much bigger.

 

[mescalineeyes]

I hope everyone clamoring for an edge-to-edge display will burn in a very special hell where all phones have edge-to-edge displays.

 

[criesofthepast]

Yeah man, I fucking hate it when my phone is nice to hold in my hand. Better looks over ergonomics any day.

I am being serious.

Holding my 4S is pretty comfortable. Got no probs with it. It's 6AM so I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not.

~_~

 

[mescalineeyes]

Holding my 4S is pretty comfortable. Got no probs with it. It's 6AM so I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not.

~_~

All I am saying is I enjoy good looks in a phone more than ergonomy. I'd take the 4(S)'s design over some rounded bezel any day of the week.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

Apple aren't idiots, they'll make it right.

I would rather a bigger iphone than a smaller iPad. iPhone is too small as it is.

And it'll be edge to edge screen with smaller sections on the top and bottom, not like this

 

[freenudemacusers]

Agreed. At a stretch I can fit a Kindle (with cover), an iPhone and a dumbphone in one pocket.

I want to see a picture of this

 

[Cipherr]

Oh I'm sure people will 'learn' to love it. And they know that, would be a good move. Edge to edge displays, not to mention on screen keys can make larger screens fit on smaller footprints easily. Nothing wrong with a bigger screen.

 

[Wubby]

4.6 is good for me! I actually want something 5" but I'd settle for 4.6. I got the 4s but I was disappointed they didn't increase the size.

 

[criesofthepast]

All I am saying is I enjoy good looks in a phone more than ergonomy. I'd take the 4(S)'s design over some rounded bezel any day of the week.

Okay agreed. But I personally don't find the 3G any easier to hold than the 4S. They can both be pretty slippery mother fudgers. Having said that...I've never dropped any iPhone I've owned. I'm pro. Apple have hit it with the design. Sexiest looking phone on the market is 4/4S.

 

[Shearie]

I don't know what I want. On one hand, a bigger screen is always nicer to look at but I love the size of the 4/4S and as someone who uses my 4S one handed most of the time, I would miss being able to thumb any part of the screen comfortably. If they increase the screen size, 3.7 inch Retina screen with the awesome color saturation of the new iPad would be the best fit for me.

 

[kfpkiller]

Finally, iphone's screen is way to small.
Although I'd prefer 4"-4.3"

 

[Shearie]

I hope everyone clamoring for an edge-to-edge display will burn in a very special hell where all phones have edge-to-edge displays.

I'm very much with you on this. For usability reasons, it's nice to have sizable neutral areas to hold. I hold the iPhone by the bezel all the time in landscape mode - unless I'm laying down - because it's more comfortable.

 

[giga]

Come on guys, use your noggin.

If they kept the resolution the same at that size, it'd decrease the DPI from 326 PPI to 250. They're not going to do that.

If they chose to increase the resolution, they would do it in factors of 2. That would mean 1920x1280. That's 500 PPI. That's not going to happen for a variety of hardware reasons.

The next iPhone will be 4" at max.

 

[Zeppu]

So many people saying 3.7" is the perfect size and doesn't need change. I wonder if anything could possibly happen to change these people's mind. I remember, back in the day, when phones didn't 'need' multitasking or notifications.

 

[Shearie]

Come on guys, use your noggin.

If they kept the resolution the same at that size, it'd decrease the DPI from 326 PPI to 250. They're not going to do that.

If they chose to increase the resolution, they would do it in factors of 2. That would mean 1920x1280. That's 500 PPI. That's not going to happen for a variety of hardware reasons.

The next iPhone will be 4" at max.

I would think they would give the resolution a slight bump in accordance to whatever bigger screen size they use. There is no need really to go with much higher PPIs than the retina on iPhone but they also shouldn't downgrade it either by using the same resolution.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Anecdotally speaking I've had 3 different people ask me about "that new big android phone with the pen" at work this week. Two of which were girls, and one was a dude who said "its crazy its like an ipad and a phone."

I love my Note. However, it does get some odd/envious looks from people. My pal came round the other night, saw it and said "oh cool, what's that?" I replied, "it's my new phone." To which he replied in horror "that's a phone?!?"

 

[Cipherr]

Come on guys, use your noggin.

If they kept the resolution the same at that size, it'd decrease the DPI from 326 PPI to 250. They're not going to do that.

If they chose to increase the resolution, they would do it in factors of 2. That would mean 1920x1280. That's 500 PPI. That's not going to happen for a variety of hardware reasons.

The next iPhone will be 4" at max.

The only thing that keeps me on the fence, is that the jump has to be made at some point. Increasing screen size to 4" at the cost of PPI by keeping the same resolution doesnt seem like a move they would make after the iPad3, nor does staying with the exact same size screen and resolution for another year.

I would think they would give the resolution a slight bump in accordance to whatever bigger screen size they use.

This is not how things work for iDevices.

There is no need really to go with much higher PPIs than the retina on iPhone

There is a good long ways to go before increasing PPI on smartphones becomes unnoticeable in all circumstances and ceases to become a benefit. A 400+ PPI phone would look fantastic.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Larger iPhones would cannibalize iPad sales. Somewhat.

 

[giga]

I would think they would give the resolution a slight bump in accordance to whatever bigger screen size they use. There is no need really to go with much higher PPIs than the retina on iPhone but they also shouldn't downgrade either by using the same resolution.

Yes there is. Apple scales in factors of two. They're not going to assign some arbitrary scale like 1.5 or 1.8. That would blur pixels since they're not on the exact grid. It would be like assigning 1 pixel to every 1 pixel and a half on this new display. That would look atrocious and they know this.

The only thing that keeps me on the fence, is that the jump has to be made at some point. Increasing screen size to 4" at the cost of PPI by keeping the same resolution doesnt seem like a move they would make after the iPad3, nor does staying with the exact same size screen and resolution for another year.

The jump to 4" won't decrease PPI that much, though it would make it fall under 300 PPI, which Steve Jobs proclaimed was the minimum needed for phones. 3.7-3.8" seems plausible.

250 PPI for a phone is not happening, no matter what some South Korean paper says.

 

[cws]

I wont upgrade to an iPhone 5 if its bigger than 4".

 

[big_z]

sounds legit considering last year case makers were making iphone 5 cases for a larger device only for apple to announce the stop gap that is the 4S.

 

[VanMardigan]

I think 4" is the perfect size for me. I'm on a 4.3" and while I love the real estate, there are occasional usability issues. I definitely won't go back to 3.5" so I'll never again own an iPhone if Apple stays at that size.

 

[mescalineeyes]

I wont upgrade to an iPhone 5 if its bigger than 4".

The iPhone 5 is the same size as the iPhone 4.

 

[Xun]

Please no.

I think the 4/4S are the perfect size for a phone, whereas I personally find the Galaxy far too big.

The Galaxy and some other Android phones seem cumbersome to me.

 

[LM4sure]

LOL, Steve Jobs said the iphone was the perfect size and no one wanted a huge phone (ie android phone). Now that he's dead everything is going to hell!! hahahah

My friend had a first generation iphone and he was finally thinking of getting a new phone. He wanted to get the samsung galaxy nexus but he went to the store and tried it out and said it was way too big. iphone owners must have small hands

 

[Myke Greywolf]

And yeah, I think you should definitely buy new pants for your new big-screen phone, because then you can browse the web a lot more comfortably. :3

Coming soon from Apple: iPants. One size fits all, no hem adjustment permitted.

 

[LCfiner]

bogus rumor. 4.6" is ridiculous and is too huge to carry around comfortably.

maybe... maybe Apple will increase screen size to 4". but that's about the max I see them enlarging it, as that size won't necessarily bloat the external dimensions too much if they shrink the bezel around the screen